ray Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I'd like to see the CSL focus on Ontario and Quebec right now - particularly Quebec since they have one lone franchise out there. For the prairies it would seem you really have to have all your ducks in a line. If for instance, you could not find an owner in Saskatchewan, it might make the whole expansion plan unworkable because of the Manitoba-Alberta travel involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 quote:Originally posted by KAS Thank-you Eric and VPjr. Do either of you know if the CSL has any kind of salary cap? If somebody wanted to play big-fish/small-pond and pay several players $1000/game, would that be permitted? I assume that the clubs own the players and not the league, but are the contracts of a permanent enough nature that they really hold the players rights and can command a fee in the transfer market? I asked that question to one of the owners once and he said NO, there's no salary cap in the CSL right now. But he said they're working on a minimum pay in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Luis_Rancagua We need more teams in the province of Quebec. More teams need to be propped up in metropolis such as Hall, the Greater Montreal, Quebec City and it surroundings, etc... As per Western expansion, what about BC??? It would be nice if the CSL could start off a Western conference regional league system between BC, Alberta Saskatchewan and Manitoba...With the winner meeting the Eastern champ in a home and away championship series during the month of October. I'm afraid this plan is doom for failure if BC is excluded from this agenda. BC could easily add 5-6 teams to this league, and make it into a solid 12 team regional league. Any comments, suggestions or feedbacks. What about you Bill Speers (former CPSL Commissioner)??? Luis this hold thread is about the BC expansion, did you read the other posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 quote:Originally posted by ray I'd like to see the CSL focus on Ontario and Quebec right now - particularly Quebec since they have one lone franchise out there. For the prairies it would seem you really have to have all your ducks in a line. If for instance, you could not find an owner in Saskatchewan, it might make the whole expansion plan unworkable because of the Manitoba-Alberta travel involved. The problem with the Quebec expansions is not the lack of interest by clubs or new owners, I was having a conversation with some players after a CSL game and two directors from those clubs joint the spontaneous forum in a parking lot and they explain to us that Montreal Impact holds the rights for the province of Quebec and they don't want any professional clubs in the province other than what they have already which are the Impact and Trois Rivieres and since they pay for those rights, they're making it count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 quote:Originally posted by VPjr Hey Eric...are you going to the Shooters v Astros on Friday night....if so, we should meet up Sorry VPjr friday night is reconciliation night with the misses (so I can go to the games saturday and sunday with no remorse) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Eric The problem with the Quebec expansions is not the lack of interest by clubs or new owners, I was having a conversation with some players after a CSL game and two directors from those clubs joint the spontaneous forum in a parking lot and they explain to us that Montreal Impact holds the rights for the province of Quebec and they don't want any professional clubs in the province other than what they have already which are the Impact and Trois Rivieres and since they pay for those rights, they're making it count. Thanks for that information. I wondered why it was so hard to find new owners in Quebec. However, it means Trois-Rivieres has plenty of long bus rides to away games. From the Ontario teams' point of view, if there is no possibility of expansion into Quebec is it worth having a single franchise there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 ^ Obviously to them it is!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Ray, Quebec is essentially a closed shop. If the CSL wants to expand in Quebec, I suspect they'll need to do some ring kissing to make it happen. What Saputo wants, Saputo gets in Quebec. The Quebec Federation and the Saputos are like peas in a pod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Eric Sorry VPjr friday night is reconciliation night with the misses (so I can go to the games saturday and sunday with no remorse) TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE. I've got TFC on Saturday and then again next Tuesday, sandwiched around coaching on Monday and Wednesday so sneaking out to watch Shooters v. Astros on Friday is not really a wise move. I'm taking my two sons with me to make it possible to stay out of the dog house. Too bad you'll miss it...should be a very good game...some other time perhaps. What game are you watching Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artoo Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I just wanted to say that it would be neat if there was a professional team in Winnipeg. This idea of a co-op team is cool! It would have a more grassroots feel to it as compared to a corporate approach. If anybody knows ways to support the cause please let me know :-). Let's bring back the FURY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Artoo, contact the CSL offices. I'm sure they would like to get contact info for potential season ticket buyers if they do expand to Western Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artoo Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Done that :-))). I emailed Mr. Kaplan himself :-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 good stuff Artoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfan Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Atroo Keep in mind while the csl is a good semi pro league its not a pro league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artoo Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Is there an objective way to determine which league is professional and which is semi pro??? Is there a defining feature? Maybe that not all players are paid or that despite being paid they still need to have day jobs? One idea I had was that maybe a team could be set up in cooperation with the Manitoba Soccer Association. Maybe you could gather an all star team from the Manitoba Major Soccer League. Just an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 what about winnipeg as an expansion entry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfan Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 There really is only 2 pro leagues mls and usl.The csl and about 5 others are semi pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 ^ Yes, in the USA there's only 2 pro leagues .......... in Canada none but the CSL out of those 5 others you mention is the only one trying to become a pro league and above all it's a canadian league. With a nick name like yours "winterfan", you should be looking more to the north not so much to the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artoo Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 I guess it's worth mentioning that a Manitoba team was a part of the league previously. I understand that the Winnipeg Fury (the CSL champ from 1992) was a part of the National Soccer League in 1993. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureStarCSL Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 no one has heared anything on the expansion yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeltfc91 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 It says on wiki that they'll add FC Quebec and Africa Icons in 2009 to make 13 teams. PLus theyre adding a whole new Western division by 2010. It doesn't say how many teams but it says a Western Division so maybe 5-7 teams to make it an 18/20 team league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureStarCSL Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 soo your sayin there not adding the expansion out west till 2010 thought they would have added the western division before adding more ontario and quebec teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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