ob1 Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 what could this mean for Canada and it's foreign players? FIFA president Sepp Blatter wants to reintroduce limits on foreigners playing in national soccer leagues, a move which amounts to a direct challenge to European Union authorities. By the 2010-11 league season, Blatter is aiming to have a system where a team's starting lineup would have six homegrown players. full artical on CBC website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boban1 Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 quote:Originally posted by ob1 what could this mean for Canada and it's foreign players? FIFA president Sepp Blatter wants to reintroduce limits on foreigners playing in national soccer leagues, a move which amounts to a direct challenge to European Union authorities. By the 2010-11 league season, Blatter is aiming to have a system where a team's starting lineup would have six homegrown players. full artical on CBC website. It shouldn't affect Canadian based teams really. His comments and wishes are more geared towards Europe. And as far as I am concerned, I think its about time someone did something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest speedmonk42 Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 quote:Originally posted by boban1 It shouldn't affect Canadian based teams really. His comments and wishes are more geared towards Europe. And as far as I am concerned, I think its about time someone did something about it. Yeah, but it could decimate the future of many Canadians in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxl Boy Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 In fact, the number of foreign players will still remain unlimited in the squad (but will be of five on the field) It's still less restrictive than the USL rules (I don't know the MLS ones) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 While it certainly could hurt the fortunes of some Canadians playing overseas, it might strengthen professional soccer in North America, which is important. This policy would affect Americans overseas just as much as Canadians and might result in alot of marginal guys coming home to play in MLS, which in turn would push current MLS quality players into USL1. While I would hate to see Canadians lose their jobs in Europe, i really think it would only impact a small number of them and many of them will be guys who either play in smaller countries or those who don't play much. I doubt this will get very far though. The EU is pretty confident that the Bosman ruling gives them the authority to brush Sepp off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto Ruffrider Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Bxl Boy In fact, the number of foreign players will still remain unlimited in the squad (but will be of five on the field) It's still less restrictive than the USL rules (I don't know the MLS ones) In MLS, teams allowed to carry up to 4 senior internationals (players 25 and older as of the MLS Cup match) and an additional 3 youth internationals (players under 25). If need be, an SI spot can be used on a YI, but not the other way around. In Toronto's case, we are allowed the same number of SIs but we get an additional two YI spots because we are an expansion team. We are also allowed 3 additional SIs who would be considered domestic players on other MLS teams (i.e. we are allowed another 3 Americans). Confused yet? I don't blame you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxl Boy Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 That's rather a stupid rule ! If you have, for example, 3 “YI” of 24 years, you MUST put three foreigners out the next season. What a way to build a team ! Instead (just a suggestion after 30 seconds of reflexion), force to have at least 6 players under 23 (figures can be changed, of courtse) on the game sheet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Oranje Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Don't think Blatter can do much about the labour migration within the European Union. That is a legal issue and not something European football can do anything about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Canuck Oranje Don't think Blatter can do much about the labour migration within the European Union. That is a legal issue and not something European football can do anything about. he might feel the EU will change its position on soccer players with influx of new EU members...perhaps making the Div 1 in each nation have a limitation.. and the lower levels open to anyone... it clearly presents a problem for naitonal development in countries that are more ...wealthy ..the young player from England is unlikely to go to Poland to play in the lower leagues or in the highest division for the money available... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto Ruffrider Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Bxl Boy That's rather a stupid rule ! If you have, for example, 3 “YI” of 24 years, you MUST put three foreigners out the next season. What a way to build a team ! Instead (just a suggestion after 30 seconds of reflexion), force to have at least 6 players under 23 (figures can be changed, of courtse) on the game sheet... I'm not much a fan of the rule, either. It would be much simpler for MLS to allow teams to carry a set number of international players, regardless of age. Quirky rules such as this one are par for the course in MLS, though. Don't get me started on that league's allocation system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Quirky rules or otherwise, MLS has not only survived longer than any other continental USA/Canada professional league but appears to be thriving right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto Ruffrider Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Richard Quirky rules or otherwise, MLS has not only survived longer than any other continental USA/Canada professional league but appears to be thriving right now. MLS has done a lot of things right. Unlike the NASL, MLS is expanding slowly and it is keeping player salaries down with its salary cap. MLS also mandates that new teams must have plans in place to build soccer-specific stadiums. This latter note is particularly significant, as such facilities help teams control revenues and expenses, as well as generate more favourable sporting atmospheres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Oranje Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Don't see the EU getting together to tighten labour migration rules. If anything the greater trend will be to relax them further in a controlled fashion. On soccer in Europe, those who would be in favour of special rules for sport would be the smaller national leagues rather than the big five leagues, where teams benefit from the worldwide exposure that comes from having the best players playing in that league. Also, a move such as this would make a decision by the CSA board look simple to acheive. Consider comment found in a FT.com article on this issue: "The Commission is opposed to exempting sports clubs from competition rules, and says an overhaul of the current regime would require the unanimous support of 27 EU governments." On MLS and NASL, the NASL was around from 1968 to 1984 so MLS still needs to exist for a few years more before it can claim to be around sooner. Another point to consider is that the environment around soccer in North America today is much different than that in the 1970s. That environment favours the MLS. While the MLS has made some careful decisions, it is time for the league to open up and decentralize. Single-entity ownership will someday be successfully challenged by players because the structure is anti-competitive. Salary caps need to rise more quickly, especially with a sinking US dollar so that it can keep domestic players at home and attract more to the league. The league is at a point in its development where it needs to choose what it wants to be. It can be a minor development league or it can choose to be a major league in the world. Currently, it remains a minor development league when the global perspective is taken. quote:Originally posted by Trillium he might feel the EU will change its position on soccer players with influx of new EU members...perhaps making the Div 1 in each nation have a limitation.. and the lower levels open to anyone... it clearly presents a problem for naitonal development in countries that are more ...wealthy ..the young player from England is unlikely to go to Poland to play in the lower leagues or in the highest division for the money available... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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