MLS Montreal Supporters

[lolita]

quote:Originally posted by TFC07

How cute! Nice to see Montreal f ags...I mean fans showing us love. I can't wait for Montreal to join MLS so that we can beat them regularly.

et

quote:Originally posted by the biologist

Hey, there's a trillion years rivalry between MTL and TO and you Rudi & TFC07 and all people in TO are trying to feel us bad about some MTL people posting kinda "I hate TO" posts ? C'mon, put your head out the ground and grow up little dude. There's AT LEAST as many people in TO saying "F*ck you Montreal bastards" and "Just shut up you f*ing lil' french froggies" and all on every & any forum about sports (not to say on all-purpose forums).

So yeah, I feel so ashamed of guys saying "Let's show TO who's boss" and "I f*ing hate Toronto FC</u>", can't imagine how much I do... [}] That's so harsh !

Bonjour Biologiste

Bonjour TFC 07

Hello,

My English language is not very good. If you have no objections, I express in French language.

Attention aux généralisations. Il ne faut pas croire que la grande majorité des supporteurs et des supportrices du club de l'Impact sont des Ultras de Montréal.

Les Ultras de Montréal ne sont qu'une minorité de partisans. Moi même je ne les aime pas. Je les évite tant dans le Stade Saputo (la section 114) qu'à l'extérieur (dans un forum francophone où ils sont très présent). Le fanatisme de quelques uns des Ultras me déplait. Ils ont une pensée monolithique... Ils ont toujours raison et ridiculisent les autres qui pensent différemment d'eux. Je n'aime pas ce genre de fanatisme et ce type de supporteur.

Monsieur Joey Saputo, propriétaire de l'Impact lui aussi n'apprécie pas beaucoup plusieurs des Ultras.

lire

http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/soccer/2007/06/29/001-ultras-vendredi.shtml

Je crois qu'il y a malheureusement un peu partout ce genre de supporteurs dans la plupart des clubs y compris au Toronto Fc. Cela fait partie des excès du sport masculin. Le dénigrement et le racisme (voire même l'intimidation entre Ultras de différents clubs) devrait être bannis du sport masculin. Peut être s'il y avait plus de filles dans les estrades des stades (et sur les terrains de foot) cela calmerait de nombreux monsieurs Ultras. J'ai dit peut être....

La grande majorité des supporteurs de l'Impact sont des familles. C'est à dire des parents (parfois monoparental, parfois des papas divorcés, souvent des familles reconstituées) avec leurs enfants. Je trouve cela très bien. Il y a plusieurs jeunes adolescents aussi. Ils et elles (car il y a des filles aussi) ont des billets gratuits que l'Impact donne aux clubs amateurs de soccer. Cela amene une belle atmosphere de détente dans les gradins.

Plusieurs Ultras de Montréal n'apprécient pas beaucoup l'atmosphere familiale du stade Saputo. Ces monsieurs (car les ultras sont en grande majorité des gars , exception faite d'une ou deux filles..) reprochent aux supporteurs de l'Impact d'être trop tranquilles. Sur ce point, ils ont partiellement raison. Je l'admet. Comme quoi dans la vie , tout n'est pas tout blanc d'un coté et tout noir de l'autre coté.

Et à Toronto, il y a surement des familles, des papas avec leurs enfants qui viennent supporter le Toronto Fc ? Y a t il au BMO Toronto des jeunes adolescents membres de petits clubs amateurs de soccer qui ont obtenu des billets gratuits du Toronto FC ?

Ce serait merveilleux.

L' arrivée de l'Impact de Montréal dans la MLS sera très positive pour l'ensemble du soccer canadien. Mon grand souhait personnel Vancouver Whitecaps et l'Impact de Montréal tous les deux dans la MLS en 2011.

(une suggestion pour le Toronto Fc, mettre sur pied une vrai grande équipe féminine de soccer, pourquoi pas dans la nouvelle ligue WPS. Beaucoup de filles de Montréal appuierons cette équipe féminine de Toronto)

Place à la diversité.

Vive la Tolérance et le respect des autres.

amicalement

[SteveBeau]

quote:Originally posted by lolita

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Bonjour Biologiste

Bonjour TFC 07

Hello,

My English language is not very good. If you have no objections, I express in French language.

Attention aux généralisations. Il ne faut pas croire que la grande majorité des supporteurs et des supportrices du club de l'Impact sont des Ultras de Montréal.

Les Ultras de Montréal ne sont qu'une minorité de partisans. Moi même je ne les aime pas. Je les évite tant dans le Stade Saputo (la section 114) qu'à l'extérieur (dans un forum francophone où ils sont très présent). Le fanatisme de quelques uns des Ultras me déplait. Ils ont une pensée monolithique... Ils ont toujours raison et ridiculisent les autres qui pensent différemment d'eux. Je n'aime pas ce genre de fanatisme et ce type de supporteur.

Monsieur Joey Saputo, propriétaire de l'Impact lui aussi n'apprécie pas beaucoup plusieurs des Ultras.

lire

http://www.radio-canada.ca/sports/soccer/2007/06/29/001-ultras-vendredi.shtml

Je crois qu'il y a malheureusement un peu partout ce genre de supporteurs dans la plupart des clubs y compris au Toronto Fc. Cela fait partie des excès du sport masculin. Le dénigrement et le racisme (voire même l'intimidation entre Ultras de différents clubs) devrait être bannis du sport masculin. Peut être s'il y avait plus de filles dans les estrades des stades (et sur les terrains de foot) cela calmerait de nombreux monsieurs Ultras. J'ai dit peut être....

La grande majorité des supporteurs de l'Impact sont des familles. C'est à dire des parents (parfois monoparental, parfois des papas divorcés, souvent des familles reconstituées) avec leurs enfants. Je trouve cela très bien. Il y a plusieurs jeunes adolescents aussi. Ils et elles (car il y a des filles aussi) ont des billets gratuits que l'Impact donne aux clubs amateurs de soccer. Cela amene une belle atmosphere de détente dans les gradins.

Plusieurs Ultras de Montréal n'apprécient pas beaucoup l'atmosphere familiale du stade Saputo. Ces monsieurs (car les ultras sont en grande majorité des gars , exception faite d'une ou deux filles..) reprochent aux supporteurs de l'Impact d'être trop tranquilles. Sur ce point, ils ont partiellement raison. Je l'admet. Comme quoi dans la vie , tout n'est pas tout blanc d'un coté et tout noir de l'autre coté.

Et à Toronto, il y a surement des familles, des papas avec leurs enfants qui viennent supporter le Toronto Fc ? Y a t il au BMO Toronto des jeunes adolescents membres de petits clubs amateurs de soccer qui ont obtenu des billets gratuits du Toronto FC ?

Ce serait merveilleux.

L' arrivée de l'Impact de Montréal dans la MLS sera très positive pour l'ensemble du soccer canadien. Mon grand souhait personnel Vancouver Whitecaps et l'Impact de Montréal tous les deux dans la MLS en 2011.

(une suggestion pour le Toronto Fc, mettre sur pied une vrai grande équipe féminine de soccer, pourquoi pas dans la nouvelle ligue WPS. Beaucoup de filles de Montréal appuierons cette équipe féminine de Toronto)

Place à la diversité.

Vive la Tolérance et le respect des autres.

amicalement

Elle parle bien d'un stade de foot?? Atmosphère de détente?? C'est un évenement sportif pas un théatre!! (english version: Is she really talking about a football stadium?? Relaxed atmosphere?? It's a sporting event not a midtown play??)

[Grizzly]

Wow. We have found the French version of Richard. Kind of ironic someone with the nickname Lolita defending the families of Stade Saputo against those big, bad Ultras. What is wrong with this country that we can't have soccer stadiums full of people like Richard and Lolita sipping tea while the watch the matches and politely applaud both teams? It is always refreshing to hear the intolerant preaching tolerance!

[lolita]

Bonjour SteveBeau

Bonjour Grizzly

Je comprend un peu la langue anglaise en lisant vos mots mais j'ai bien de la difficulté à écrire des phrases en anglais. Je crois si j'ai comprise adéquatement que vous trouvez ridicule mon opinion. Où suis je intolérante dans mes propos ? suis je injuste vis à vis les Ultras qui ne sont que 100 à 300 supporteurs environ dans le stade Saputo ? et les 10,000 à 12,000 autres supporteurs présents au stade Saputo les avez vous oubliés ???? Les Familles oui c'est très important chez L'Impact de Montréal: D'ailleurs dans ma vie, c'est mon papa qui m'a apprise à jouer au soccer et qui m'a amené au stade de Claude Robillard (avant l'existence du stade Saputo). L'impact de Montréal a compris l'importance des enfants et des familles comme supporteurs , car de nombreux joueurs visitent les clubs de soccer amateur de jeunes et vont dans les hopitaux pour les enfants malades donner du soutien moral, certains joueurs comme Mauro Biello contribuent à un programme pour lutter contre le décrochage scolaire dans les écoles. C'est du positif. Où suis-je intolérante ?

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http://www.montrealimpact.com/Community/Default.aspx?language=EN

Je me souviendrai toute ma vie de la visite des joueurs de l'impact à notre terrain de soccer, le 28 mai dernier. J'ai pu jouer avec eux pendant quelques minutes. Un grand moment de bonheur pour moi. De plus, le Club de soccer Saint-Donat a reçu 2000 billets pour le match de l'Impact du 6 juillet dernier. Nous étions plus de 2000 jeunes du quartier à assister à ce match au Stade Saputo. C'est du positif.

[Mpenza]

Lolita... tu mentionnes le racisme, dans tes propos anti-ultras. Sache que le racisme n'est pas toléré en section 114.

Pour le reste, ben, si dire que les cheerleaders ne servent à rien, c'est dénigrer les autres, t'as encore quelques leçons à apprendre ma grande...

[Free kick]

quote:Originally posted by lolita

pas vraiment. C'est sur qu'il y'en a mais c'est pas évident. La stratégie de marketing entre le club Montrealais est celle du TFC est differente. Le premier vise la clientèle que vous decrivez tandis que l'autre vise une clientèle qui amene la passion est une certaine ambiance au stade. Passion étant le mot clef.

Un siège occupé est toujours préferrable à un siège vide. Mais si je comprend bien le situation au stade Saputo, ce que les supporteurs raproche au autres dans stade c'est le manque de passion et non pas leur statut socio-économique ou démographique. On est tous d'accord que chanter a un match de soccer c'est pas pour tous le monde. Mais, prennons le recent match international comme exemple, Il y'en avait plusiers parents avec leurs enfants présent et d'autre comme vous decrivez. On a presque pas entendus de chants de leur par, mais la passion et l'émotion etait la. Ils ont faite sentir leur présence.

[Grizzly]

I will answer in English since it takes me longer to write in French and I want everyone here to understand. The Ultras have no problem with families being at the stadium. We do have a problem with people who are given free or very cheap tickets to games who do not show up while regular fans can not get tickets because the game is sold out (despite thousands of empty seats). Many of these families have sold their tickets to scalpers. We also have a problem with people who come to games on these same free/very cheap tickets and who show very little interest in the game. There are many families at Habs and Alouettes games and they are interested in the game and cheer the team passionately. The same can not be said for many of the families at Impact games. This is not a criticism of all families at Impact games but rather those who do not come to the games or do not show much interest in the games when they are there.

The family crowd for the Impact largely has a very weak affinity for the team. They do not show up for games that are not free or part of discount packages or when there is even the slight hint of rain. This can be seen by the poor attendance at the stadium opener and some of the most important games in club history, Champions League games and playoff games. We certainly have no problem with those families who are actually fans of the club particularly if they are paying for their tickets. The Impact does give away tickets or sell them cheaply to groups to try and build the audience for soccer and also to justify their non-profit status and other favours they get from various governments. The problem is that this strategy in the 15 years of the club has largely failed to build a significant support base for the team. The real support base of the team are those who come to multiple games per year, are willing to pay for their tickets and who attend important matches. We have seen this year how small that base of supporters is in our Champions League games. The Joe Public game had a very small audience and the Atlante game was larger but only because of the numerous Mexican fans. The Impact want to go to MLS and they can not do so with the current number of supporters who will not attend once they have to pay MLS prices.

Those families who are interested in the team certainly have their place in the stadium. Likewise we have our place. A big mistake was made this year in that family groups were sold tickets in our section among and right behind us with no warning that this was an official supporters standing section (Incidentally some of these parents were more violent and abusive than the opposing supporters groups who have come to games this year). In the past few months this error has been corrected and will be different next year as well. As opposed to being family unfriendly, there are many families and children who enjoy being in the supporters section. I often come to games with my friend's son who is 12 and used to find Impact games boring until the first time he stood with the Ultras. Now I don't have to ask twice about whether he wants to come to a game. We have had several school groups join us this year including a class from Israel that was on a trip to Montreal. The Ultras also have many members who are from the ages 15 to 18 and their number increases as they tell their schoolmates how fun it is to be with the Ultras. In previous years the Impact administration as seen in the comments by Joey Saputo have been intolerant of the Ultras. The attitude has been that only the families had their place in the stadium and noone else. Now this is starting to change and in the next year there will be a section for us and people who prefer our atmosphere and other sections for those who want to enjoy the game in a more quiet manner.

Your comments are greatly inaccurate as to the beliefs and behavious of the Ultras. We are officially against any type of racism. We are a supporters group and not hooligans and have been the Impact's most loyal fans since our founding. We are the fans who have been to every game, rain or shine and even travelled to Toronto with the team. Joey Saputo's comments about the Ultras were very inaccurate and disrespectful to this group of loyal, paying customers but they are also old and hopefully not indicative of his current opinion. During the first half of the season relations between the club and the Ultras probably hit their low point but recently have improved greatly and we are starting to work together to create a great atmosphere in the stadium. People are now warned what to expect when sitting in our section and many fans who are not Ultras are actually requesting to sit in our section. At the last game we had over 500 people standing and singing in section 114 and should have similar numbers this Tuesday. This is in comparison to some games earlier in the season in which we numbered only 30.

The Ultras are committed to creating the great atmosphere in the stadium which is a part of soccer culture throughout the world. If you do not enjoy this atmosphere, Lolita, I suggest instead of coming on to fan forums and making inaccurate and derogatory posts about the Ultras, you sit in the 95% of the stadium that is not a supporters section and where families can watch the game in whatever manner they choose.

[Montreal_FC_fan]

Hey lolita, continue a penser ce que tu veut.

Je suis sur que tu ferais une bonne soccer mom.

La Freestar c'est pour quand?

Amoins que tu veut poursuivre ton reve a devenir cheerleader de l'Impact...

Vraiment n'importe quoi ton oppinon.

PS. Les familles viennent voir un ou deux matchs par saison et partent a la 80e min grace a des billets rabais.

[Grizzly]

For those who do not understand French, apparently Lolita has posted on Quebecsoccer.com about her dream of being a cheerleader for the Impact. Thanks for setting such a great example for our children Lolita.

[loyola]

quote:Originally posted by Grizzly

For those who do not understand French, apparently Lolita has posted on Quebecsoccer.com about her dream of being a cheerleader for the Impact. Thanks for setting such a great example for our children Lolita.

She seems quite young by the way her posts are written. I thought your offered an excellent answer to her criticism 2 posts earlier but I'm not convince we need to start making fun of her because of her personnal ambitions. My 2 cents.

[Grizzly]

quote:Originally posted by loyola

She seems quite young by the way her posts are written. I thought your offered an excellent answer to her criticism 2 posts earlier but I'm not convince we need to start making fun of her because of her personnal ambitions. My 2 cents.

You may be right from a public relations standpoint. Yet I find it ironic that someone who is claiming we don't set a good example for children and hate families comes on here with a nickname from a book about a pedophile and dreams of a job with the Impact whose purpose is to sexually arouse the same male audience that she is so critical of. Maybe it is a flaw, but I find it pretty hard to let such hypocrisy pass uncommented on.

[lolita]

Bonjour

Hello

Je ne suis pas surprise du ton employé contre moi. Votre façon de débattre de vos idées s'apparente bien au climat de non-respect d'autrui chez plusieurs Ultras qui dénigrent constamment les autres supporters de l'Impact. Je n y peux rien. Je n'ai exprimée ici que mes idées. Et de façon polie. Certains ici n'ont malheureusement pas eu cette politesse envers moi.

Sans rancune

Bonne chance

une supportrice inconditionnelle de l'Impact

[Grizzly]

quote:Originally posted by lolita

Bonjour

Hello

Je ne suis pas surprise du ton employé contre moi. Votre façon de débattre s'apparente bien au climat de non-respect d'autrui chez plusieurs Ultras qui dénigrent constamment les autres supporters de l'Impact. Je n y peux rien. Je n'ai exprimée ici que mes idées. Davantage de filles parmi les Ultras de Montréal serait la meilleure chose pour vous tous. Cela calmerait les propos belliqueux de plusieurs monsieurs Ultras grands guerriers.

Sans rancune

Bonne chance

une supportrice inconditionnelle de l'Impact

Je vous ai donné une réponse très détaillée et polie. Cependant, si vous voulez être pris sérieusement, ne pas choisir un surnom associé avec les pédophilie et défenseur faisant des danses érotiques aux match de football. Je d'accord que plus de femmes dans la section Ultras est une bonne chose et si vous n'avez pas remarqué, comme nous grandissons plus grand il y a de plus en plus de femmes dans le kop.

[Keano]

There are misconceptions on both sides. There are many hundreds of season-ticket holders like my dad who choose to sit on the halfway line because it provides the best view of the play, and stands and cheers when something in the match (which he understands intimately and follows diligently) gives him a reason to.

He would say that people who choose to stand, many with their backs to the field for long portions of the match, and cheer and sing constantly when nothing has happened on the pitch, yet often don't when something great like a well-timed tackle or deft footwork has occurred, are less into the game that he is.

Because I understand football supporter culture as it has evolved elsewhere in the world over the years I would say he's wrong, but not more so than Ultras who think he's a soccer-dad who doesn't know/appreciate the team/sport because he sits, chooses half-line seats, and cheers only when given a reason to by the team, but cheers hard.

All that said I'm not sympathizing with Lolita's point of view, as clearly she's a little more bothered than the general misunderstanding I'm alluding to.

What I'd love to see is other groups in the various stands cropping up to echo/join/add to the Ultras atmosphere, thereby breaking down the us/them perceptions some people seem to have.

[Grizzly]

quote:Originally posted by Keano

There are misconceptions on both sides. There are many hundreds of season-ticket holders like my dad who choose to sit on the halfway line because it provides the best view of the play, and stands and cheers when something in the match (which he understands intimately and follows diligently) gives him a reason to.

He would say that people who choose to stand, many with their backs to the field for long portions of the match, and cheer and sing constantly when nothing has happened on the pitch, yet often don't when something great like a well-timed tackle or deft footwork has occurred, are less into the game that he is.

Because I understand football supporter culture as it has evolved elsewhere in the world over the years I would say he's wrong, but not more so than Ultras who think he's a soccer-dad who doesn't know/appreciate the team/sport because he sits, chooses half-line seats, and cheers only when given a reason to by the team, but cheers hard.

All that said I'm not sympathizing with Lolita's point of view, as clearly she's a little more bothered than the general misunderstanding I'm alluding to.

What I'd love to see is other groups in the various stands cropping up to echo/join/add to the Ultras atmosphere, thereby breaking down the us/them perceptions some people seem to have.

My point is that there is place for both in the stadium. If people want to watch the game I don't think I nor any of the Ultras have a problem with that. Our problem is with the people who are not watching or interested in the game, are not paying anything or very much for the tickets and often don't show up at all and sell their tickets to scalpers. As I said earlier, anyone who pays for a ticket in the 95% of the stadium that is currently not a supporters section can watch the game however they like. Just don't try to prevent us from watching the game in the manner we prefer.

[Keano]

quote:Originally posted by Grizzly

My point is that there is place for both in the stadium. If people want to watch the game I don't think I nor any of the Ultras have a problem with that. Our problem is with the people who are not watching or interested in the game, are not paying anything or very much for the tickets and often don't show up at all and sell their tickets to scalpers. As I said earlier, anyone who pays for a ticket in the 95% of the stadium that is currently not a supporters section can watch the game however they like. Just don't try to prevent us from watching the game in the manner we prefer.

Mine too. I do both depending on who comes with me.

The only people doing any actual preventing unfortunately seem to be the security... maybe that's it: Lolita's a Stade Saputo security mole? She's blown her cover now though [8D]

[Grizzly]

Well if we see a girl in the kop wearing a cheerleader's outfit we will know who it is.

[Keano]

quote:Originally posted by Grizzly

Well if we see a girl in the kop wearing a cheerleader's outfit we will know who it is.

[Mpenza]

quote:Originally posted by Keano

Ultras who think he's a soccer-dad who doesn't know/appreciate the team/sport because he sits, chooses half-line seats, and cheers only when given a reason to by the team, but cheers hard.

This is a blatant misconception about the Ultras. We've heard it and read it many times before. I don't understand where it comes from.

We've been critical of a certain part of the crowd that comes to games, but certainly not of fellow season ticket holders. We are critical of the people who come to games and get there 15 minutes late. We've been critical of those who spend most of the first half standing in line to get some food. We've been critical of the people who don't even bother to show up when it rains. We've been critical of the people who leave comes the 75th minute. We've been critical of those who come to games only because they have found free tickets one way or another. They aren't real supporters in our opinion. They are the ones who show up during warm-up, stand there looking at the teams and if the visiting team also wears blue, they just simply don't know who the Impact is between the two. They're the ones who come to us and ask us "is the Impact wearing blue?". They're the ones coming to us asking not to play drums. They're the ones thinking we're playing against Honduras next week, if they know about it....

But a season-ticket holder, who follows the team, who knows the players, who knows who's leading the table, who knows we need one point to qualify for the next round in the CCL, we surely never have been and never will be critical of.

I hope this is clear. Not everybody likes to stand, sing and jump for 90 minutes. We respect that. In the best stadiums around the world, you can have 25-40 % of the crowd who sing/jump/wave flags. Doesn't mean in any way that the remaing 60-75 % are jackasses.

I don't know why there absolutely has to be some sort us vs. them feeling. Many season ticket holders came along on the Toronto trip. They all enjoyed the atmosphere. We didn't force them to stand and sing with us or anything. We asked them in the bus on the way over to give us a little help with the singing if they wanted to because it was a big game. They responded well.

I've said it many times before: the Ultras are all Impact supporters, but that doesn't mean all Impact supporters are Ultras. There are many supporters at Saputo, many more than one might think and many more than what the 114 holds in capacity. The Ultras respect all those who follow the team on a regular basis and show up to as many games as they can, whether they cheer or not.

The problem lies with the other spectators, the "tourists" as one might call them. And as long as the Impact continues to fill the seats with people who don't give a rat's ass, we will be critical of that marketing strategy.

[Keano]

quote:Originally posted by Mpenza

This is a blatant misconception about the Ultras. We've heard it and read it many times before. I don't understand where it comes from.

We've been critical of a certain part of the crowd that comes to games, but certainly not of fellow season ticket holders. We are critical of the people who come to games and get there 15 minutes late. We've been critical of those who spend most of the first half standing in line to get some food. We've been critical of the people who don't even bother to show up when it rains. We've been critical of the people who leave comes the 75th minute. We've been critical of those who come to games only because they have found free tickets one way or another. They aren't real supporters in our opinion. They are the ones who show up during warm-up, stand there looking at the teams and if the visiting team also wears blue, they just simply don't know who the Impact is between the two. They're the ones who come to us and ask us "is the Impact wearing blue?". They're the ones coming to us asking not to play drums. They're the ones thinking we're playing against Honduras next week, if they know about it....

But a season-ticket holder, who follows the team, who knows the players, who knows who's leading the table, who knows we need one point to qualify for the next round in the CCL, we surely never have been and never will be critical of.

I hope this is clear. Not everybody likes to stand, sing and jump for 90 minutes. We respect that. In the best stadiums around the world, you can have 25-40 % of the crowd who sing/jump/wave flags. Doesn't mean in any way that the remaing 60-75 % are jackasses.

I don't know why there absolutely has to be some sort us vs. them feeling. Many season ticket holders came along on the Toronto trip. They all enjoyed the atmosphere. We didn't force them to stand and sing with us or anything. We asked them in the bus on the way over to give us a little help with the singing if they wanted to because it was a big game. They responded well.

I've said it many times before: the Ultras are all Impact supporters, but that doesn't mean all Impact supporters are Ultras. There are many supporters at Saputo, many more than one might think and many more than what the 114 holds in capacity. The Ultras respect all those who follow the team on a regular basis and show up to as many games as they can, whether they cheer or not.

The problem lies with the other spectators, the "tourists" as one might call them. And as long as the Impact continues to fill the seats with people who don't give a rat's ass, we will be critical of that marketing strategy.

I agree and said so in my post. It's regrettable that some people see it as an us and them scenario.

Mpenza, Grizzly, what is the thought for long-time Ultras about the idea of possible other supporter's groups in other stands to kind of spread the atmosphere around the stadium? Would that be perceived as unfortunate, drawing people away from one centralized group, or as a positive thing? Not that I think the hardcore fanbase is there yet, but maybe in the future and/or with MLS?

[Keano]

quote:Originally posted by Grizzly

Wow. We have found the French version of Richard. Kind of ironic someone with the nickname Lolita defending the families of Stade Saputo against those big, bad Ultras. What is wrong with this country that we can't have soccer stadiums full of people like Richard and Lolita sipping tea while the watch the matches and politely applaud both teams? It is always refreshing to hear the intolerant preaching tolerance!

Off topic but the absence of a tea stand is really my only complaint about the place. You can't even get a crap teabag in a styrofoam cup of warm water! Come on!

[Mpenza]

If we reach MLS, we might see other groups being created.

We don't have a problem with that. It's gonna be weird at first seeing how we're used to being alone. But as long as they respect what we do and try not to compete with us (as some other folks sometimes do), it's gonna be good. It's not rare to have several groups in the same stand, working/singing together to bring atmosphere to the stadium. Coordination is the key.

As a matter of fact, at some point in 2006 there were several groups (3) in our sector at CCR. There was no coordination, the atmosphere wasn't positive. It didn't last long.

[Keano]

quote:Originally posted by Mpenza

If we reach MLS, we might see other groups being created.

We don't have a problem with that. It's gonna be weird at first seeing how we're used to being alone. But as long as they respect what we do and try not to compete with us (as some other folks sometimes do), it's gonna be good. It's not rare to have several groups in the same stand, working/singing together to bring atmosphere to the stadium. Coordination is the key.

As a matter of fact, at some point in 2006 there were several groups (3) in our sector at CCR. There was no coordination, the atmosphere wasn't positive. It didn't last long.

Cool because I've been to watch Bristol Rovers in League 1 and they have two groups who do call and response to eachother and stuff across the corner of the pitch, pretty great...

[martinm182]

quote:Originally posted by Keano

Off topic but the absence of a tea stand is really my only complaint about the place. You can't even get a crap teabag in a styrofoam cup of warm water! Come on!

And where the hell are the meat pies!?!? j/k lol

[Keano]

quote:Originally posted by martinm182

And where the hell are the meat pies!?!? j/k lol

God is it just me or are those things barely edible. There's clear gelatin in them, for god's sake!