Trillium Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 From the CSA : vi) JUDICIARY BODIES: Two Committees: a) Discipline Committee This Committee shall be responsible for all matters of discipline referred to it under the jurisdiction of The Association, including, but without limiting the generality of the foregoing, any of the following matters: a) Alleged misconduct on the part of any Association in Membership, District Association, League, combination, Club, Player, Official or Member, that may bring the game of soccer into disrepute; Alleged breach of any of the Rules, Regulations or By-Laws of the Association, by any of the above-named parties. Chair: Appointed by the Board of Directors Members: Members appointed by the President Terms of Reference: l. To enquire into all allegations of misconduct and to hold hearings when necessary. Do you believe Sinclairs comments brought the gave of Soccer into disrepute ? Yes____________ or No _____________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piltdownman Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Let her actions be judged by the court of public opinion, not a CSA committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccertaxi Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 No and I doubt that anyone on the men's team is losing any sleep over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Well, she can be charge but I doubt she will. If she doesn't issue an apology I would like to see someone charging her or pressuring her into clarifying her thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Mountain out of a molehill IMO. Has political correctness really hit this level? BGD - big greating deal :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 This thread is a waste of bandwidth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 My first and, I dare say last, post in the women's forum: I can't believe Christine scores like 100 goals for her country, makes one questionable comment, and the sausage fest that is the Voyageurs start taking out the knives for her. Unbelievable. No wonder no women post in the women's forum or anywhere else around here. [] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I love how people are trying to make this a gender issue when it clearly isn't one. If Julian De Guzman was using a Helen Stoumbos comment to take a shot at the WNT, I would call JdG dumb for doing so and would ask for apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 quote:No wonder no women post in the women's forum or anywhere else around here. well, I don't want this forum to be 100% "go team go" which is largely what is seen in other Cdn women soccer forums (even to the point of censoring critical posts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 quote:No wonder no women post in the women's forum or anywhere else around here. well, I don't want this forum to be 100% "go team go" which is largely what is seen in other Cdn women soccer forums (even to the point of censoring critical posts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishman Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Just daft - drop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Richard This thread is a waste of bandwidth. Nice to see you make your vote .. what was it by the way.. but seriously Richard you more then most should understand that atheletes sign agreements with the Sport Associations or Unversitys to not bring a negative focus on the team or sport. I think the initial response to Sinclairs comments indeed brought the game into disrepute. If we dont hold the WNT program and its memebers to a consistent standard equal to what would be done to a male player in similar circumstance are we not indeed being Politcally Correct beyond belief ? You have often argued the other side... when you discussed the Hooper situation, so I am just wondering where the consistency is ? In any case I am off the "No Where" team game tonight at BMO hope everyone enjoys the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 ^ I don't disagree about not bringing the game into disrepute but that is hardly what Sinclair did. Her coach may have said to her quietly afterwards that her comments were a bit intemperate but I think she is experienced enough to figure that out for herself. The powers that be will do precisely what some of us with cooler heads here are saying, get over it, she spoke out in the heat of a highly emotionally charged moment. Besides, de Vos' comment was provocative under the circumstances whether you agree with him or not. This is a non-issue blown out of all proportion by the media and WNT detractors. Time to move on and not waste any more bandwidth. I do not take the same stand on every issue regardless of the relevant facts which is what you seem to be implying I ought. I evaluate the facts and draw my own objective conclusions in each instance. You should try doing the same sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Richard ^ I don't disagree about not bringing the game into disrepute but that is hardly what Sinclair did. Her coach may have said to her quietly afterwards that her comments were a bit intemperate but I think she is experienced enough to figure that out for herself. The powers that be will do precisely what some of us with cooler heads here are saying, get over it, she spoke out in the heat of a highly emotionally charged moment. Besides, de Vos' comment was provocative under the circumstances whether you agree with him or not. This is a non-issue blown out of all proportion by the media and WNT detractors. Time to move on and not waste any more bandwidth. I do not take the same stand on every issue regardless of the relevant facts which is what you seem to be implying I ought. I evaluate the facts and draw my own objective conclusions in each instance. You should try doing the same sometimes. I'm sorry but I've read you enough (and some times agreed with you) but you aren't what I would call "an objective poster". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Richard Time to move on and not waste any more bandwidth. With your over 4300 posts you are one of the main users of your so called bandwith. Follow your own advice and move on. Leave the rest of us to discuss matters without your constant double standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 quote:Originally posted by loyola I'm sorry but I've read you enough (and some times agreed with you) but you aren't what I would call "an objective poster". No more opinionated than are you and I never claimed to be an objective poster, just that I draw objective conclusions based on facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 ^Oh Richard, so you are finally admitting your are not an objective poster. You made my day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouversoccerman Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Sure...the sanction for every player who spouts off after a hard loss without thinking should be "charges" from an amateur board. [)] Yeesh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Vancouversoccerman Sure...the sanction for every player who spouts off after a hard loss without thinking should be "charges" from an amateur board. [)] Yeesh... Shake your Whitecaps loving head and answer me this .. if it was so spur of the moment.. how did Sinclair know what was said on the broadcast ? Spur of the moment is your interviewed in at the break in mid game on the pitch as you walk to the change rooms. Or when your sitting on your ass aftering giving it your all. Sinclair lashed out and not because it was heat of the moment she lashed out.. because she parrots the lines she is given. PS how is the campaign for stadium going in Van for the Whitecaps ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouversoccerman Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Not sure how the club I support or the public campaign for the stadium come into this, but I think it's obvious that Christine Sinclair's response was a knee-jerk reaction very similar to your response to me above. It's a lot like Wayne Gretzky's comment calling the New Jersey Devils a "Mickey Mouse" organization in 1984. It didn't look good on him, just as this doesn't look good on Christine Sinclair. He got ripped for it. She's getting ripped for it. Gretzky took his hits, but he didn't get fined or suspended for it. Same should go for Sinclair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Sanctioning Sinclair does nothing positive for Canadian soccer at all. In fact, it would prove only to hurt it. Let it die. Nobody gives a rat's ass what she said aside from a few of us here. c'est fini.[|)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by The Ref ^Oh Richard, so you are finally admitting your are not an objective poster. You made my day! I admitted nothing of the sort, you are inferring to suit yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Vancouversoccerman Not sure how the club I support or the public campaign for the stadium come into this, but I think it's obvious that Christine Sinclair's response was a knee-jerk reaction very similar to your response to me above. It's a lot like Wayne Gretzky's comment calling the New Jersey Devils a "Mickey Mouse" organization in 1984. It didn't look good on him, just as this doesn't look good on Christine Sinclair. He got ripped for it. She's getting ripped for it. Gretzky took his hits, but he didn't get fined or suspended for it. Same should go for Sinclair. Not surprising to observe that most of those who are whining about Sinclair's outburst come from the Charmaine Hooper cheerleader / anti-Pellerud camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Richard Not surprising to observe that most of those who are whining about Sinclair's outburst come from the Charmaine Hooper cheerleader / anti-Pellerud camp. And those supporting come from ? Truth is thier is polarization and two sides agree to disagree, the interesting part is the ones who dont hold your view have no business or personal relationship with the Whitecaps et al, That is where your views in this matter and others are subject to bias Richard..or the appearance of conflict of interest. Its something that plagues soccer in this Country and in Concacaf and on up. Personally I dislike it in Canada, and would hope any right thinking person would also. Seems some of you on the left coast just see conflicts and transparency differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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