gkhs Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 I put together some stats, pulling from a wide variety of sources. (Take them with a grain of salt, since CSA Game Reports are a major source). These are stats for the 23 matches since the last qualifying cycle. Sorry for the awkward format presented here, I can forward a spreadsheet if anyone would like. FWIW, 50 players have been called up since 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 Minutes Played A Hutchin 1681 D De Rosa 1557 P Bernier 1552 J de Guzm 1241 P Stalter 1159 K McKenna 990 Gr Sutton 810 T Radzins 795 A Hainaul 793 Adam Braz 761 Ant Jazic 739 Ali Gerba 728 R Hasting 720 Ro Friend 713 J Simpson 705 G Gervais 677 J Brennan 557 Marc Reda 540 A Serioux 523 Iain Hume 492 M Klukows 490 C Pozniak 472 Ol Occean 461 Pa Onstad 450 Sa Grande 417 Mart Nash 400 L Hirschf 360 K Stamato 360 Dan Imhof 355 I Nak-Far 328 Ja Peters 205 Pat Leduc 173 Ke Harmse 101 S Ademolu 90 T Nsaliwa 90 J Wagenaa 90 I Sulenti 63 A Ribeiro 45 W Johnson 42 N Ledgerw 19 M de Jong 18 R Placent 6 An Ornoch 5 Games Played P Bernier 22 A Hutchin 20 D De Rosa 18 J de Guzm 15 Ali Gerba 14 P Stalter 13 K McKenna 12 Iain Hume 12 J Simpson 11 Adam Braz 11 T Radzins 10 Ro Friend 10 Ant Jazic 10 Ol Occean 9 Gr Sutton 9 C Pozniak 9 A Hainaul 9 Sa Grande 8 R Hasting 8 Ja Peters 8 J Brennan 8 I Nak-Far 8 G Gervais 8 A Serioux 8 Mart Nash 7 M Klukows 7 Marc Reda 6 Pa Onstad 5 Ke Harmse 5 Dan Imhof 5 W Johnson 4 L Hirschf 4 K Stamato 4 Pat Leduc 3 S Ademolu 2 T Nsaliwa 1 R Placent 1 N Ledgerw 1 M de Jong 1 J Wagenaa 1 I Sulenti 1 An Ornoch 1 A Ribeiro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 Goals Ali Gerba 5 D De Rosa 5 A Hutchin 2 Iain Hume 2 J de Guzm 2 K McKenna 2 Ol Occean 2 T Radzins 2 J Brennan 1 Marc Reda 1 P Stalter 1 Ro Friend 1 Sa Grande 1 Minutes Per Goal Ali Gerba 146 Ol Occean 231 Iain Hume 246 D De Rosa 311 T Radzins 398 Sa Grande 417 K McKenna 495 Marc Reda 540 J Brennan 557 J de Guzm 621 Ro Friend 713 A Hutchin 841 P Stalter 1159 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 Yellow Cards P Bernier 5 P Stalter 5 A Serioux 4 J de Guzm 4 A Hutchin 3 D De Rosa 3 K McKenna 3 G Gervais 2 Marc Reda 2 Adam Braz 1 Ali Gerba 1 A Hainaul 1 Iain Hume 1 J Brennan 1 J Simpson 1 Mart Nash 1 R Hasting 1 Ro Friend 1 Sa Grande 1 T Radzins 1 Ejections P Stalter 1 A Serioux 1 K McKenna 1 G Gervais 1 Minutes Per Caution T Radzins 795 A Hainaul 793 Adam Braz 761 Ali Gerba 728 R Hasting 720 Ro Friend 713 J Simpson 705 A Hutchin 560 J Brennan 557 D De Rosa 519 Iain Hume 492 Sa Grande 417 Mart Nash 400 G Gervais 339 K McKenna 330 P Bernier 310 J de Guzm 310 Marc Reda 270 P Stalter 232 A Serioux 131 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 Appearances as Starter A Hutchin 20 D De Rosa 18 P Bernier 17 J de Guzm 15 P Stalter 13 K McKenna 12 Gr Sutton 9 T Radzins 9 A Hainaul 9 Ant Jazic 9 Ali Gerba 9 Adam Braz 8 R Hasting 8 Ro Friend 7 J Simpson 7 G Gervais 6 J Brennan 6 Marc Reda 6 A Serioux 6 M Klukows 6 C Pozniak 6 Iain Hume 5 Ol Occean 5 Pa Onstad 5 Sa Grande 5 Mart Nash 5 K Stamato 4 L Hirschf 4 Dan Imhof 4 I Nak-Far 2 Pat Leduc 2 Ja Peters 1 Ke Harmse 1 J Wagenaa 1 S Ademolu 1 T Nsaliwa 1 I Sulenti 1 Appearances as Sub Iain Hume 7 Ja Peters 7 I Nak-Far 6 P Bernier 5 Ali Gerba 5 J Simpson 4 Ol Occean 4 Ke Harmse 4 Adam Braz 3 Ro Friend 3 C Pozniak 3 Sa Grande 3 G Gervais 2 J Brennan 2 A Serioux 2 Mart Nash 2 A Ribeiro 1 T Radzins 1 Ant Jazic 1 M Klukows 1 Dan Imhof 1 Pat Leduc 1 S Ademolu 1 Unused Sub C Pozniak 6 Adam Braz 5 Iain Hume 5 K Stamato 5 Rhi Dodds 5 R Giacomi 5 Gr Sutton 4 Mi Franks 4 I Nak-Far 3 A Ribeiro 3 A Hainaul 2 J Brennan 2 Marc Reda 2 Pat Leduc 2 Ke Harmse 2 J Wagenaa 2 A Begovic 2 A Hutchin 1 Ant Jazic 1 Ali Gerba 1 R Hasting 1 G Gervais 1 Ol Occean 1 Sa Grande 1 Mart Nash 1 L Hirschf 1 Ja Peters 1 Dav Edgar 1 Ma Watson 1 N Pizzoli 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 A few interesting stats. Dodds has been called in the side 5 times without being match capped. DeRo has 5 goals from his last 8 appearances, spanning 607 minutes. Gerba has 5 goals from his last 11 appearances, spanning 605 minutes. Serioux has cooled down on the fouls with 1 in his last 4 appearances, spanning 319 minutes. Stalteri has gone the other direction with 5 fouls from 9 appearances, or 1 every 162 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Very nice, thanks for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Yeah, this is fantastic...we should have this in a locked thread somewhere, with full names and an easy to read format in case media types or casual fans would like to know the exact details and names for each stat. Great stuff. I had forgotten how much guys like Braz had played for Canada in recent years, and also how few minutes so many of our key players have played as of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Spiers Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 quote:Originally posted by gkhs I put together some stats, pulling from a wide variety of sources. (Take them with a grain of salt, since CSA Game Reports are a major source. Have you used this as a source as well? CSA Media Guide This was published in June 2007. It's difficult to read on-line so it's best to print it out in a book format. But read the instructions first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Bill Spiers Have you used this as a source as well? CSA Media Guide This was published in June 2007. It's difficult to read on-line so it's best to print it out in a book format. But read the instructions first! I have looked at this source, but I didn't consult it when I was compiling these stats...I have too little faith in the CSA on this score. I found a couple of articles and game reports for each match and built this from those. (The only info I was missing was the numbers worn against Portugal in 2005.) All of this info exists in spreadsheet form (with proper names) I just didn't know a better way to post it, and have it display legibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 quote:Originally posted by gkhs Serioux has cooled down on the fouls with 1 in his last 4 appearances, spanning 319 minutes. Stalteri has gone the other direction with 5 fouls from 9 appearances, or 1 every 162 minutes. Are you referring to actual fouls committed or only ones that resulted in bookings? (BTW, thanks also for the stats!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 quote:Originally posted by BearcatSA Are you referring to actual fouls committed or only ones that resulted in bookings? (BTW, thanks also for the stats!) Fair point. Just cards received. I wish there were a way to track more stats, like fouls committed and drawn, shots taken and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 You mean the computer systems that European club sides use to track an individual player's performance? I can't remember what it's referred to as now, but I believe it was called Optima. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 quote:Originally posted by BearcatSA You mean the computer systems that European club sides use to track an individual player's performance? I can't remember what it's referred to as now, but I believe it was called Optima. I would settle for less than that...even the stats collected for MLSNET. http://toronto.fc.mlsnet.com/t280/stats/index.jsp?club=t280 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 One of the glaring conclusions: we need our strikers to score. Besides Ali, not ONE striker has scored more than 2 goals in the 3 years since the last cycle. If they're not scoring, we're not winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Daniel One of the glaring conclusions: we need our strikers to score. Besides Ali, not ONE striker has scored more than 2 goals in the 3 years since the last cycle. If they're not scoring, we're not winning. It should also be noted that besides Gerba, there are no 'true' strikers (I am not including Hume, Radz, De Ro) who have had more than 7 appearances as a starter. In most games, De Rosario was playing in an advanced position (out wide in the 4-5-1/4-3-3) and depending on the terminology you use, could be considered a forward. Canada scored in every match in 2007 except South Africa (with Dwayne a notable absence), so scoring isn't the big worry it has been in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Think I found a correction. A Ribeiro did make 1 appearance as a sub, against Venezuela. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Daniel One of the glaring conclusions: we need our strikers to score. Besides Ali, not ONE striker has scored more than 2 goals in the 3 years since the last cycle. If they're not scoring, we're not winning. That's discouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted December 3, 2007 Author Share Posted December 3, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Soju Think I found a correction. A Ribeiro did make 1 appearance as a sub, against Venezuela. I had conflicting info on that, the CSA report says he came on (but doesn't say when or for whom) and another report I found doesn't list him. Do you know which minute he came on, or who was subbed off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted December 3, 2007 Author Share Posted December 3, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Daniel One of the glaring conclusions: we need our strikers to score. Besides Ali, not ONE striker has scored more than 2 goals in the 3 years since the last cycle. If they're not scoring, we're not winning. Occean's rate isn't horrible...especially with the prospect of him playing alongside Gerba, De Ro and Radz/Hume A lineup like this: ------Occean---Gerba De Ro----------------Hume ------JDG-----Hutch JB--Whoever----McK--Stalt Is good for 2.33 goals per 90 minutes at these rates. I know we haven't been playing 2 upfront...but still not horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 It looks like Hutch's goal against the US didn't make the stat list, nor Friend's against Venezuela.[V] And four of Gerba and DeRo's five each were scored in and around gold cup, with them each getting 3 in the tournament and one in the Venezuela game. Not sure what to make of that other than that those two were on fire in june. Also, I saw in the list that Brennan only has one goal, but didn't he score twice in Austria? or did he just get one of those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Friend didnt score against Venezuela, Hume scored against US, Hutch's was the disallowed goal, Brennan scored once against Austria, Reda got the other off Brennan shot deflection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 quote:Originally posted by gkhs I had conflicting info on that, the CSA report says he came on (but doesn't say when or for whom) and another report I found doesn't list him. Do you know which minute he came on, or who was subbed off? He came on at half time in that match, for Kevin Harmse. He was definitely there, and I remember him being involved in the tying goal. CANADA: Greg Sutton, Adam Braz (Issey Nakajima-Farran, 57), Ante Jazic, Kevin Harmse (Antonio Ribeiro, 46), Richard Hasting, Gabriel Gervais, Julian de Guzman, Dwayne de Rosario (Patrice Bernier, 69), Paul Stalteri, Atiba Hutchinson (Martin Nash, 74), Rod Friend (Ali Gerba, 82). I notice you list his minutes played and as appearing in 1 game, but with no starts or substitute appearances. As far as I know, those 45 minutes represent his only playing time for Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 quote:Friend didnt score against Venezuela, Hume scored against US, Hutch's was the disallowed goal I guess my sarcasm there wasn't very obvious. Friend had a goal called back against Venezuela if you recall, though it didn't get near the attention of Hutch's against the US. The CSA really should have a stat category of disallowed goals. I'd be interested to see what our minutes per disallowed goals is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Who is An. Ornoch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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