Guest Ed Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 on mlsnet.com Round 1 1. KC - Chance Myers DEF 2. DAL - Brek Shea MID/DEF 3. RSL - Anthony Beltran MID/DEF 4. LA - Sean Franklin MID/DEF 5. COLO - Ciaran O'Brien MID 6. COLU - Andy Iro DEF 7. CHIC - Patrick Nyarko F 8. DAL - Chance Myers - according to MLSNET. How is a guy taken twice? Aww ---- Josh Lambo GK - changed it and the 1st TFC pick is!!!!! 9. TFC - Julius James DEF - right on, help develop our CONCACAF brothers!!! and the 2nd TFC pick is!!!!! Is Mo deliverying a speech or something? gotta be Avila no? 10. TFC - Pat Phelan MID 11. KC - Roger Espinoza ? 12. CHI - Dominic Cervi GK 13. NE - Rob Valentino DEF 14. RSL - David Horst DEF Round 2 15. SJ - Shea Salinas FOR - Frankie's first pick 16. NY - Eric Brunner DEF 17. RSL - Alex Nimo MID 18. NE - Michael Videira MID - some long break going on here!! 19. DAL - Eric Avila MID 20. COLU - George Josten MID/FOR 21. LA - Ely Allen FOR 22. DAL - traded pick to COLU - Ricardo Pierre Louis FOR 23. KC - Yomby William DEF 24. DC - Andrew Jacobsen MID 25. KC - Jon Leathers DEF 26. CHIC - Peter Lowry MID 27. NE - Joe Germanese MID 28. LA - traded pick to TFC ($) - Brian Edwards GK Round 3 29. LA - Julian Valentin DEF 30. TFC - Mike Zaher DEF 31. DAL - traded pick to COLU - Ryan Miller DEF 32. NY - Luke Sassano DEF/MID 33. DC - Ryan Cordeiro FOR 34. LA - Matt Allen GK 35. TFC - Joseph Lapira FOR 36. COLO - Adrian Chevannes DEF 37. RSL - Brennan Tenelle 38. CHI - Dwight Barnett 39. KC - Matt Marquess 40. CHI - Steven King (thought he was hit by a car while jogging) 41. NE - Matthew Britner DEF - close to home! 42. HOU - Geoff Cameron MID (first pick for defending champs!!) Round 4 - No TFC picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadasBest Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 For a brief moment they had Chance Myers drafted twice. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C. Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 9th pick Toronto: Julius James, defender, UConn http://www.mlsnet.com/players/bio.jsp?team=mls&player=james_j&event=superdraft&year=2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C. Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 10th pick Toronto: Pat Phelan, midfielder, Wake Forest http://www.mlsnet.com/players/bio.jsp?team=mls&player=phelan_p&event=superdraft&year=2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 You didn't get the memo, Ed. Mo is on a secret sabotage mission to ruin our CONCACAF rivals young prospects by choosing them over our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew W Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Britner goes to New England. They obviously see something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 What we really should have done is thump our chests with nationalistic pride to pick players nobody else had on their board. That would have made sense. Edit: good on Britner. With SN's solid record on drafting there is a good chance he sees enough talent to turn him into a solid MLS player. Paying for that pick didn't make much sense to me, but hey not much Mo Johnston does really comes across properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmynow Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 some people had James rated #1... so amazing pick for TFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmynow Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 some people had James rated #1... so amazing pick for TFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 quote:Originally posted by jimmynow some people had James rated #1... so amazing pick for TFC. Pretty early to call it an amazing pick, considering 5 defenders were rated higher by other MLS coaches / GMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I am finding this quite unforgivable. The third round is over and no sight of a Canadian player drafted. Come on, what are the odds that Mike Zaher and Joseph Lapira are going to make impact and play right away or even ever wear the TFC jersey? Anyone remember who they drafted third last year? Apparently, Mike Zaher and Joseph Lapira are deemed more valuable as than any canadian. What are the odds that these guys ( or any third rounder) will make an impact on the the team? Surely the symbolic gesture of selecting a canuck in this round would reflect much more favourably on the organization. Last year Mo overlooked Riley Oneill in the third round ( the "what have you got to lose" round) in favour of some other guy ( Hunter something). Riley O'neill gets picked two spots later. Then wahat happens early on in the year when connor casey refuses to play for TFC? Mo trades him to Colorado for guess who? Riley ONeil. [:I] Go figure that one out given that he could have had him for free months earlier . I gave Mo the benefit of the doubt to a certain extent when he talks about the shallowness of the Cnd talent pool. But not this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 hey it happened again, Matt Brittner is drafted a few spots later! in the third round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Disappointing, but I'm not surprised, to be honest. Mo just doesn't rate Cdn. talent very much. According to Sean's blog on thescore.ca Joseph Lapira isn't even interested in playing in MLS (he's heading off to Europe) but we still drafted him instead of a Canadian prospect, who gets drafted by a much better team in the form of the New England Revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Calm down guys, remember this is trader Mo. Wouldn't surprise me at all if these draft picks are not all traded long before training camp even begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vics Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 I think Toronto FC missed the boat with their 35th pick considering Canadian Jacek Przednowek was available... The #1 ranked prospect going into the 2008 MLS Superdraft was... Patrick Nyarko (Virgina Tech) Forward 6'0",165lbs, Ghana NCAA D1 career: 2007 22GP 7G 10A 2006 20GP 16G 8A 2005 15GP 8G 6A Total: 57GP 31G 24A 86pts Jack Przednowek (RMU) Forward 22yrs old, 6'1", 170lbs, Brantford Ontario, Canada NCAA D1 career: 2007 18GP 15G 4A 2006 19GP 9G 4A 2005 21GP 14G 3A Total: 58GP 38G 11A 87pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Lapira is one of the top ranked players in US college soccer. Taking a flier on Lapira is SMART football management. If he lands a place in Europe, TFC still has his rights for 2 years. If he decides to come back within 2 years, he's ours. I'd take that chance with a 3rd round pick, that's for damn sure. Some of the more prominent blogsters are applauding Mo's decision to choose Lapira because many people doubt that Lapira will stick in Europe this go 'round and may end up in MLS very soon. The Zaher pick had me scratching my head but he is ranked higher than Brittner on virtually all the various scouting lists. Would it have been nice to take Brittner? Sure. But what if he's not up to snuff and gets cut? Would you applaud Mo for giving him a chance in the 1st place or would you say he didn't commit to developing Canadian players? Look at the disenchantment when Mo cut all those young canucks last year. If I'm Mo, I only draft sure fire Canadians, players who will be sure to win a spot on the team. Bringing borderline guys into camp is just setting yourself up for criticism because they have a better chance of getting cut outright than making the team (i.e. Gonsalves, AJ Grey, Assante, etc...). TFC will field its quota of Canadian players. You can be sure of that. You might not be happy that they bring in only the bare minimum but Mo's job in 2008 is to field a better team. With some luck, the key young Canucks already with the team will continue to mature and play an important role on the team (esp. Hemmings, Lombardo, Melo and Gala). Mo might opt for a couple of Canuck seniors in the supplemental draft next week. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Vics I think Toronto FC missed the boat with their 35th pick considering Canadian Jacek Przednowek was available... The #1 ranked prospect going into the 2008 MLS Superdraft was... Patrick Nyarko (Virgina Tech) Forward 6'0",165lbs, Ghana NCAA D1 career: 2007 22GP 7G 10A 2006 20GP 16G 8A 2005 15GP 8G 6A Total: 57GP 31G 24A 86pts Jack Przednowek (RMU) Forward 22yrs old, 6'1", 170lbs, Brantford Ontario, Canada NCAA D1 career: 2007 18GP 15G 4A 2006 19GP 9G 4A 2005 21GP 14G 3A Total: 58GP 38G 11A 87pts consider the competition. I am pretty sure that Robert Morris University doesn't play quite the level of competition that Nyarko does in the ACC. If Jack were a really big prospect, don't you think he would have got a combine invite? He was on nobody's lists that I read and I read pretty much all of them. That doesn't mean he's not talented. Just means that he's more likely a supplemental draft pick rather than a superdraft pick. Maybe Mo will take a flier on him next week. (maybe not..hard to say) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vics Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Jacek went to DC United's combine and played on the same team as Toronto FC's 35th pick Joe Lapira and out played him scoring a few goals in the limited indoor games they played. I believe Jacek was also on the Columbus Crew's list of potential picks. I am sure the competition in RMU's NEC conference was not as high as some of the other conferences due to the schools size etc. but Jacek's career stats should of garnered more attention from Toronto F.C. in my opinion. Maybe with a bit more exposure Jacek will catch Mo's eye...It's kind of hard to argue with Jacek's stats, finishing 2nd in the nation in points per game and 3rd in goals per game. Hopefully TFC grabs him in the supplemental draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 ^ no doubt he's got impressive stats and I truly hope he gets a look in the supplemental draft. It would be great if its TFC that picks him. is he part of the U23 pool...anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 There are many more avenues available to pro soccer teams in North America to build a team than there are for other pro sports teams in other leagues. You have an abundance of talent in the global market ( transfers and otherwise), you have your own youth teams where you can pick up ( with out much restrictions) and develop players on your own and lastly, you can always trade for talent. With that, aside from the few "can't miss" prospects in the first round, I really cant see how the draft in MLS can be the " be all end all" that it is for the NBA, NHL and NBA. That, renders a third round pick not all that valuable. More so given that the restrictive salary constraints make it very unlikely that you can keep this talent from going to Europe anyways. Why in the world would Lapira or Zaher come to play in Canada when they could go to play abroad elsewhere? Again, Anyone know what ever happened to Hunter West? Wouldn't it be better to use these third round picks for their symbolic value and for building your potential local talent pool. Come on, given where they were drafted, what possible differences could there be between Brittner and Zaher who are both defenders. Plus, if Lapira goes to Europe and it doesn't work out ( as someone suggested) how does it benefit TFC to own the rights to him for two years for that talent when in fact there would ( in that case ) be a vast number of Canadians playing in Europe who are in that exact same boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 For comparaison purposes, here is the draft list from five years ago. Look at the third round. Aside from one USL player ( Roger Levesque), there are no recognizable names listed there. So what would be the difference between a Brittner and Zaher. In the right environment and with proper support, drafting a domestic talent would give you a better chance to develop that talent into something valuable. 21 Dallas David Comfort 22 New England Dimelon Westfield 23 San Jose Roger Levesque 24 Chicago Logan Pause 25 Chicago Ryan Mack 26 Chicago Phil Swenda 27 Colorado Jason Cole 28 Colorado Alex Blake 29 New England Kyle Singer 30 MetroStars Tim Glowienka http://web.mlsnet.com/history/archive.jsp?year=2003&content=superdraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Logan Pause played in MLS for a while. I think he is in Europe now. Regardless, I agree we should have taken Britner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM2 Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 So we draft five non-canadians, and outside of Brittner probably no choice. The draft really shows were TFC is not on a level playing field with the other teams in MLS. Last year most MLS teams had at least 5 draft picks on their roster, some had as many as 8, TFC had only 3 (two first round picks and Hemming) In any year it is unlikely that outside of the first round any non-canadians drafted will make the roster. TFC's International slots are too valuable to be used on prospects. Also if I was a non-canadian I would not want to be drafted by TFC, (outside of the first round) at least with another team I have a fairly good chance of making the developmental roster. With TFC my chances are remote and TFC holds my rights for two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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