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quote:Originally posted by loyola

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Wilson_%28soccer%29

Did he really played at Blackburn Rovers while scoring 50 goals in 4 seasons? It seems odd since he only scored 7 goals in 11 seasons before that.

I'd also say not likely. Wiki had Friend scoring 12 goals for Canada (senior team) before I changed it. Not very reliable.

That being said, Rovers' were in division II back then so maybe it is possible...

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Not likely,

It looks like Bruce Wilson became a player/coach in the pre-CSL Blizzard after the end of the NASL. Here is a bit of info taken from the Canadian Sports Hall of Fame:

http://www.cshof.ca/accessible/hm_profile.php?i=91

Following the demise of the NASL, Wilson retired from competition and turned his talents toward coaching. He was player/coach for the Toronto Inex, formerly the Toronto Blizzard, of the short-lived Canadian Soccer League, from 1985 to 1987. In 1988, he was named head soccer coach at the University of Victoria, leading them to the Canadian Interuniversity championships several times over the next two decades. One of the highlights of his coaching career came in 1993 when he was called on to head the Canadian FISU soccer team. He was also named the Canadian Interuniversity Athletic Union coach-of-the-year in both 1993 and 1997.

I can't find any reference to him playing in England at that time.

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Bruce Wilson never played for Blackburn. Someone has put that on Wikipedia as a hoax. Either the person at the CSA doing the Bios has been suckered into repeating the info posted on Wikipedia or the person that posted the bogus info on Wikipedia has hacked the CSA site as well.

I remember him being unattached during the 86 World Cup. My understanding was that he was waiting until the end of the WC to official retire as a player. He was 35 and the NASL was toast. My memory seems to be corroborated by the Planet World Cup web site:

http://www.planetworldcup.com/CUPS/1986/squad_can86.html

I think Colin Jose would have mentioned a 4 year stint at Blackburn in his Canadian and American Hall of Fame bios:

http://www.thesoccerhalloffame.ca/OSN.nsf/c1bfa845a2dec3bf85256b0b005d4116/fd8406bb81c0024785256b0d006e6f21?OpenDocument

http://www.soccerhall.org/famers/Bruce_Wilson.htm

There is also no mention at all of Blackburn in his bio on the UVic web site:

http://www.govikesgo.com/teams/index.php?sportid=20&do=coach

Marty

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quote:Originally posted by Martyr

Bruce Wilson never played for Blackburn. Someone has put that on Wikipedia as a hoax. Either the person at the CSA doing the Bios has been suckered into repeating the info posted on Wikipedia or the person that posted the bogus info on Wikipedia has hacked the CSA site as well.

I remember him being unattached during the 86 World Cup. My understanding was that he was waiting until the end of the WC to official retire as a player. He was 35 and the NASL was toast. My memory seems to be corroborated by the Planet World Cup web site:

http://www.planetworldcup.com/CUPS/1986/squad_can86.html

I think Colin Jose would have mentioned a 4 year stint at Blackburn in his Canadian and American Hall of Fame bios:

http://www.thesoccerhalloffame.ca/OSN.nsf/c1bfa845a2dec3bf85256b0b005d4116/fd8406bb81c0024785256b0d006e6f21?OpenDocument

http://www.soccerhall.org/famers/Bruce_Wilson.htm

There is also no mention at all of Blackburn in his bio on the UVic web site:

http://www.govikesgo.com/teams/index.php?sportid=20&do=coach

Marty

If he played for Blackburn, he has done an excellent job of hiding it!! I just checked in Colin Jose's Canadian Encyclopedia of Soccer (Keeping Score) and in the biographies he writes for Bruce Wilson:

"...had a trial with the famous English club Everton early in his career and was offered a contract but turned it down." No other mention of England at all, just the usual NASL stuff including playing for the Cosmos and his participation in the World Cup.

I agree with you. Someone is having some fun at his expense.

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I've been trying to update wiki, especially as it looks like the CSA has simply been taking information from there, including changing their official caps/scorers list to reflect it!!! RSSS is a much better resource.

I've updated the Canadian page with a history section and conformed it to the wiki standard for national teams as best I could. all thats left is for some of our stattos/anoraks to have a good look and make sure all the records are correct, maybe nominate someone to update the page and caps/goals every time we play a match...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_national_football_team

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What's even more troubling is that the CSA isn't even able to use it's own records for it's own web site.

Either the staff are too busy to wade through them or the records are missing/incomplete. The CSA should be preserving and promoting the history of our game.

It would be disgraceful if they are reduced to using Wikipedia as a source for their own history.

The other possibility is that the CSA staff are the ones updating Wikipedia with their own incorrect version of events. Either way it is woeful.

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I've taken it on myself to try to collect stats, as best I can.

So far I've gone back through 2001, but even 2000 is a pretty big hurdle (since we played 17 times, with a couple of minnow friendlies which are especially hard to find).

And I'm pretty skeptical of the quality of the info I'm finding (there is a lot of disagreement between sources).

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