TFC-Finland Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Hi! I'm from Finland and a big fan of soccer. After a Canadian player called Tyler Rosenlund (I saw him play) trialed for the club I support in Finland (IFK Mariehamn), I found my way to this site and got quite interested in TFC. I'm sort of becoming a "Reds" fan myself now, and as you can watch MLS-matches on TV here, I can even watch TFC live (in the middle of the night though). Well, to my point then.. I got really amazed when I saw how popular the sport is in Toronto, and ofcourse the atmosphere you've created in the stadium. Great work! How have you been able to create so much "culture" around a club that's only 1 year old? I think it's great, and I'll follow TFC for sure a lot more next season than I did this one. Come on you Reds! [8D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Hey, Great to see TFC is seen around the world! Took a lot of hard work from many supporter's groups and the club to make what you see now. Hopefully it will get bigger and better this upcoming season. This board is great for Canadian soccer news, but if you want more in depth TFC news try visiting www.usector.ca it's a TFC supporter's site with a forum where you can gets tons of TFC info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC-Finland Posted December 19, 2007 Author Share Posted December 19, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Pawel This board is great for Canadian soccer news, but if you want more in depth TFC news try visiting www.usector.ca it's a TFC supporter's site with a forum where you can gets tons of TFC info. Okay. Thanks, I'll do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB_Tito Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 This site have all the news and links to all TFC supporters clubs U-Sector,RPB,NEE etc. http://www.gotorontofc.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmynow Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 also check out redpatchboys.ca and specifically the message board, which is the largest discussion board for TFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashcleaner Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Thanks for the kind words, TFC-Finland. In a lot of ways the club (Toronto FC) worked with the supporters groups from day one making sure we had a say in how the game-day atmosphere would be. It was actually a team effort between the Supporters Groups (Red Patch Boys and U-Sector) and the club itself to come up with ideas for how to best create a fan-friendly atmosphere. The good thing about the supportes groups is that we both strive to ensure a truly international experience that includes singing, cheering, and chanting. Sometimes this has led to a few disagreements between us and the club, but our priority is the support of the team itself. The Supporter Group I belong to is the www.redpatchboys.ca, though as mentioned there is also U-Sector, Tribal Rythm Nation, and the North End Elite - each has a particular flair they bring to the festivities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC-Finland Posted December 20, 2007 Author Share Posted December 20, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Cashcleaner The good thing about the supportes groups is that we both strive to ensure a truly international experience that includes singing, cheering, and chanting. Sometimes this has led to a few disagreements between us and the club, but our priority is the support of the team itself. I think it's great that you've brought some of the international "supporting culture" to North America, and I'm sure it'll spread to other cities too when people get used to it. In Finland for instance, the way of supporting (if you can put it that way) has traditionally been sitting silent and only make some noise when your team scores (not ofcourse everyone, but the great majority). In the last 5-6 years this has started to change dramatically though, and new ultras-groups are coming up everywhere, which I think is great. I'm also very glad to see that new soccer clubs have more traditional names than "Ontario Bulldogs", or whatever. In my eyes it gives the club much more credibility if it's named in a traditional, "European" way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB_Tito Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Cashcleaner The Supporter Group I belong to is the www.redpatchboys.ca, though as mentioned there is also U-Sector, Tribal Rythm Nation, and the North End Elite - each has a particular flair they bring to the festivities. Tribal Rhythm Nation supporters club [:0] I can argue with you about them being supporters club but not now maybe some other time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashcleaner Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 ^ Well, they haven't updated their website since the summer and I haven't seen any real activity from them, so I know what you're saying. I just don't want to offend any of them who might post here. But yeah, I actually sorta agree with you on that. In their defence, they do have an obvious presence on gameday, but other than that, I don't hear much about them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB_Tito Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Post here? :):) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsir Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 The atmoshpere at the games is great and its amazing to see in Toronto...however the work TFC has done with the supports has created a somewhat "artificial atmosphere." There is no possible way one can be that passionate about a one-year old franchise. Passion takes years and years of work sacrafice and following..... Hoopefully the onfield product continues to improve, to give the fans something to actually cheer about!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 quote:Originally posted by lsir The atmoshpere at the games is great and its amazing to see in Toronto...however the work TFC has done with the supports has created a somewhat "artificial atmosphere." There is no possible way one can be that passionate about a one-year old franchise. Passion takes years and years of work sacrafice and following..... Hoopefully the onfield product continues to improve, to give the fans something to actually cheer about!!!! So what you're saying is that the passionate supporters of TFC are all fakers? TFC has facilitated the supporters groups, yes, of course. That is a fact and while IMO the club produced massive TFC banners should have been made by RPB and U-Sector, the club didn't produce the best banner of all, the NEE produced TFC shirt. You're entitled to your opinion but the passion from the hardcore support is real and has been germinating for years. Many of us were waiting for this since 1984 when the NASL died. Don't over estimate what the club did. The passion is generated by the fans! I think it's sad that you think it necessary to insult the supporters in this way. Personally, and this is only my opinion, I don't think you know what you're talking about (and that is the cleaned up version of what I had originally written). My apologies if you are offended by my passion! db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 quote:Originally posted by lsir The atmoshpere at the games is great and its amazing to see in Toronto...however the work TFC has done with the supports has created a somewhat "artificial atmosphere." There is no possible way one can be that passionate about a one-year old franchise. Passion takes years and years of work sacrafice and following..... Hoopefully the onfield product continues to improve, to give the fans something to actually cheer about!!!! What a load of crap. Passion takes years? So when you have a child, do you wait for a few years to love it, or do you love it right away? My example is simplistic, but the point remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Rudi What a load of crap. Passion takes years? So when you have a child, do you wait for a few years to love it, or do you love it right away? My example is simplistic, but the point remains. Exactly. I've been passionate about the Leafs and Argos all my life but not since the Blizzard have I felt this strongly about any club team! db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB_Tito Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 quote:Originally posted by lsir The atmoshpere at the games is great and its amazing to see in Toronto...however the work TFC has done with the supports has created a somewhat "artificial atmosphere." There is no possible way one can be that passionate about a one-year old franchise. Passion takes years and years of work sacrafice and following..... Hoopefully the onfield product continues to improve, to give the fans something to actually cheer about!!!! Only artificial thing at BMO is damn TURF,and nothing else,well maybe Tribal Rhythm Nation but that it. Passion is the emotion of feeling very strongly about a subject or person, usually referring to feelings of intense desire and attraction. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passion Next time think before you write it might help you to look smart.[xx(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsir Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Let's see if this "passion" continues 5 years down the road if the team continues to lose." Would u call a leaf fan who has supported the team for years "passionate", an "idiot" or both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Maybe people are happy that they finally get to cheer for a local professional team in a recognizable league and not for teams overseas that they can only watch on tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 quote:Originally posted by lsir Let's see if this "passion" continues 5 years down the road if the team continues to lose." Would u call a leaf fan who has supported the team for years "passionate", an "idiot" or both? You definately have the right to be skeptical, however, I don't think there is anything "artificial" about the atmosphere. Maybe a bandwaggon mentality has brought lots of people to the team in it's first year, but pretty much everything done in the stadium is organic. There's no corporate organization of what takes place in the stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 quote:Originally posted by ag futbol There's no corporate organization of what takes place in the stands. Exactly. I'm not sure where "lsir" even gets the idea that TFC created the supporters groups or atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAS Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Rudi Exactly. I'm not sure where "lsir" even gets the idea that TFC created the supporters groups or atmosphere. Well, to be fair, TRN is very suspicious. I know about the denials, but I don't believe them. The rest of the support is 100% authentic of course. The best proof of that is not just the traffic on the supporter's forums, but the noise and enthusiasm seen outside of the supporter's sections in the grandstands - in the realm of the "soccer moms". MLSE isn't hiring 20K actors (I never saw a paycheck!), so critics will just have to accept that a city full of people who grew up playing/watching soccer and supporting clubs in Europe (and Canada's MNT!) already knew how to support a team and transfered some of their passion to the new club. It is not that difficult to believe or understand. BTW, we need to get a list of all the countries where TFC is shown on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAS Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 quote:Originally posted by lsir Let's see if this "passion" continues 5 years down the road if the team continues to lose." Would u call a leaf fan who has supported the team for years "passionate", an "idiot" or both? With leafs fans, it is a great deal of both, but I fail to see why you would raise the question as it proves nothing and does not enhance your argument. The reputation of soccer supporters is rarely compared to that of Rhodes scholars, but it doesn't matter, because people are allowed to be passionate idiots about their clubs. How else could the clubs in Europe have survived for so long and after so much conflict/upheaval? You are always allowed to play the "let's see in . . . " card because nobody can credibly claim to predict the future with 100% certainty, but in the absense of any signs of weakness in TFC's support (you fail to provide any), it is a very weak one to be throwing out there right now. Since some of the people on the waiting list for TFC season tickets might have to wait five years to get FULL season tickets in the section of their choice, I would say that the next five years looks very promising for TFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amacpher Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Rudi What a load of crap. Passion takes years? So when you have a child, do you wait for a few years to love it, or do you love it right away? My example is simplistic, but the point remains. Well when the child is born you've already lived with it 24/7 for nine months. The passion/love builds gradually from day 1. So lsir isn't totally off-base here because: a) passion and stadium noise are two different things the passion obviously isn't as strong today as it will be this time next year... and the year after that, etc. (Similarily you didn't love your girlfriend/wife 2 days after you met her) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 quote:Originally posted by amacpher Well when the child is born you've already lived with it 24/7 for nine months. The passion/love builds gradually from day 1. So lsir isn't totally off-base here because: a) passion and stadium noise are two different things the passion obviously isn't as strong today as it will be this time next year... and the year after that, etc. (Similarily you didn't love your girlfriend/wife 2 days after you met her) Right. I said my comparison was simplistic. But it doesn't make it erroneous. You can draw comparisons to a wife/girlfriend by saying that you don't love her 2 days after meeting her, but it is possible to be passionate about her instantaneously. Basically I think lsir was trying to find a PC way to call the TFC fan support fake, which I'm saying is a load of bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Rudi Right. I said my comparison was simplistic. But it doesn't make it erroneous. You can draw comparisons to a wife/girlfriend by saying that you don't love her 2 days after meeting her, but it is possible to be passionate about her instantaneously. Basically I think lsir was trying to find a PC way to call the TFC fan support fake, which I'm saying is a load of bull. It's such a load of bullsh-t, I can smell it through my screen (i've got one of them fancy scratch and sniff monitors). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashcleaner Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Again, I can't help at laugh out loud at the people who are trying so desperately to bring us and what we have here in Toronto down to their level. We get this almost every other day - the attitude that we can't possibly care that much about our team and the sport itself. And it really tells you what sort of fan the accuser actually is as well. I mean, why do they bring up the on-field performance? Why are they so sure that 5 years down the line things will begin to unravel for us? It sounds an awful lot like these sort of people are just projecting their own tendencies onto us more than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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