Pootz Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 1-1, before the match I would have said this would have been a disaster. I feel differently now. I know see this as just another stepping stone the lads need to make it to the World Cup. Before the game everyone viewed Jamaica as the weakest team in this group...now that is probably still true at points last night they could not play with us. Drawing away for them will give them a huge lift possibly to even take points off Honduras and Mexico. Yes I know we dropped to possibly vital points at home...but they way the boys played (especially the last 30 or so mins) suggests that we have that extra gear we can turn on when needed, although a goal didn't result but we could have easily had 2-3 in that span (JDG bar, Rad and Friend). In football there are no certainties, there are also no guarantees. Just because Mexico and Honduras should beat Jamaica there is no way to tell how this will all play out. In the end (of this half drunken post) I feel uplifted by the fact that we played well and the support was there, I think the players will be as upset about this result as us and will give that extra push to ensure that we take the points in Montreal. We are at 1 point...were going to need 10 to get through....9 points from 5 matches is doable. We Would have settled for 3 wins at home and a draw in one of the road games...well the only difference now is we need to win one match away...I think we will do so Allez les Rouge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Right now I am just thinking. We need to beat take 4 Points off Honduras, thus leaving them with just 1 off of us. It would help if we beat Jamaica too away. 8 points. I can see us grabbing 1-3 off Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kclee Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I agree, we have a team that can get a result away from home. When Mexico, Honduras and Jamaica are forced to go forward and open up the play we have the players to take advantage of the space. I really feel confident about the away games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinhaya Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I agree with the points noted above. My question is as follows: What is the morale of the players? The comments from JDG were not very positive. We need them to shake this off. Can they? DM doesn't come across as very motivational. He seems rather aloof to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedved9 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I hope you guys are right. I still Canada can get out of this group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squizz1402635577 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by sinhaya I agree with the points noted above. My question is as follows: What is the morale of the players? The comments from JDG were not very positive. We need them to shake this off. Can they? DM doesn't come across as very motivational. He seems rather aloof to me... I was also a little concerned with JDG's post-match interview, even though I agreed with what he said. I think the players were all probably a little upset that they couldn't produce a victory for the raucous home crowd; who wouldn't be? But these guys are professionals, they have two weeks to move on from it. They'll be fine. A victory in Montreal puts us four points up on Honduras and, assuming a Mexican triumph over the Boyz, puts us three up on Jamaica. So all is not lost. I'm sure the players know that, and will use it as extra motivation next time out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pootz Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 I think the morale of the players isn't something to be worried about, here is why: its good that they were unhappy with the draw...a team should never be happy with not winning I'm very happy JDG was noticeably off beat in the interview that means he cared. I don't put huge stock into post match interviews the player had just played 90 mins of intense football and hasn't had time to reflect on it yet. I bet to hear the player speak today they would have a fire in them to play Jamaica again right now. One thing I also wanted to say about the match that I forgot in the first post was that Radz looked out of sorts...I think its time DM made a switch there. Also I think its time we start bringing 23 players to the games...18 players in the squad then 5 guys on the bubble (David Edgar types) give them a chance to hang with the squad and build rapport with them so when the time comes they can slot right in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 We need a win in Montreal. It would put us in the top 2 after two games (although 2 at home for us) and we won't go through with less than 4 points at home against Honduras and Jamaica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villus Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Our team is going to be hungry after this game, in soccer this type of game feeds you, you are not happy, you played well but it slipped away, they will be thinking not again not in front of our fans not if each one of us individually have anything to do with it. I hope they bring the mentality that they don't care who is in front of them, Honduras may have their best team ever but not today not this time will we lay down and die! They will think about this game at night, and they will use it to focus towards Honduras, I believe we will show up and Canada may just play the game of their lives. The table is set boys, all that is left is for us to show up and put a dagger in the hearts of Honduras in Montreal. If they can't get up for the game in Montreal after that game vs. Jamaica knowing how big a win will be than I don't they have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Keegan Right now I am just thinking. We need to beat take 4 Points off Honduras, thus leaving them with just 1 off of us. It would help if we beat Jamaica too away. 8 points. I can see us grabbing 1-3 off Mexico. I agree with you. We need 4 points off Honduras. I thought before that we need 7 points at home to have a chance, and that can still happen. Also, it would help a lot if Jamaica and Honduras tie when they play each other. The bottom line for now though is they have to beat Honduras in Montreal or they are pretty much out of it. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueviking Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 i dont understand people slagging radz...he was responsible for the goal...made some great sidelines runs and passes...if anything i would say atiba has been completely invisible in the past few games for canada...i can hardly even remember him touching the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 well in football you have a certain when we talk about qualifying and you know Champions League or Copa LIbertadores de America .. it says " You lose it at home , but you will win it away", that means that if u get a bad result at home ( a lose ) u may get in trouble, but u may have more chances of winning things when u get results on the road ( away) Liverpool with Benitez, gets the results away, in CL and then they play without any worries at home. If canada beats Honduraa will take a huge step in getting it, even though as i think jamaica gets a draw vs mexico next game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pootz Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 Radz had a few moments in the match but compared to Hume who seemed to electrify the way we played I think its time for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 yes i saw the game, even though i think radzinski played well yesterday, but he is losing his speed, but the turf did not help him. vs honduras i would play very agressive with forwards that can be very mobile, with runs friend should remain in the starting to get him confident, i would play a midfield of de guzman bernier hutchinson and imhoff with de rosario and friend up front maybe a diamond midfield with imhoff as dm bernier on the right huchinson on the left and de guzman as the traditional old number 10, to link up with forwards...as well i may put serioux w/ kuklowski edgar as left back or brennan and stalteri at the back.....stalteri sometimes reminds me a bit of willy sagnol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueviking Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 i think radz was affected most by the turf...he looked least comfortable taking bouncing passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaub Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Biggest thing for us is Jamaica/Honduras not taking more than 3 points against one another. If Honduras sweeps Jamaica, then they already have six points and we'll need to take 4 from them and some from Mexico. If they split either 3-3 or 2-2 and Mexico does their job, then we control our destiny. If Honduras has 7-8 points going into their last game at home against Mexico's B team then we're in deep trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Radz was not that bad, but this was a physical game and the turf was causing him some troubles. He should start vs. Honduras as the Hondurans are not as large and as physical and Radz's skill will be needed. Sub in Hume at 60m. Points: We will have to be audacioius on the road, plain and simple. And we'll need some breaks and a little luck, too. Nothing new: this is international football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Other than deGuzman Radz is still our best footballer. Not our best athlete (though he probably was in his younger days) but our best footballer. No one else has reached the elite level he has and his touch, composure and decision making are needed this cycle. He might not be as fast as some other players but he will weight a perfect header to set up a goal. He will be in the right places to pounce on rebounds. He will make that last second inch perfect cutting pass for a striker to run on to. Reality check, we need this man in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_AM_CANADIAN Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Our advantage in quality was very obvious, we just didn't turn it on until it was too late. And while I love Radzinski, he should have put that chance away late on, off the rebound from DeRo's volley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante79 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 its though but doable, but am still very frustrated at the fact that we lost two points at home because of Onstad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 quote:Originally posted by The Beaver Radz was not that bad, but this was a physical game and the turf was causing him some troubles. He should start vs. Honduras as the Hondurans are not as large and as physical and Radz's skill will be needed. Sub in Hume at 60m. Yes, 60-65 minutes would be about it. And if we need to shore up the defensive end of things with a calmer presence, then put on Bernier. I liked Radz's well headed back pass to the Guz on the first goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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