MM2 Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Changes in Bold Roster Movements November 2007 01 — Kenny Stamatopoulos (G) end of Loan with Tromso 21 — Chris Pozniak (D/M) to San Jose in the expansion draft Waived 28 — Srdjan Djekanovic (G) (Vancouver) 28 — Dave Guzman (M) 28 — Stephen Lumley (D) 28 — Christian Nunez (M)(Montreal) 28 — Adam Braz (D) (Montreal) 28 — Maycoll Canizalez (M) (Germany Div. 4) 28 — Marco Reda (D) (Charleston) February 2008 28 - Ronnie O'Brien to San Jose 28 - 2009 1st round pick + Allocation from San Jose 29 - Kevin Harmse from Los Angeles 29 - 2009 4th round pick to Los Angeles March 2008 Signed Tyler Rosenlund M UCSB Julius James D Connecticut D08 #9 Pat Phelan D/M Wake Forest D08 #10 Brian Edwards G Wake Forest D08 #28 Marco Velez D Puerto Rico Islanders Jarrod Smith F Hawke's Bay United NZ April 2008 01 Laurent Robert signed from Derby County 02 Rights to Mike Zaher traded to D.C. United 02 2009 1st round supplemental draft pick from D.C. United 09 Amado Guevara acquired from Chivas USA 09 Conditional 2009 & 2010 draft picks to Chivas USA 11 Collin Samuel waived 11 Rohan Ricketts signed 12 Kilian Elkinson signed to developmental spot 13 Andrew Boyens waived 24 Olivier Tebily signed 25 Tyler Hemming waived 25 Andrea Lombardo dropped to developmental roster June 2008 04 Pat Phelan traded to New England 04 International spot obtained from New England 04 Jarrod Smith promoted to Senior Roster 10 Tyler Hemming signed to Developmental roster 13 Abdus "Ibee" Ibrahim obtained from FC Dallas 13 Conditional 2010 draft pick to FC Dallas July 2008 05 Andrea Lombardo released TFC Roster 2008 Canadian 1 Jim Brennan M Southhampton ENG F 2 Greg Sutton G Montreal Impact T 3 Kevin Harmse M Los Angeles T Non-Canadian 4 Olivier Tebily D Birmingham F 5 Laurent Robert M Derby County Eng F 6 Maurice Edu M U of Maryland D07 #1 7 Jeff Cunningham F Real Salt Lake T 8 Daniele Dichio F Preston North End ENG F 9 Carl Robinson M Norwich City ENG F 10 Todd Dunivant D New York Red Bulls T 11 Rohan Ricketts M Barnsley ENG F 12 Tyrone Marshall D Los Angeles Galaxy T 13 Amado Guevara M Chivas USA T 14 Marvell Wynne D New York Red Bulls T 15 Julius James D Connecticut D08 #9 16 Jarrod Smith F Hawke's Bay United NZ F 17 Marco Velez D Puerto Rico Islanders T 18 Brian Edwards G Wake Forest D08 #28 Developmental Canadian 19 Nana Attakora-Gyan D Canada U20 N 20 Tyler Hemmming D/M F 21 Joey Melo M/F Canada U17 N 22 Gabe Gala M Canada U20 N 23 Tyler Rosenlund M UCSB/Sweden F 24 Kilian Elkinson Canada 25 Open 26 Open Non-Canadian 27 Abdus Ibrahim F FC Dallas T 28 Open 2008 MLS College Draft # Name Pos From Superdraft 9 Julius James D Connecticut 10 Pat Phelan D/M Wake Forest 28 Brian Edwards G Wake Forest 30 Mike Zaher D UCLA 35 Joseph Lapira F Notre Dame Supplemental Draft 58 Xavier Balc F Ohio State The table shows how the player was obtained: (T)ransfer/(T)rade — TFC paid a transfer fee/Trade (F)ree — a free agent and TFC paid no fee (D)raft — selected in the MLS draft (N)TC — a Canada National Training Centre selection Spot Name Pos From How On Trial 2008 # Name Pos From <s>1 Stefan Honore M France </s> <s>2 Tyler Rosenlund M UCSB </s> <s>3 Jaime Watson F Real Salt Lake </s> <s>4 Josh Wagenaar G ADO Den Haag </s> <s>5 Kiki Musampa M AZ Alkmaar HOL</s> <s>6 Tony Vairelles F Tours FC FRA</s> <s>7 Robbie Gaspar F AUSTRALIA</s> <s>8 Martin Brittain M Walsall EN</s> <s>9 Victor Danilo Pacheco M COL</s> <s>10 Leonardo Pole F COL</s> <s>11 Kevin Gall F Carlisle ENG F</s> <s>12 Rohan Ricketts M Barnsley ENG</s> <s>13 Olivier Tebily D Birmingham ENG</s> 2007 Roster Dance http://www.insidesoccer.net/?p=644 Note: Salaries are 2008 numbers. Senior Roster: 18 players that count against the teams salary cap. Players on the senior roster earn between $33,000 and $400,000 per season. Developmental Roster: 10 players that do not count against the league salary cap. Developmental players earn between $12,900 and $17,700 per season. Developmental players must be 25 years old or younger. Canadian Players: have Canadian Citizenship or who have landed immigrant status. American Players: have American Citizenship or who have a green card. For example Pat Onstad who is a Canadian and holds an American green card, counts as an American with his current team Houston. If he was to play for TFC, he would count as a Canadian. International: for a USA based team any player who does not meet the above definition for an American. For TFC, any player who does not meet the above definition for a Canadian. Designated Player: a player signed for more then $400,000 per season. Teams are each allocated one designated player slot. Teams may trade for unused DP slots. Generation Adidas Player: a High School or college undergraduate player who is signed by the league. In addition to their salary, GA players receive a college education paid by the league. GA players are placed on the developmental roster. GA players do not count against the salary cap and are not subject to the $17,700 maximum salary of other developmental players. Superdaft: four round draft of college seniors and Generation Adidas players. Supplemental Draft: four round draft of college seniors and other players nominated by MLS teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Glad to see this thread back. One question: the first $400k of the DP's salary counts against the cap, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchster Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Is there any chance of anymore Canadian content than just five players or is that the bare minium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 quote:Originally posted by youllneverwalkalone Glad to see this thread back. One question: the first $400k of the DP's salary counts against the cap, right? Correct. However, if a team has a 2nd DP the cap hit for that player is only $325K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 quote:Originally posted by youllneverwalkalone Glad to see this thread back. One question: the first $400k of the DP's salary counts against the cap, right? Correct. However, if a team has a 2nd DP the cap hit for that player is only $325K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Happy to see this thread back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM2 Posted March 4, 2008 Author Share Posted March 4, 2008 xTFCers Jose Cancela and Ritchie Kotschau have been waived by their teams. A waiver draft will be held tomorrow at 1 PM, TFC will have 2nd pick, very rare that anyone is picked up in these drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Just so people know an RPB called 125_TFC says he took this picture in the locker rooms at BMO Field recently:- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM2 Posted March 4, 2008 Author Share Posted March 4, 2008 With 3 Non-Canadians on the Developmental roster, that would add up. Or they go with 4 Canadians on the Senior roster and carry 2 N-C on developmental roster. http://www.insidesoccer.net/?p=831 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Might be a good way to deal with the later draft picks like Zaher and Balc if they are seen as being worth keeping around. I would question whether Lombardo really deserves a senior roster deal at this point, however. Nothing in the regulations on the mlsnet website to suggest he can't be demoted in that regard:- ( DEVELOPMENTAL ROSTER MLS teams shall not have more than 10 developmental players on their developmental roster at any time (unless a player is added as a season-ending injury replacement). Developmental players can be either domestic or international and must be 25 years of age or younger during the calendar year of competition. These players do not count against a team's salary budget. They are signed to non-guaranteed contracts and thus, can be waived at any time. Teams are permitted an unlimited number of signings during a given season to ensure all 10-man developmental roster spots are occupied at any one time. Generation adidas players and domestic and international underclassmen, form part of a team's Developmental Roster. They are acquired by MLS teams through the SuperDraft, Lottery, Discovery or waiver system (see below) if they join the League after the SuperDraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 quote:Originally posted by BringBackTheBlizzard Just so people know an RPB called 125_TFC says he took this picture in the locker rooms at BMO Field recently:- Do you know how recently? The reference to "YI's" seems to date this somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM2 Posted March 4, 2008 Author Share Posted March 4, 2008 What is really interesting is the question marks after "Canadians" in 2009 and 10. quote:Do you know how recently? The reference to "YI's" seems to date this somewhat. As an expansion team TFC was allocated 5 YI for two years, since the YI designation no longer exists, they are converted to Internationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 quote:Originally posted by MM2 As an expansion team TFC was allocated 5 YI for two years, since the YI designation no longer exists, they are converted to Internationals. Yes I know - and that's the part that seems to date this. IIRC it has been several months since they got rid of the YI status, I'd be surprised if they have that in the locker room this year (although it is a bit surprising that they even have this info up locker room to begin with). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Parts of that picture look "off". I'd be surprised if it was real. Either way, whoever wrote it needs a quick refresher from Bob The Angry Flower's Quick Guide to the Apostrophe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovalroaster Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 is it just me, or does the 2008 roster not look very much better than what we had in 2007? i remember near the end of last season Mo said he wanted 2 new defenders, 2 new midfielders, 2 new strikers. granted, TFC may have those new players through the draft, but i was expecting some roster changes this off-season with a little more bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Ault Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 TFC targeting Sunderland's Ross Wallace www.canadakicks.com or directly to the Sunderland Echo article. http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/Cats-midfielder-to-join-Beckham.3839310.jp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 quote:Originally posted by ovalroaster i remember near the end of last season Mo said he wanted 2 new defenders, 2 new midfielders, 2 new strikers. granted, TFC may have those new players through the draft, but i was expecting some roster changes this off-season with a little more bang. To the best of my knowledge we haven't added any new strikers as yet, via the draft or any other means. Although there is still time, it would not surprise me if we only have four on the entire roster by the time we start the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Bill Ault or directly to the Sunderland Echo article. http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/Cats-midfielder-to-join-Beckham.3839310.jp The author of that article needs a lesson in Canadian geography. "Toronto are well-financed and their first season in the MLS has been a success with crowds of more than 20,000 turning up to support the East Coast side." Heck, we're not even on the east coast of Lake Ontario..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Lake Ontario, where's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Ault Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Gian-Luca The author of that article needs a lesson in Canadian geography. Cut him some slack at least he's an ocean away.... some people in Buffalo don't know where Toronto is [)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Ex-TFC Marco Reda is now with the Charleston Battery: http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=3600705 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Gian-Luca Do you know how recently? The reference to "YI's" seems to date this somewhat. Recently, as in last month or so is my impression but will try to investigate further. He has only been mentioning it for the last couple of weeks or so. I thought the YI thing was not that odd as the two extra YIs for being an expansion team and the additional one from the Cancela trade are important for understanding why it can be 16 non-Canadians this year and you need to understand the old system to know why 6 rather than 3 YIs would be turning into International roster spots in '08. What I found strange, since I have not heard it mentioned elsewhere, is the 3 (rather than 2) extra Americans in '09 and '10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Gian-Luca To the best of my knowledge we haven't added any new strikers as yet, via the draft or any other means. Although there is still time, it would not surprise me if we only have four on the entire roster by the time we start the season. Not sure that is accurate Balc and Lapira can both play up front. Jamie Watson the former RSL player who has been trying out is a striker as is Jarrod Smith the 2007 draft pick from New Zealand. Latest from Florida according to Gerry Dobson. http://www2.sportsnet.ca/blogs/gerry_dobson/2008/03/04/winds_of_change/ Thirty-four year old former French international Tony Vairelles is in camp. He has eight career caps for France. Robbie Gaspar is an Australian. Twenty-two year old Donald comes via Inverness in Scotland. Martin Brittain spent time at Newcastle, and more recently at Walsall. And Dutch international Kiki Musampa has made a return appearance. Maybe some money is better than no money at all. Tony Vairelles and Dean McDonald are strikers according to wikipedia. Good news on Musampa being back, in my opinion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_McDonald http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Vairelles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Mark Robbie Gaspar: Some odd forum stuff on him from 07: "The only australian who played in indonesia premier league..." and from 04: "Robbie Gaspar played for Perth Glory two seasons ago. He's quite young - 22 years - and has a good left foot. He scored 10 goals in the Malaysian Premier Division last year (Malaysia just recently renamed the top division as the Super League; Premier League is basically division 2). He's big with the Sabah fans and has been known for his crosses and freekicks. I was wondering if he enjoyed the same success with Perth." you tube hilights: http://youtube.com/user/glengaspar I feel sorry for the TFC fans who were expecting at least the odd big name - at least Musampa is back - presumably only becuase he is close to signing, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 An article posted by Gaucho in the "Dasovic names provisional roster thread" in the men's teams forum indicates that Rosenlund has signed with TFC, pending league approval of the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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