Eric Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Well, FIFA has finally reccognize the CSL as the only true Canadian National League. That is a big statement considering that many people in Canada belives that the MLS or the USL are canadian leagues, just because they allowed THREE teams to be part of THEIR organizations. I'm very happy that the CSL has now international recognition, even though is hurting a lot of people and "official organizations" in Canada. Here is the link enjoy: http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=can/nationalleague/standings.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytown Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 The csl has teams in ont and que how is that national. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 quote:Originally posted by bytown [br]The csl has teams in ont and que how is that national. Not every country in the world has teams in every province, region or state in their country but their league is still call a National League just like in Russia for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytown Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Unless the fifa has changed there policys.a Few years back to be seen as a national league you had to have teams at the very least in the weast and west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 I suspect FIFA has fallen victim to the misleading, pretentious name and claims of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Richard [br]I suspect FIFA has fallen victim to the misleading, pretentious name and claims of the league. FIFA has fallen victim!!!! FIFA??? so they're not a competent organization any more!!! sorry guys....... the revolution has started!!! and the most ethnic league in the country is the National League of the most ethnic country in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Cough splutter, you condemn the entire FIFA organisation as incompetent because somebody names the CSL as Canada's national league!! Now THAT'S incompetent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 au contraire!!! richard..........FIFA is the only competent here, that's why they chose the CSL as the national league of Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 In what possible way can the CSL be considered a national league except for its pretentious name? Two clubs out of how many that are not within 100 mile or less radius of Toronto downtown! Don't go picking me out if I am off by a few miles, my point stands. The CSL if it is extremely fortunate might, just might, eventually be a national league in some form or another in years to come but that's a long way out. Pretending it is national now just makes it a laughing stock in the eyes of most right thinking people who don't live in or near Toronto. There is a whole lot more to Canada than southern Ontario and western Quebec Heck, the league even dropped the word 'professional' from its name because it just made it look silly. I am sure it is a perfectly acceptable regional league for its local market like many others in Canada, no criticism there, but national, sorry, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 A national league is a league in a country that plays under FIFA rules. Usually it is entirely of one country, with little exceptions like Varduz playing in Switzerland or the club Andorra playing in Spain, but both Luxembourg and Andorra have their own leagues and winners who qualify for UEFA cup early rounds. A top club can play in another league, but the country still has its own league, and it is teams from that league that are usually the ones that represent the nation in a continental club competition. That CSL is regional or amateur or even semi-pro at some clubs or anything else is irrelevant. What are my problems with this league? Only that it does not have structure more representative of more provincial associations. If it had a national structure in divisions and a national playoff that would be a lot better, but in any case, how can you start to argue for being representative or not as the basis of legitimacy? I mean, in France there is only one top club in Paris and it could even relegate. Would the French league still be a French league without representation from Paris? Which leads me to my next difficulty, which is some sort of system of pro-releg, which I understand is hard to see happen in Canada. That said, once we accept leagues in North America with Canadian and US teams as a state of exception sanctioned by FIFA, I can understand the problems some folks have with the FIFA decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyr Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Why am I getting the impression Eric is on a bit of a fishing expedition with this one? [}] Whom have you enjoyed baiting more?... Everyone outside of Toronto (embodied by Richard) or the poor FIFA web editors that have to deal with a full email box on the subject. Whatever they put in that space is going to piss off someone. Makes enjoyable reading anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 ^ I've stated my case, if he rejects it more fool him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Richard ^ I've stated my case, if he rejects it more fool him. The only fool here richard is you. Don't be jealous, just move to the east!!! just kidding. I think Jeffrey is right, "A national league is a league in a country that plays under FIFA rules" but the problem here is (as far as I know) that CSL has been trying for many years to apply all the FIFA rules to the league but it has always been deny by OSA and CSA. As an example I know that discipline rules in the league have always been dictated by OSA and are the same rules that apply to kids. Obviously this has to be one of the changes. What I'm getting at is that is not the CSL fault that things are not more professional in the league, it's just the same bureaucracy and job kipping mentality at OSA and CSA that stops initiatives or new ideas from moving forward. I heard there's a lot of interest in other provinces in participating in a national league format, divided into regions and playing a final play off to determined the national champion. The point here gentlemen is that for good or bad Canada shows a national league in the FIFA website and is going to be up to all of us soccer fans to help make the CSL or any other league with serious aspirations to be the pro league in Canada, make it successful or ignore it because is not yet in our backyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I find it extremely hard to believe that apparently poor relationship between the CSL and the CSA/OSA is all the fault of the CSA/OSA. It always takes two for any argument. As for discipline, why does the CSL not deal with its own discipline issues internally just as the Pacific Coast SOccer League does, FIFA rules apply universally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 Up and till now the OSA discipline rules apply to any league base in Ontario, otherwise referees won't be allow to ref games from those leagues. That's the OSA for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I sincerely doubt that any rift that exists between the CSL and the CSA/OSA is due solely to a disagreement over discipline rules. There is certainly more to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Richard I sincerely doubt that any rift that exists between the CSL and the CSA/OSA is due solely to a disagreement over discipline rules. There is certainly more to it. You mean, you sincerely hope that would be something deeper and dirtier to blame the CSL for. Sorry richard........that's one of reasons, the other reason is power loss in the province and eventually in the country which leads to job loss by a lot of incompetent people that work at the OSA and the CSA. You have to understand that once professionals begin to ocupate relevant positions in canadian soccer, many so call "for the good of the game volunteers" will be out the door very fast......FOR THE GOOD OF THE GAME finally!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Clearly another person with a big agenda here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 December 15 - PCSL Director Richard Howes (right) received a BCSA Award of Merit at the BCSA annual awards banquet in Vancouver on December 15, 2007. Presenting the award was BCSA VP and Director Harold McNeill. http://www.pcsl.org/ Too bad that your league was not the one selected by FIFA richard!!! otherwise you would't be so negative towards the CSL being in the FIFA website........... maybe next time bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnipeg Fury Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 The real CSL 87-92 was a national league, and I think we all know, regardless what FIFA says, that the CPSL is NOT Canada's national league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Eric December 15 - PCSL Director Richard Howes (right) received a BCSA Award of Merit at the BCSA annual awards banquet in Vancouver on December 15, 2007. Presenting the award was BCSA VP and Director Harold McNeill. http://www.pcsl.org/ Too bad that your league was not the one selected by FIFA richard!!! otherwise you would't be so negative towards the CSL being in the FIFA website........... maybe next time bud. Thank you for the extra exposure but the award, according to the citation, had nothing to do with any involvement with the PCSL. And besides, why would anybody be jealous of the CSL for goodness sake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Winnipeg Fury The real CSL 87-92 was a national league, and I think we all know, regardless what FIFA says, that the CPSL is NOT Canada's national league. Couldn't agree more. The real CSL had teams from Victoria to Halifax (at most), or Vancouver to Montreal (at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSwede Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Point blank we don't have a national league and therefore it shouldn't be on our site page at FIFA.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 We are all very happy for you and the other 49 fans that follow the CSL Eric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 WOW!!! so much hatred from the west [8D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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