Do you know this player?

[rick10]

Hey guys

Here is a vid of one of my buddies, Jason Quezada.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ67y_J7QPM

For who don't know him he played in dixie, 1 year in monaco france,1 year in chile and now he is just doing freestyle and playing for some teams in ontario

He is very good playing soccer too, he was in the under 20 national team at some point too

He is 22

[messi1986]

How do you know jay?

We used to played together at Dixie before he went to France. He is a very skillfull player. It is sad that our national program picked bad players and left players like jay out.

[tarnado1555362291]

maybe he should try out for Toronto FC come December. He is still young and could have a decent chance of making it.

[rick10]

quote:Originally posted by messi1986

How do you know jay?

We used to played together at Dixie before he went to France. He is a very skillfull player. It is sad that our national program picked bad players and left players like jay out.

We played together a couple of times. Yes he is very skillfull

[rick10]

quote:Originally posted by tarnado

maybe he should try out for Toronto FC come December. He is still young and could have a decent chance of making it.

If the kid Lombardo and David Guzman made it to the toronto fc jason should make it no problem. However I believe he has a contract now with Nike ( or redbull from new york) , so I do not see that happening. Although it would be nice to see a player his type for a change in toronto fc

[VPjr]

He likely makes much more freestyling than he would on a DEV contract with TFC.

[RS]

I think the Toronto Raptors should sign those guys that spin, like, four basketballs on various points of their body at once...

[tarnado1555362291]

I'm just saying TFC could use some players with ball skills.

[rick10]

quote:Originally posted by VPjr

He likely makes much more freestyling than he would on a DEV contract with TFC.

I seen this guy played against players such as david guzman and let me tell you this guy is a lot better skill wise. Plus remember that he was playing in Monaco france under 20 , chile and at some point he was part of the under 20 national program .So its not just freestyling he does

I am not saying he is ronaldihno or anything like that , but with the proper trainning he could easily play for the toronto fc ( and for a change, it will be nice to see someone of his skills)

He was offer a contract with a team from the CPSL sometime ago which he turned down because Nike pays him a lot more and he gets to go around the world.

This is just an example of the talent we have in canada and we are not taking advantage. There is other players I can mention that can play ( if train properly) in the toronto fc.

The toronto fc needs an academy of some kind ( maybe join the cpsl or something) where they can have youngster developing their skills so that they can be use in the future

[Soju]

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=2kMH8StcDG4&feature=related

Here he is in competition in New York. I guess he's nervous in this video it doesn't quite go off for him.

[rick10]

quote:Originally posted by Soju

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=2kMH8StcDG4&feature=related

Here he is in competition in New York. I guess he's nervous in this video it doesn't quite go off for him.

yea he improved a lot since that video. Back then he was just starting freestilyn in front of people.

[Soju]

It's good to see Nike/Redbull/etc. are wise to street football and how to get urban youth interested. These freestyle shows with DJs get people watching and gets them seeing how much fun Soccer is. Keep pushing like this and build some futsal courts next to the basketball courts in inner cities, one day America will be pumping out flair players too. It's cool I hope Jayzinho keeps it up!

p.s. Anyone who thinks developing the touch, timing and balance necessary to be a good freestyler doesn't translate into "real football" needs to look no further than any of today's star players. This is the future of the sport.

[RS]

quote:Originally posted by rick10

with the proper trainning he could easily play for the toronto fc

Easily play for Toronto FC? Do realize just how few people can even make the development roster for an MLS team? (Even the last-placed one)

If this guy is so good why is he not playing somewhere right now? Surely someone that could walk onto the TFC roster (with a bit of training) is a surefire bet to waltz onto, say, the Impact and completely dominate the USL. Then he could be transferred to a bigger club, and his freestyle contract at Nike would look like a pittance!

The reason this guy isn't playing legitimate pro soccer is the same reason the guys on the Harlem Globetrotters don't play in the NBA. Sizzle needs to be accompanied by steak.

quote:p.s. Anyone who thinks developing the touch, timing and balance necessary to be a good freestyler doesn't translate into "real football" needs to look no further than any of today's star players.

Or perhaps today's star players can do all of the tricks that these freestylers can do, AND play in an actual match at some sort of speed.

[redhat]

I'm sure he's talented. As for being over-looked by the CSA, well unfortunately

that's life. Being overlooked, cut, benched, or rejected didn't stop players like

Julian De Guzman, Olivier Occean, Thunder Dan, or any other player currently playing

at a high level.

Work harder, accept responsibility for yourself, get a good agent,

and hook up with teams that would help your progress. Then prove others wrong.

[RS]

quote:Originally posted by redhat

I'm sure he's talented. As for being over-looked by the CSA, well unfortunately

that's life. Being overlooked, cut, benched, or rejected didn't stop players like

Julian De Guzman, Olivier Occean, Thunder Dan, or any other player currently playing

at a high level.

Work harder, accept responsibility for yourself, get a good agent,

and hook up with teams that would help your progress. Then prove others wrong.

This man speaks the truth

[Grizzly]

If he was overlooked by the CSA he was also overlooked by Monaco and his Chilean team because at some point they also didn't think it was worth keeping him around.

[nolando]

quote:Originally posted by Rudi

The reason this guy isn't playing legitimate pro soccer is the same reason the guys on the Harlem Globetrotters don't play in the NBA. Sizzle needs to be accompanied by steak.

Quote of the year in my opinion.

[VPjr]

remember, Marseille gave up on Julian DeGuzman and told him he would never be a professional in Europe. Do you think they wish now that they didn't give up on him.

The reality is that lots of talented kids don't get a chance. Determination and attitude seperate the ones that make it from the one's that don't. The being said, this young man could very well be good enough to earn a DEV spot with TFC. The question would be why he would bother if he has a good deal with nike to travel the world freestyling. If this young man REALLY wanted to play 11v11 soccer, he would not freestyle but rather would dedicate himself to being the best soccer player he could be. This is no slight against him. It's just the reality that not everyone with outstanding talent has the burning desire to get the most out of their talent. It's not a matter of the system wasting the opportunity to turn him into a star. He doesn't want it bad enough but that's cool because I'm not sure the DEV Roster lifestyle is for everyone.

I, for one, wish Jason the best of luck with his freestyling. I am sure he will have a great time doing it and will pocket some nice coin in the process

[RS]

quote:Originally posted by VPjr

I, for one, wish Jason the best of luck with his freestyling. I am sure he will have a great time doing it and will pocket some nice coin in the process

I echo this sentiment, just in case anyone is getting the wrong impression by my previous posts in this thread.

I might have come across strongly, but only because I've grown tired of seeing countless posts by people claiming that their (friend, cousin, neighbour, long lost twin) is good enough to play at a high level, but don't because of being slighted by the system.

[Soju]

"Or perhaps today's star players can do all of the tricks that these freestylers can do, AND play in an actual match at some sort of speed."

Yes. My point was that at the top level these kinds of skills separate the Ronaldos from the Nevilles. My point wasn't that these skills exclusively make a footballer, nor that freestylers are necessarily good at 11aside.

[rick10]

quote:Originally posted by redhat

I'm sure he's talented. As for being over-looked by the CSA, well unfortunately

that's life. Being overlooked, cut, benched, or rejected didn't stop players like

Julian De Guzman, Olivier Occean, Thunder Dan, or any other player currently playing

at a high level.

Work harder, accept responsibility for yourself, get a good agent,

and hook up with teams that would help your progress. Then prove others wrong.

That is very true. I know many good players that have put aside becoming a soccer player because they choose to go to university ( scholarships) , or in this case just get pay to do freestyle. My point is that other countries ( Argentina, Chile, mexico , nowdays USA, europe) have scouts going around the country looking for players like that ( skillfull as jason) and getting them into a club program so that they do not end up doing something else.

I agree with you it is a player responsability but sometimes they need the guidance (scouts, coaches , parents) to take it to the next level. Unfortunately that does not exist in canada , or if it does it can not compare to other countries.

[rick10]

quote:Originally posted by Grizzly

If he was overlooked by the CSA he was also overlooked by Monaco and his Chilean team because at some point they also didn't think it was worth keeping him around.

The samething could be easily sait about Lombado and David Guzman for example.

These two players were left behind by foreign clubs and then taken by the toronto fc.

That doesnt mean they are not worth it, does it?

[rick10]

Easily play for Toronto FC? Do realize just how few people can even make the development roster for an MLS team? (Even the last-placed one)

I'm going to put an example here. I pick on this guy because I actually know him and play with him

David Guzman made it to the MLS when he could not even make it to any first division team in Peru (and peruvian league is like one of the worst in southamerica)so I am not sure how hard it is to make it to the MLS.

If this guy is so good why is he not playing somewhere right now? Surely someone that could walk onto the TFC roster (with a bit of training) is a surefire bet to waltz onto, say, the Impact and completely dominate the USL. Then he could be transferred to a bigger club, and his freestyle contract at Nike would look like a pittance!

I never said he is that good. I put him as an example of a player that had potential to grow.I heard so many complaints on how the under 20 national team was lacking foot skills etc etc etc.I am just showing an example of someone that was drop from the national program; mostly because of his size (5"8)

The reason this guy isn't playing legitimate pro soccer is the same reason the guys on the Harlem Globetrotters don't play in the NBA. Sizzle needs to be accompanied by steak.

Once again , he is not just a freestyler. He had played on the national program, Dixie, Monaco under 20 , under 20 in a club in chile

[rick10]

quote:Originally posted by VPjr

remember, Marseille gave up on Julian DeGuzman and told him he would never be a professional in Europe. Do you think they wish now that they didn't give up on him.

The reality is that lots of talented kids don't get a chance. Determination and attitude seperate the ones that make it from the one's that don't. The being said, this young man could very well be good enough to earn a DEV spot with TFC. The question would be why he would bother if he has a good deal with nike to travel the world freestyling. If this young man REALLY wanted to play 11v11 soccer, he would not freestyle but rather would dedicate himself to being the best soccer player he could be. This is no slight against him. It's just the reality that not everyone with outstanding talent has the burning desire to get the most out of their talent. It's not a matter of the system wasting the opportunity to turn him into a star. He doesn't want it bad enough but that's cool because I'm not sure the DEV Roster lifestyle is for everyone.

I, for one, wish Jason the best of luck with his freestyling. I am sure he will have a great time doing it and will pocket some nice coin in the process

The desire was there when he was younger. Thats the reason he went to france to play soccer and then to chile.

You can not really blame the program , however being on the national program ( national team) and being able to show your skills on an international level can really help you get better chances at international clubs ( or MLS)

There is not argument that he did not wanted it bad enough, and than he should of probably stayed longer in france or chile. But this is just an example of how canadian kids with a lot of talent leave soccer (professionally) at a younger age.

[jimmynow]

quote:Originally posted by rick10

David Guzman made it to the MLS when he could not even make it to any first division team in Peru (and peruvian league is like one of the worst in southamerica)so I am not sure how hard it is to make it to the MLS.

It's very hard to make the MLS. David Guzman never played.

David Guzman did not play a single minute for TFC -- a TFC team that was riddled with injuries, had a record scoreless streak, and finished dead last in the league. 17 and 18 year olds with much more promise played ahead of him.

David Guzman should not be used as any sort of comparison for this freestyler guy. Guzman was a place filler. They needed some bodies to sit on the development roster and that's it.