red card Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 for the first time in my memory, this show actually discussed "soccer" in a North American context and even Steve Simmons admits he was wrong about TFC. They do make a good point about assuming TFC's success can be transposed to Montreal & Vancouver - especially since they seem to be following the rest of the MLS model of catering to soccer moms while being hostile to supporter groups. Video Clip 1 http://watch.tsn.ca/featured/#clip69775 Video Clip 2 (thumbs down segment on Argos/BMO Field) http://watch.tsn.ca/featured/#clip69773 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 wow, what a bunch of morons: Steve Simmons: I have been the biggest cynic through all of this, I thought Toronto FC would be a bust... Dave Hodge: You're going to tell me why it hasn't been I hope. Steve Simmons: Because of Beckham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaub Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 I watched that this morning and turned it off after the Beckham thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Well, they're not trying to make themselves out to be anything they're not so "bunch of morons" may be harsh. These are guys who're admittedly out of their element. It's been said before and so I'll say it again since it's appropriate (and as the X-Files latest movie came out Friday), soccer in Canada will always be hobbled by the fact most of our sports personalities, on the air and behind the scenes, haven't a clue. You can't pull off a reasonable broadcast or report without having somebody, anybody, scripting or speaking like they know what they're talking about. And with all the internet access to football out there and the herd of soccer dedicated digital channels there's a lot of competition in the market and as TSN and most of the other domestic broadcasters are already waaaay down the football fans viewing list from a broadcaster-with-a budget's point of view until football goes completely main-stream why bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackenzie Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Despite showing the Champion's League games (when not conflicting with Curling) - TSN's soccer coverage has been pretty non-existant. Good to see them discussing soccer development in Canada even if they opinions expressed are a bit jarring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbrad Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Ok I live in Alberta and can count the TFC games I've seen on my two hands.....Beckham is the reason for the TFC success? Give me a break. I credit all you TFC fans. I'm jealous and I tip my hat to all you. If we bring that atmosphere to the MNT WCQ games, you'll see soccer explode across this land. You've managed to get my attention and I'm bringing a non-soccer guy Aug 20....He'll be converted I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud Mouth Soup Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Some of you are also "soccer fools" according to Simmons. "Can't believe the soccer fools were anti-Argo protesting at BMO Field, as if the stadium belonged to them. The stadium was built with taxpayers money. The Argos, having been around forever, are as deserving of occupying that stadium as anyone." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trident Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Built with Canadian taxpayers money, how does that entitle a private, Torontonian, let alone 2, franchises to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john tv Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john tv Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 quote:Originally posted by john tv As I understand it is that the folks at TFC are very unhappy with TSN. I guess we should go after TSN and remind them of our fan numbers and attendance.The old days of show me the attendance and we will report does not fly here and I guess the old bastions of anti soccer groups still reign at TSN. Time for a change.The Soccer Network instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Trident Built with Canadian taxpayers money, how does that entitle a private, Torontonian, let alone 2, franchises to it? better yet, the current tennant ( soccer ) is generating the revenues that is helping to pay it off. One of the reasons why its generating those revenues is because of its sightlines and the fact that its soccer friendly. Can you ensure that that would be still the case in a reconfigured venue for Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 quote:Originally posted by BrennanFan wow, what a bunch of morons: Steve Simmons: I have been the biggest cynic through all of this, I thought Toronto FC would be a bust... Dave Hodge: You're going to tell me why it hasn't been I hope. Steve Simmons: Because of Beckham. That was just after Dave Feschuk told MLS to be careful with expansion because the more people who see MLS will realize that that it is crap soccer. Pretty good tv numbers for the all-star game though - 269,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 So, the Rogers Centre, Olympic Stadium, BC Place and all of the other CFL stadiums were not built with taxpayers dollars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john tv Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 As I told you guys these jerks are coming to realize that soccer not only exist but also will do what they were afraid of,namely bypassing any other sport in popularity in Canada.The Simonses and Mcgowan and you know them all will surrender to the demand and realization that they have to join or else.This is just some of the first steps and I can assure you that the soccer writers will make sure these guys are being left out if they don't conform.This Simmons jerk has never ever given any space to soccer and only very negative bylines that only confirms that he is a die hard soccer hater.In fact I am surprised that the Sun Management allowed him to get away with ignoring soccer. TSN is next and slowly but surely they will have no choice. Wait till we play Jamaica,our roar will be heard in their little cubicles and it will be very painfull to their ears. I really believe that this day will be a huge eye and ear opener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piltdownman Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 It should be noted that with the All-Star game the clueless CBC didn't show the game live across the country. The TV numbers don't mean much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amacpher Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 quote:Originally posted by john tv As I told you guys these jerks are coming to realize that soccer not only exist but also will do what they were afraid of,namely bypassing any other sport in popularity in Canada.The Simonses and Mcgowan and you know them all will surrender to the demand and realization that they have to join or else.This is just some of the first steps and I can assure you that the soccer writers will make sure these guys are being left out if they don't conform.This Simmons jerk has never ever given any space to soccer and only very negative bylines that only confirms that he is a die hard soccer hater.In fact I am surprised that the Sun Management allowed him to get away with ignoring soccer. TSN is next and slowly but surely they will have no choice. Wait till we play Jamaica,our roar will be heard in their little cubicles and it will be very painfull to their ears. I really believe that this day will be a huge eye and ear opener. Oh, John. Not again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john tv Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Hey facts are facts and that funny anti soccer feeling still exist like that crazy feelings against the black people in the States by some.Some desease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibby Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 lol, what a comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 John TV Logic 101 Soccer fans are persecuted Blacks are persecuted Therefore, soccer fans are black [] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 TSN discussing soccer? Sorry, but I find that funny. What do they know about the game? F*** TSN! They should stick with hockey, Canadian football and curling while pleasing western Canadians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 quote:Originally posted by TFC07 TSN discussing soccer? Sorry, but I find that funny. What do they know about the game? F*** TSN! They should stick with hockey, Canadian football and curling while pleasing western Canadians. LOL. there is great deal of irony in that statement. Because when i used to live on Montreal, people ( mostly anglophones and anglophone media) really had it in for TSN because they were so toronto centric. People began to call them the Toronto Skydome network Or The Toronto Sports Network. Other than that, I share your sentiment regarding TSN. When it comes to soccer, they are giving it an even worst treatment than they gave the Expos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 quote:Originally posted by TFC07 TSN discussing soccer? Sorry, but I find that funny. What do they know about the game? F*** TSN! They should stick with hockey, Canadian football and curling while pleasing western Canadians. LOL. there is great deal of irony in that statement. Because when i used to live on Montreal, people ( mostly anglophones and anglophone media) really had it in for TSN because they were so toronto centric. People began to call them the Toronto Skydome network Or The Toronto Sports Network. Other than that, I share your sentiment regarding TSN. When it comes to soccer, they are giving it an even worst treatment than they gave the Expos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 quote:Originally posted by TFC07 TSN discussing soccer? Sorry, but I find that funny. What do they know about the game? F*** TSN! They should stick with hockey, Canadian football and curling while pleasing western Canadians. Brilliant post!! You do realize that we call TSN the 'TORONTO SPORTS NETWORK' out west. Twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I havn't watched TSN or Sportsnet's nightly sports news programs for years. I would rather watch paint dry than have to watch 28 minutes of baseball coverage to watch a 30 second clip of soccer highlights. They lost me and thanks to Fox Sportnet I get all the soccer news I want every night. Bobby rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Why didn't they invite someone with a clue to chime in on this discussion? They call themselves sports broadcasters then actually act embarrassed to know some player names and that Adu was traded. What a joke. Please, young Voyageurs thinking of going to school and looking for careers, get into sports broadcasting and relieve some of these idiots of their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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