Evidence of DeRo's importance

[gkhs]

Something interesting I noted from looking at the recent stats.

With both De Rosario & de Guzman: 4 wins, 2 draws, 3 losses, 16 goals for, 12 against, +4.

Without De Rosario: 1 w, 1 d, 3 l, 3 for, 6 against, -3.

Without de Guzman: 4 w, 1 d, 3 l, 7 for, 6 against, +1.

In all three scenarios, victories have come against opponents of similar quality, but De Rosario seems to play a vital role in avoiding poor results against lesser teams.

When we have had both players on hand our losses have come against teams of high quality, with an average FIFA rank of 15 (USA, Spain, Portugal).

Without de Guzman the ‘quality’ of our losses is notably lower, but is still quite high, average FIFA rank 28 (USA, Honduras and a peaking Costa Rica ranked 24th at the time).

But without De Ro our losses have come against far poorer teams, average FIFA rank 79 (Hungary, Jamaica, South Africa).

Quality of Losses (average rank of opponent)

With Both: 15

Without De Rosario: 79

Without de Guzman: 28

Quality of non-Wins (average rank of opponent)

With Both: 34

Without De Rosario: 86

Without de Guzman: 23

NB. Small sample sizes, obviously, but still interesting to note.

NB. I know FIFA ranking are crap, but still interesting to note.

NB. Guadeloupe is an obvious exception to this trend, but hasn’t been included since they have no FIFA rank.

[Free kick]

Interesting info. Though this is one thing that has become apparent to me as well in the last little while. Namely, that there are 1 or 2 ( maybe three) players that we really cannot do without. Moreso than I had previously thought of in the past.

as far as the reamining pool of MNT players, there is a great deal of interchangeability and difficulty in distinguishing the overall impact of one from the other.

[BearcatSA]

quote:Originally posted by gkhs

In all three scenarios, victories have come against opponents of similar quality, but De Rosario seems to play a vital role in avoiding poor results against lesser teams.

When we have had both players on hand our losses have come against teams of high quality, with an average FIFA rank of 15 (USA, Spain, Portugal).

Without de Guzman the ‘quality’ of our losses is notably lower, but is still quite high, average FIFA rank 28 (USA, Honduras and a peaking Costa Rica ranked 24th at the time).

But without De Ro our losses have come against far poorer teams, average FIFA rank 79 (Hungary, Jamaica, South Africa).

Very interesting data: thanks again for your efforts!

[Daniel]

Yeah, it's great to see a statistical breakdown of our nats. It's not like we'll see it soon inthe mainstream media.

Dero is one of those frustrating players who frustrates the hell out of the fan by trying things that never work (mainly beating 3 men down the wing), then pulls off some ridiculous goal (Costa Rica 2007 and 2004, Guatemala 2004, South Korea 2002, any number of MLS goals).

He seems to plateau, much more effective vs low- and medium-quality teams and mostly innefective against high-quality teams. If only he could pass the ball off more often...

[gkhs]

quote:Originally posted by Daniel

He seems to plateau, much more effective vs low- and medium-quality teams and mostly innefective against high-quality teams. If only he could pass the ball off more often...

I couldn't honestly say whether this is true or not, except to say that he has won three MLS Cups, he certainly showed up well against those high-quality teams.

[BearcatSA]

quote:Originally posted by Daniel

Yeah, it's great to see a statistical breakdown of our nats. It's not like we'll see it soon inthe mainstream media.

Dero is one of those frustrating players who frustrates the hell out of the fan by trying things that never work (mainly beating 3 men down the wing), then pulls off some ridiculous goal (Costa Rica 2007 and 2004, Guatemala 2004, South Korea 2002, any number of MLS goals).

He seems to plateau, much more effective vs low- and medium-quality teams and mostly innefective against high-quality teams. If only he could pass the ball off more often...