Canada-Honduras postgame

[marktci]

Back in Toronto and feeling a little less despondent.

First, as many have said, thanks to all those involved in setting yesterday up, Grizzly and Daniel in particular. A special thanks for getting the Metro tickets for everyone.

The March, as many have said, was incredible. I think the confrontation with the rent-a-cops actually became a galvanizing moment for the Voyageurs. Once on the Metro, I ended up hanging back a bit, in a car toward the back of the train and was explaining our presence to many on the train.

Section 114 was amazing. And the first half, especially the Serioux goal was among the most incredible moments I have ever experienced. The ball bulged the net literally no more than ten feet from my face. 114 became a mass of hugging, jumping, high-fiving, screaming humanity.

My voice is pretty shot today. But well worth it. With these past two games, it sorta feels like the Voyageurs (along with the cooperation of the supporters groups of the other professional teams) have really become a force. The one section of red out-cheered, out-chanted, and out-sang the entire stadium of blue and white during the entire first half, really up to the second Honduran goal. We will only continue to get stronger and more coordinated. And, at the very least, we will eliminate one possible excuse.

I have to figure out how I'm going to convince my boss I need to be in Edmonton in October.

(By the way, as long as we're looking for people who should be fired, let's add the BMO promotions person who greenlighted Honduran blue and white thundersticks as a giveaway for this game. Real smart.)

[Winnipeg Fury]

quote:Originally posted by elricko

Why, oh why does nobody ( I haven't read all threads) give credit to the Honduran team,who were a class , or two, above Canada,with their passing, technical ability, holding up play, holding the ball,etc.

In Honduras, ALL residents are soccer crazy, they live and die for the game, the kids all play from the earliest age , and their ability shines way above the poor quality of Canada. The fans always know their team, are always supportive, and if there was more money, the country would become a quite the mini-powerhouse.

I wish fans here would stop saying this is the best Canada team ever , --it's NOT--does no-one remember the incredible Alex Bunbury and Randy Samuel, two players who would saunter into the current team, and many others such as Colin Miller, Craig Forrest, Frank Yallop, Lyndon Hooper, John Catliffe, and others I have not mentioned. Pick your best ever team, and few from the current squad would, or should be selected, with only JDG an obvious consideration, and maybe Dero, plus Radz of 10 years ago.

You are deceiving yourselves if you think Canada has a good team, Sven's squad will give Canada a lesson on Wednesday.

While I agree with with you to a point (Bunbury was our greatest striker) Canada has improved vastly over the years. The problem is, so has the rest of the federation, with the possible exception of El Salvador.

[DeeVeeSss]

Hi guys I just want to say after lurking this site for a while I finally decided to post something.

I first want to thank all the Voyageurs for organizing the Montreal Event. Yes we were small in numbers but at least we were together and somewhat organized.

I myself consider myself a sports fanatic. Basketball, Football, Baseball, Gridiron. You name the sport I'll have a favourite team and live and die with it for the most part.

I have never been a big Canadian National Team supporter but in the last couple of years I have been watching them closely. I must say I can't believe how this loss effected me.

Me the casual supporter I could only imagine how the V Hardcore felt. My drive home to Toronto felt like I was going to Vancouver. So painful and so dissapointing.

It wasn't entirely that we lost but how the night went in total.

For one Canada consisted of 2% of the audience and didn't feel like a home game in the least.

When leaving BMO for the Jamaica/Canada game I at least felt Canadian pride that we finally "gave it" for our boys but Montreal was such the opposite.

I know all these comments have been shared by others and I may sound like a broken record but for once I wanna be a part of the solution

Where to start? Who the hell knows maybe having more positive posts from hear on in could be a good start.

[jpg75]

Just got home and still feel horrible about this, the game was ours for the taking and we handed it to them. There's no excuse for coming out in the second half and giving up a goal that quickly! It means we came out unprepared to compete and either Mitchell didn't drill home his message or the players didn't listen.

Also, check these poll results from over on tsn.ca:

Can Canada still qualify for the 2010 World Cup?

Yes - 23%

No - 31%

They never had a chance to qualify in the first place - 47%

On top of this, we were just over at my g/f's mother's place having dinner and told the family that Canada lost to Honduras. My g/f's daughter laughed and said "haha, losers!. Throw in the Canadian-Honduran fans being loud assholes after the game and i am one really irritated Canadian at this moment. Last night i was filled with self-doubt, contemplating how i've suckered myself into pouring so much energy into cheering for a chronically underachiving soccer nation. But after seeing the lack of patriotism of others in this country it's our god-damn duty to suck it up and cheer them on, cuz no one else is going to.

[DeeVeeSss]

quote:Originally posted by jpg75

Just got home and still feel horrible about this, the game was ours for the taking and we handed it to them. There's no excuse for coming out in the second half and giving up a goal that quickly! It means we came out unprepared to compete and either Mitchell didn't drill home his message or the players didn't listen.

Also, check these poll results from over on tsn.ca:

Can Canada still qualify for the 2010 World Cup?

Yes - 23%

No - 31%

They never had a chance to qualify in the first place - 47%

On top of this, we were just over at my g/f's mother's place having dinner and told the family that Canada lost to Honduras. My g/f's daughter laughed and said "haha, losers!. Throw in the Canadian-Honduran fans being loud assholes after the game and i am one really irritated Canadian at this moment. Last night i was filled with self-doubt, contemplating how i've suckered myself into pouring so much energy into cheering for a chronically underachiving soccer nation. But after seeing the lack of patriotism of others in this country it's our god-damn duty to suck it up and cheer them on, cuz no one else is going to.

Bang on!!!!

I was disgusted with how the Hondurans behind has were laughing at me. I'm a first generation Canadian and some of the Honduran supporters were 3rd and 4th gen ... Heck some are from South America just wanting to watch some football.

I'm so disgusted with them. Tommorrow morning most of them will be heading to work getting paid in Candian bucks and having a life because of CANADA. I hope they remember that next time they cash their check.

I'm so pissed off

[JamboAl]

I'm finally able to "put pen to paper" after what happened yesterday. The game itself was a massive disappointment; I had such high hopes going into both the Jamaica and Honduras games that we could make it to the Hex (we still might but I'm not optimistic). People are questioning Mitchell's tactics, include me in that; I was flabbergasted when Friend didn't start. The hondurans played well, good first touch, and they took their 2 goals expertly (oh yeah, and the diving part too was 1st class). We need to seriously question the CSA's choice of manager. If the CSA is financially challenged, bring in Stephen Hart. He did a great job at the gold Cup and is technically and tactically very strong.

As for the support: that's was really disheartening. 24 hours have allowed me to give some sober 2nd thoughts. The Hondurans were everywhere! If I wasn't in 114, I wouldn't know I was in Canada. Am I ticked off there were so many? Damned right! Do I blame the Hondurans for being everywhere? No, we gave them that opportunity and they took it. The CSA, Admission, the Impact, whoever allowed them to buy up all those tickets are to blame. Where were all the soccer moms and casual Impact fans and the montreal public? I guess the Als-Argos game today must mean more than a WC qualifier. Makes me sick! As a country, we are so "provincial".

Finally: a big thanks to Grizzly, Daniel, Rudi and all the others who organized us in Mtl and also to those involved in Toronto a few weeks ago. Inspite of being really depressed, I'm glad we have people out there who are passionate about Canadian soccer whether they belong to the Vs, the TFC, Impact, or Whitecaps supporters groups. One day, we'll make it and it'll feel bloody good! And best of all, we won't be bandwagon jumpers! Keep the faith!

[youllneverwalkalone]

^That's the thing. The manager sucks, the players underachieved, and the results are the same or worse than the past, but there's no question the supporters are improving! The Vs have accomplished so much in the last 4 years -with help from Ultras and RPB. I just hope these results don't have too much of a negative impact of the momentum which is clearly building.

EDIT: And f-cuk the Hondurans, you all saw Suazo, they have no class. Full stop.

[JamboAl]

If we don't qualify for the WC/Hex, I hope the Hondurans don't either...classless!

[socmad]

the result was fair....we were outplayed and outsmarted by the hondurans but if we cannot even beat the hondurans, then we simply do not deserve to go into the next round, simple....

as far as blame is concerned, both the coach and players have to take responsibility..... mitchell is one of the old boys from the lenarduzzi clan of the nasl days.... they were all **** players with minimal exposure on the world scene of soccer.... he just isn't a "worldly" coach, not too tactical or knowledgeable

don't get me wrong, the players are to blame too....the most useless player IMO which no one has mentioned is Hastings....what does he bring to the game?...nothing!!!!.... he is hopeless technically, can't pass, no speed , very amateurish especially the way he was played by suazo on the second goal....then we have hume...hume was crap...this boy has no technical ability and can adapt only to the kick and run 3rd tier english game, that's it....can't hold onto the ball worth a s--t...do not know what the big fuss is with deRo either...he IMO is crap too, can't beat anyone with a little ability,.... the guy was invisible all night...can't dribble worth a crap, if he was so good, what is he doing in houston?, would be in the EPL!!!....stalteri reminds me of bob lenarduzzi the way he plays, ...completely uncomplicated, no ability whatsoever, can't dribble, shoot , pass, paceless, no wonder spurs want to unload him.....bernier is a very average hard working player that should not be a starter, keep him as a sub when we need to defend a 3-0 lead....the rest of the starting 11 IMO can play a lttle and should make up the nucleus of the national team for the next few years

serioux - good, hard defender with a little ability

hutch - very good technical and physical abilities

deguz - excellent technical and physical abilities

friend - main asset is height with good technical abilty

gerba - good physical presence up front

radz - getting on but has the technical ability second only to deguz

as far as the goalies are concerned, lars looked nervous against the hondurans, and i have seen sutton choke a few times so onstad is the only one left....if we had forrest in net, we would have won both games....a good goalie is a must to build any good team around and we just don't have that

so mitchell is to blame by picking his roster including his starting 11 but so are the players.... good players (de guzman, hutch) can adapt but the bottom line is that canada do not have enough of these good players

[grizzlys brother]

Thanks to everyone in 114 for keeping the Red and White Proud. Extra special thanks to the guy that tossed the Honduran to the pitch. Yes Hondurans CAN FLY!!!

[SportingFC]

quote:Originally posted by grizzlys brother

Thanks to everyone in 114 for keeping the Red and White Proud. Extra special thanks to the guy that tossed the Honduran to the pitch. Yes Hondurans CAN FLY!!!

Ya, I saw that.. That came out of no where..

[massimo]

quote:Originally posted by jpg75

On top of this, we were just over at my g/f's mother's place having dinner and told the family that Canada lost to Honduras. My g/f's daughter laughed and said "haha, losers!. Throw in the Canadian-Honduran fans being loud assholes after the game and i am one really irritated Canadian at this moment. Last night i was filled with self-doubt, contemplating how i've suckered myself into pouring so much energy into cheering for a chronically underachiving soccer nation. But after seeing the lack of patriotism of others in this country it's our god-damn duty to suck it up and cheer them on, cuz no one else is going to.

My friend I totally agree with you on that, people who will only cheer on Canada when they become a 'soccer nation' are a bunch of posers. SO you are right even 2-1 down and at the end of the game I was still chanting loud for my country win or lose it doesn't matter when you are a real fan. Good on you!

[Saviola7]

Really bad defensive errors on the goals. Part of me thinks that McKenna should be starting ahead of Hastings, and that he would get that back line in shape. Consider that McKenna and Stalteri are in similar club situations, but for some reason Stalteri is an automatic starter and McKenna is not. We should also be ashamed that we lost to a team that was missing a few key players themselves.

Btw, what is our injury/suspension situation?

Bernier - suspended

Imhof - injured?

Issey - injured?

Radz - injured?

[Grizzly]

quote:Originally posted by grizzlys brother

Thanks to everyone in 114 for keeping the Red and White Proud. Extra special thanks to the guy that tossed the Honduran to the pitch. Yes Hondurans CAN FLY!!!

Welcome to the forum. Actually I thought that the incident at the end proved the Hondurans can't fly.