gkhs Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Does anyone have a match report, or a really good memory of the Scotland friendly in 2002? Specifically, I'm looking for info on subs and cautions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 dero scored the first goal on a penalty. We lost 3-1 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 I have that info, and lineups, I'm just looking for substitutions and cautions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 here you go: http://www.concacaf.com/view_archive.asp?id=1002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Alex here you go: http://www.concacaf.com/view_archive.asp?id=1002 OMG, classic Holger with only one sub (at the 82th min) while Scotland made 5.... BTW, interesting to note that 10 players among the 12 named in this squad have played with the MNT in the last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 But did you see our team?? only Xausa and Fenwick are now gone, interesting note that alot of our players have been together for 5+ years for the national team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Alex But did you see our team?? only Xausa and Fenwick are now gone, interesting note that alot of our players have been together for 5+ years for the national team. See my Edit. But i'm not sure we can say that a lot of players have been together for the last 5 yrs. Hirsch dissapeared for a while, Nsaliwa with his passport, Hastings is only back since this summer, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 Sweet. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Alex here you go: http://www.concacaf.com/view_archive.asp?id=1002 Was Vogts in charge of Scotland at the time? I was wondering how many of the Scotland line up featured in their recent Euro 2008 qualifying run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 anybody got any highlights of this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I remember the blatant handball by a Scottish defender as he "slipped" in front of a Julian DeGuzman shot from 6 yards out right before halftime. That should have put us ahead 2-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 IIRC, the scoreline flattered Scotland a bit. I remember being terribly disappointed after the game. This was a pretty bleak time for a CMNT fan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Yeah, Fenwick cost us the third goal, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Daniel Yeah, Fenwick cost us the third goal, I think. Was it the third or the second? Where he and McKenna were fvking around with it at the top of the box? I blamed both of them on that disaster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 A bunch of us were there. We had a great stretch late in the first half where we played them off the park and the Scottish fans actually started whistling them. Imhof made a great run and then completely missed DeRo with a pass when he was wide open right near the penalty spot. Later Radz made a great run, cut it back to DeGuzman who had his shot handled off the line by Lee Wilkie. We were caught shocking flat on the first goal (which was right after the DeRo pk) and Fenwick was culpable on the last two goals. I'm pretty sure it was the second one where Mac and Fenwick were messing around. We played pretty well in the first half, but they came out took it from us in the second. Yeah Berti Voghts was in charge. He was under big fire and the Scots won in Iceland earlier in the week to take some pressure off and then the win over us gave us some breathing room. Had we beat them he might have lost his job. It was also one of McFadden's first caps. Perhaps even his debut. cheers, matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 A bunch of us were there. We had a great stretch late in the first half where we played them off the park and the Scottish fans actually started whistling them. Imhof made a great run and then completely missed DeRo with a pass when he was wide open right near the penalty spot. Later Radz made a great run, cut it back to DeGuzman who had his shot handled off the line by Lee Wilkie. We were caught shocking flat on the first goal (which was right after the DeRo pk) and Fenwick was culpable on the last two goals. I'm pretty sure it was the second one where Mac and Fenwick were messing around. We played pretty well in the first half, but they came out took it from us in the second. Yeah Berti Voghts was in charge. He was under big fire and the Scots won in Iceland earlier in the week to take some pressure off and then the win over us gave us some breathing room. Had we beat them he might have lost his job. It was also one of McFadden's first caps. Perhaps even his debut. cheers, matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 quote:Originally posted by matthew We were caught shocking flat on the first goal (which was right after the DeRo pk) and Fenwick was culpable on the last two goals. I'm pretty sure it was the second one where Mac and Fenwick were messing around. Not a great day for a lad playing on his home club park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 quote:Originally posted by matthew We were caught shocking flat on the first goal (which was right after the DeRo pk) and Fenwick was culpable on the last two goals. I'm pretty sure it was the second one where Mac and Fenwick were messing around. Not a great day for a lad playing on his home club park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 quote:Originally posted by BearcatSA Not a great day for a lad playing on his home club park. Wearing the arm band . . . I think he was just overwhelmed. DeVos pulled out late after picking up a knock in Plymouth with Wigan. He and McKenna never looked on the same page and Fenwick played almost every ball he got backwards. I like Fenwick. He was an under-rated part of the 2000 Gold Cup run and he lost his club job because of it. But that night in Embra was not a good one. I was in a club Saturday and they played Heaven by DJ Sammy and it took me right back to that windy night at Easter Road. As gutted as I was after that game it was probably my top night with the Vees. cheers, matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyr Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 quote:Originally posted by BearcatSA Was Vogts in charge of Scotland at the time? I was wondering how many of the Scotland line up featured in their recent Euro 2008 qualifying run. Answer: Only McFadden has survived from the Canada game in 2002. SCOTLAND vs. Canada 15/10/02: Paul Gallacher - Maurice Ross (46: Callum Davidson), Lee Wilkie (75: Ian Murray), Steven Pressley, Christian Dailly, Russell Anderson, Graham Alexander, Stephen Crawford (89: Kevin Kyle), Steven Thompson (81: James McFadden), Scot Gemmill (65: Scott Severin), Paul Devlin SCOTLAND vs. Italy 17/11/05: Craig Gordon - David Weir, Gary Andrew Naysmith, Stephen McManus, Alan Hutton, Paul Hartley, Scott Brown (74: Kenny Miller), Darren Fletcher, Lee McCulloch (91: Kris Boyd), Barry Ferguson, James McFadden Unused Substitutes: Allan McGregor, Graham Alexander, Gary Caldwell, Stephen Pearson, Barry Robson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I probably have a tape or DVD transfer of the game somewhere, as well as a copy of the Inside Soccer magazine that featured the game. Yes, Berti Vogts (a good friend of Holger) was the manager for the Tartan Army. And yes Paul Fenwick was partially responsible for the last two Scottish goals, but as I can recall he and McKenna didn't communicate well. I was surprised McKenna was at back rather than the usual Holger-favourite striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I was one of the others at the game along with Matthew, Bill Spiers, N-A and Sigma, who I haven't seen post here in awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Martyr Answer: Only McFadden has survived from the Canada game in 2002. SCOTLAND vs. Canada 15/10/02: Paul Gallacher - Maurice Ross (46: Callum Davidson), Lee Wilkie (75: Ian Murray), Steven Pressley, Christian Dailly, Russell Anderson, Graham Alexander, Stephen Crawford (89: Kevin Kyle), Steven Thompson (81: James McFadden), Scot Gemmill (65: Scott Severin), Paul Devlin SCOTLAND vs. Italy 17/11/05: Craig Gordon - David Weir, Gary Andrew Naysmith, Stephen McManus, Alan Hutton, Paul Hartley, Scott Brown (74: Kenny Miller), Darren Fletcher, Lee McCulloch (91: Kris Boyd), Barry Ferguson, James McFadden Unused Substitutes: Allan McGregor, Graham Alexander, Gary Caldwell, Stephen Pearson, Barry Robson Thanks for the info! I realize that Vogts may have been trying some different players and I can't remember if Weir was not in favoured by the manager at that time or if Ferguson was rested or even healthy. Still, it's interesting to see the turnover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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