ray Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Sorry if this was posted before but Colorado Rapids' defender Ugo Ihemelu is in camp with Canada in Florida. I don't think his name was listed on earlier lists. Perhaps not too surprising that Tam Nsaliwa is not in the camp list. http://www.canadasoccer.com/eng/media/viewArtical.asp?Press_ID=3209 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinhaya Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 According to Wikipedia, he has been capped by the USA. Furthermore, I don't see any connection to Canada. Somebody please enlighten me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 quote:Originally posted by sinhaya According to Wikipedia, he has been capped by the USA. Furthermore, I don't see any connection to Canada. Somebody please enlighten me. At some point in the past Ugo's family immigrated to Canada however I don't think they stayed long. His connection to Canada has been pretty vague. And even the CSA site says that he represented the US in a friendly on Jan. 29th, 2006. So, I'm not really sure what is up with this. As for the inivitees, it seems that Lars, Peters, Jazic and Nsaliwa were left off from the original roster called. Can't say I disagree with this. Nsaliwa and Lars, I assume, are still ineligible/injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Yallop brought in Ihemelu for a camp a few years back. If he is eligible for Canada, he'd be good cover at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray Posted June 10, 2008 Author Share Posted June 10, 2008 Mods might want to merge this thread with the new one on the Florida camp roster. It is my guess that the USA cap for Ihemelu against Norway was unofficial (not a FIFA sanctioned tournament) and therefore he is still not cap-tied to the US. IIRC, "A" international matches only cap-tie an U21 player who has already represented that country in an official (U17, U20, Olympic) tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Not putting it past the CSA, but it would be a pretty major screw up to have him in camp if he wasn't eligible. I think he tried his luck with the USA after Yallop invited him, but he must be coming round to the fact that the USA is a sinking ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 New here but have been reading the boards for probably four years. I think he is a solid defender it might be a website mistake but if its the real thing that is good news. I think he can play right back so there is the cover we have been needing for Stalteri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSamurai Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Here's hoping Lars gets well asap. As much as I like Sutton, I'd rather have Lars in goal. It was good to see Peters play, but it's not his time yet. Anyone got anymore info on Ugo Ihemelu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSamurai Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Keegan New here but have been reading the boards for probably four years. I think he is a solid defender it might be a website mistake but if its the real thing that is good news. I think he can play right back so there is the cover we have been needing for Stalteri. Cool thanks. Was thinking maybe we'd see him play against TFC this weekend, but remembered the qualifiers start this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Well is this an example of the cooperation that Carver was looking for? He's been in camp before and did not overly impress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Ed Well is this an example of the cooperation that Carver was looking for? He's been in camp before and did not overly impress. Ugo? I don't think that's true. Who said that? Yallop? My understanding was that he wanted to play for the US. I think it's a Jack Stewart situation where once it became clear he wasn't going to be part of the their set up, he's come over. We might be his second choice, but I'm not going to complain. I thought he was quite highly regarded in MLS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 http://www.canadian-soccer.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8569 An older thread on Ugo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Well I don't want to f* up Nik's holidays but surely to Christ he would be a suitable backup to Stalteri instead of a guy who clearly has had no interest in playing for us, just playing us to get an invite to the US camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Unless FIFA has changed it rules again, playing an 'A' friendly against Norway in 2006 would cap-tie this Ihemelu guy forever to the US. Don't know why we would have him in camp if that's the case. He would have been past 21 at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack Unless FIFA has changed it rules again, playing an 'A' friendly against Norway in 2006 would cap-tie this Ihemelu guy forever to the US. Don't know why we would have him in camp if that's the case. He would have been past 21 at that time. I love this continued debate every three months or so! So I'll throw in the obligatory: it has to be an official comptetion, friendlies don't count anymore. Re: Ed's comment, I agree Nik should get a shot, but we can't fault Mitchell for expanding the pool of CBs. Especially if the guy is only 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 quote:Originally posted by youllneverwalkalone I love this continued debate every three months or so! So I'll throw in the obligatory: it has to be an official comptetion, friendlies don't count anymore. When did they make this change? Of course they change the rules so often I wouldn't be surprised if friendlies didn't count again. But for awhile I know that friendlies did cap tie you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I'm not sure how it's evolved but I think it's pretty clear they're bringing in this guy to play against VAG, which will cap-tie him to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 quote:Originally posted by youllneverwalkalone I'm not sure how it's evolved but I think it's pretty clear they're bringing in this guy to play against VAG, which will cap-tie him to us. They better be damn sure, because I'd hate to have to forfeit both those games after the fact because we used an ineligible player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray Posted June 10, 2008 Author Share Posted June 10, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack When did they make this change? Of course they change the rules so often I wouldn't be surprised if friendlies didn't count again. But for awhile I know that friendlies did cap tie you. I stand to be corrected but I think friendlies can only cap-tie a player if he is younger than 21 years old and would be eligible to make an application to FIFA to switch countries. For example, if Marcel DeJong had played in the friendly against Costa Rica last year, he would have been cap-tied to Canada (because he had previously represented Canada in a FIFA U20 tournament). Of course, since he is now over 21 he can no longer represent any other country. Again, I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 If you read this thread: http://canadian-soccer.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15807 it looks like FIFA has changed the rule. There was a short period (maybe 2004-2007) where 'A' Friendlies would cap-tie a player. So it appears this new guy is okay (if he is Canadian). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack If you read this thread: http://canadian-soccer.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15807 it looks like FIFA has changed the rule. There was a short period (maybe 2004-2007) where 'A' Friendlies would cap-tie a player. So it appears this new guy is okay (if he is Canadian). Isn't this change only "proposed" though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 quote:Originally posted by El Hombre They better be damn sure, because I'd hate to have to forfeit both those games after the fact because we used an ineligible player. That's a major concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 quote:Originally posted by El Hombre They better be damn sure, because I'd hate to have to forfeit both those games after the fact because we used an ineligible player. That's a major concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 quote:Originally posted by redhat That's a major concern. I'm not too worried. FIFA doesn't recognize the Norway-USA game as a friendly and we already know he holds Canadian citizenship. If it was too happen though the CSA would be FINISHED no ifs ands or buts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 quote:Originally posted by redhat That's a major concern. I'm not too worried. FIFA doesn't recognize the Norway-USA game as a friendly and we already know he holds Canadian citizenship. If it was too happen though the CSA would be FINISHED no ifs ands or buts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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