Javier Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 i saw the game live here in Bs. As, and This is a very tough group, a group of death. You can not prepare a game ot this, with only 36 hours . Canada played well., the pitch is not for players like hume , radz , de rosario and the guzman....the fans were giants, 1- GET NSALIWA to play r back., 2- canada looked naive in the middle, 3- maybe hirschfeld shoul be at goal next game 4-If mexico loses , canada needs to beat honduras at home, to get in top seat.. Mexico will not make a win from Kingston, ....a 5- Team played well, i did not like kuklowski, and maybe imhoff should have played..... MITCHELL NEEDS TO CALL AT LEAST 20 PLAYERS FOR EACH GAME.- canada will get stronger after this, and i think that with 11 points will make it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Hey Javier... who's this guy: Maynor FIGUEROA and how important is he to the Honduran team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Hey Javier... who's this guy: Maynor FIGUEROA and how important is he to the Honduran team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 He's a left back from Wigan Athletic who is rated highly by Honduran fans, so that's good news for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Lurker Hey Javier... who's this guy: Maynor FIGUEROA and how important is he to the Honduran team? It means we can probably expect Ivan Guerrero in his place, with 3 Honduran-based defenders playing alongside him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbronies Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Javier 2- canada looked naive in the middle, You hit it right on the nose with this one. We were weak in the mid. In the second half, I saw JDG and DeRo end up dropping so far back because they were not getting the ball up front. We are seriously lacking in a "Zidane" type player in the mid. Someone who can control the game and help move the ball through the ranks and to the forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by jabbronies You hit it right on the nose with this one. We were weak in the mid. In the second half, I saw JDG and DeRo end up dropping so far back because they were not getting the ball up front. We are seriously lacking in a "Zidane" type player in the mid. Someone who can control the game and help move the ball through the ranks and to the forwards. Like I've said in another thread I felt that the size of the field didn't help our midfield. BMO is very small compare to most fields I've seen (Azteca for example). It seems that it's easier for the opposition to put pressure on you in the middle and I thought Jamaica was pretty effective in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 well u have it in de guzman THAT IS WHY IMHOFF or NSALIWA ARE A MUST , because they can deliver the ball clen to de rosario o de guzman , or hutchinson... canada was lacking of a tactic player in the middle bernier is more creative , and does not feel it ...but he can replace de guzman or hutchinson in an advance position MY TEAM FOR NEXT STALTERI SERIOUX KUKLOWSKI BRENNAN IMHOFF HUTCHINSON DE GUZMAN DE ROSARIO HUME FRIEND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbronies Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Sorry, I didn't mean Zindane in the way of an attacking mid...I meant someone who can control the game better. De Guzman IMO is more an attacking mid. Someone who controls the forward attack. We need someone to control the whole game better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Is the field at BMO really as small as people contend? I've been to games in Toronto, Montreal, Chicago, Columbus and New York all in the past year, and the pitch at BMO doesn't look any smaller than any of those. The field is 75x115, which is bigger than FIFA minimum standards (and bigger than the playing surface at Commonwealth). It was big enough for a World Cup final. I think the main camera angle at BMO makes the field look smaller than it actually is. I've never heard anyone say that it is a small field until very recently on this board (and usually by people who have never been to the stadium). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbronies Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 City of Manchester Stadium, 116 x 77 yards Old Trafford, 116 x 76 yards Emirates Stadium, 114 x 74 yards Stamford Bridge, 110 x 75 yards St. James’s Park, 110 x 73 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 The pitch at BMO isn't that small, but it does look like it has degraded over the last two years. I never really believed we had the best midfield in CONCACAF, but I don't think we're s-hite now either. Deguzman was often spectacular and Hutch did what he needed to. Serioux also helped out a lot out if the back too. Jamaica often had 10 men behind the ball and were looking to slow the match down at all times. Even then the midfield did what they had to. It wasn't the midfield's that Onstad surrendered that goal. Ricketts was also sensational in the last 15 minutes. In retrospect, I might have played McKenna cause we could have used another arial threat given that most our chance we coming down the flanks/set-pieces. And bringing off Friend and Bernier was insane. Friend needs to play 90. He would have found a goal. Radz was the guy to come off for Humey. That's all we needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Rudi Is the field at BMO really as small as people contend? I've been to games in Toronto, Montreal, Chicago, Columbus and New York all in the past year, and the pitch at BMO doesn't look any smaller than any of those. The field is 75x115, which is bigger than FIFA minimum standards (and bigger than the playing surface at Commonwealth). It was big enough for a World Cup final. I think the main camera angle at BMO makes the field look smaller than it actually is. I've never heard anyone say that it is a small field until very recently on this board (and usually by people who have never been to the stadium). For the record, I've been to BMO (Chile vs Canada in 2007). I just checked some other stadiums and they're about the same size as BMO. So I guess it's me who got that feeling from the TV yesterday with the camera angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddym Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Loyola seems to be insisting that the BMO pitch is smaller than Azteca --much smaller, in fact. Obviously the stadium itself is enormous and the camera perspectives are different but the pitches are the same size: 105 m x 68 m (meters, not yards). Did you read that, Loyola? Please stop posting that the playing field in Toronto is "much smaller". Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by teddym Loyola seems to be insisting that the BMO pitch is smaller than Azteca --much smaller, in fact. Obviously the stadium itself is enormous and the camera perspectives are different but the pitches are the same size: 105 m x 68 m (meters, not yards). Did you read that, Loyola? Please stop posting that the playing field in Toronto is "much smaller". Thanks. Hey, did you get read my last post. Like I've said my bad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 The issue isn't the size of the field. The problem is the surface. Where on grass Radz would have had little trouble tracking down a long ball into the left corner--second half--at BMO he needed another five yards because of how high the bloody ball bounces on that turf. Getting the ball under control, one of the most important things in football, is made more difficult on field turf. For that reason, you'd think that a field made of this sort of artificial surface should indeed be larger to compensate. Or, even better, cash in Edu cash for grass. Go a head and called it Edu Field for all I care. Just stop smoking the grass and starting sowing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettermirror Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by jabbronies You hit it right on the nose with this one. We were weak in the mid. In the second half, I saw JDG and DeRo end up dropping so far back because they were not getting the ball up front. We are seriously lacking in a "Zidane" type player in the mid. Someone who can control the game and help move the ball through the ranks and to the forwards. Kind of a nonsensical statement - every team is lacking a Zidane. We are simply lacking an offensive X factor just at the moment...but de guz and de ro seem to combine for a nice one as a pair. Hutchinson needs to get more involved offensively though to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by loyola For the record, I've been to BMO (Chile vs Canada in 2007). Yeah I knew that. That's why I added the "usually" part. [] I've actually read the same thing written by one or two other people on this board though. I'm not sure where anyone would get the impression that the showpiece stadium of a FIFA U-20 World Cup would have an undersized pitch, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Rudi Yeah I knew that. That's why I added the "usually" part. [] I've actually read the same thing written by one or two other people on this board though. I'm not sure where anyone would get the impression that the showpiece stadium of a FIFA U-20 World Cup would have an undersized pitch, though. Well, as one of the guilty poster here I would say that I was under the impression that BMO was the smallest possible size accepted by FIFA and that others stadiums were a bit larger. Then add to that the TV impression I had yesterday, I started believing the field could be bigger (well it could be but there's no point since Azteca and other Euro stadiums are the same size as BMO...). [8)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by bettermirror Kind of a nonsensical statement - every team is lacking a Zidane. We are simply lacking an offensive X factor just at the moment...but de guz and de ro seem to combine for a nice one as a pair. Hutchinson needs to get more involved offensively though to say the least. The midfield had a tough time breaking down a well organized Jamaican side in the first half, and ironically it was our decision to play decent long balls over the top that helped open things up. Our goal was created that way, as were a number of other chances. The biggest problem with Friend is that he more or less stays in the centre of the pitch, which gives our midfielders and fullbacks few options going forward, and which makes it damned easy for the opposing team to shut him down, in essence killing our attack. When Gerba came on, he was making diagonals into corners, which made it more difficult for the Jammas to defend. And remember, the DeGuz post came from a Gerba pass after he'd made one of these very good runs. We've got to start Gerba next game. I feel we need 5 in the midfield, so we need to make better use of our lone striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddym Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by loyola Hey, did you get read my last post. Like I've said my bad.... Sorry, I didn't see it in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Javier, kindly take your all caps, your inaccurate analysis, your unrealistic scenarios, and your constant comparisonsm to argentina, and go great yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Scottie Javier, kindly take your all caps, your inaccurate analysis, your unrealistic scenarios, and your constant comparisonsm to argentina, and go great yourself. WTF? Totally unnecessary. [V] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realjamaican Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Kudos to jamaca's B team, they took the canadians from thier normal game for the most part, they shut down de guzman,(a lapse caused the goal) dero and friend. leave me to wonder what would have happened if they had fuller or king starting or even bringing shelton and Hue on earlier in place of williams and burton respectively instead of william and wolfe. Plus if shelton wasnt jet lagged he would have been more effective than burton(i dont kno what simoes see in him), he burned the defence for the few minuites had. Jamaica could have won the match, dont believe simoes gonna be conservative on the return leg. I hate the pitch it was like playing on concrete. if it was grass we would have had a better match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by realjamaican Jamaica could have won the match, dont believe simoes gonna be conservative on the return leg. Perfect. We'll devour you then! (Opening up isn't a good idea, but I'm sure Simoes ain't so foolish to do that against us. Mind you, by the time we play again, Jamaica is going to be desperate for points and won't have any choice.)[^] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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