ag futbol Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 I think where people’s concern is coming from is that for players without resources, the national team program is somehow becoming a gateway for players to get into professional sides where they can develop. Compare that to France where it’s much more of a free market, you could completely ignore the national team if you wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trochej Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 quote:Originally posted by TheBeautifulGame Fabian is still listed on the U-17 5th division extended squad of Defensor, I say extended because 5th division is the first level in Uruguayan juvenile soccer comprising 2 age groups (16/17.) He's listed as one of about 15 midfielders to give you an idea of the size of the squad. Not sure if he is getting official game time but I'll try to find out. As a footnote, my son trained with Defensor U14 six years ago for about 6 months when he was between clubs due to school scheduling issues. They run an excellent player development program 6 days a week but getting official playing time for weekend games is tough due to many factors (agents / cronyism / etc) that I won't go into at this time. Suffice to say that someone in Canada should keep in touch with Fabian. If he returns to Canada, the preparation he will have received here in Uruguay will help him immensely and give him a different combination of advanced skills and better knowledge of international play. Edited for keyboard hiccup Hi I'm Fabian's dad. I'm new at this. It was present to me buy a friend and he was the one that posted Fabian over a year a go. Just to keep you inform, Fabian still with Defensor. He didn't play an official game yet. Just like TheBeautifulGame posted "extended because 5th division is the first level in Uruguayan juvenile soccer comprising 2 age groups (16/17.) He's listed as one of about 15 midfielders to give you an idea of the size of the squad." He does friendly games and yes he trains 6 times a week. He's coming back to Canada around the 10th of December for a month. PS these forums and traking of our kids and soccer his great. Great Job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Thanks for coming on here Juan. Good luck to Fabian with his career at Defensor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Updated GK: Jaswinder Gill (89) U. of Alberta Michal Misiewicz (90) Plymouth Julien Latendresse-Levesque (91) Metz Adam Street (91) West Ham Robert Stillo (91) Genoa Defenders: Nana Attakora-Gyan (89) Toronto FC Gabe Gala (89) Toronto FC Kennedy Owusu-Ansah (89) Hertha BSC Olivier Lacoste-Lebuis (90) Strasbourg Alex Martinez (89) Atlas Randy Edwini-Bonsu (90) Vancouver Eddy Sidra (89) Energie Cottbus Philippe Davies (90) Vancouver Tomasz Machul (?) 1860 München Greg Smith (90) Vancouver Adam Straith (90) Vancouver Midfielders: Michael Nonni (89) Groningen Matt Lam (89) Ajax Amsterdam Kyle Bekker (90) Ajax Amsterdam Shaun Saiko (89) Middlesborough Brandon Bonifacio (89) Cambuur-Leuwarden Joey Melo (89) Toronto FC Michael Pereira (89) Providence Dane Roberts (89) Furman Sean Rosa (90) Metz Devin Gunenc (90) Vancouver Mohommed Sylla (90) Unattached(NTC-ONT?) Alex Semenets (90) Vancouver Marcus Johnstone (90) Vancouver Abde Sylla (92) Metz Derek Gaudet (89) Unattached(NTC-ATL?) Teal Bunbury (90) US-ODP/Apple Valley Antonio Rago (90) Vancouver Forwards: David Hoillett Jr. (90) Blackburn Reid Fraser (89) Sheffield W. Marcus Haber (89) Groningen Robbie Giezen (89) Groningen Todd Rutledge (89) Fairfield Kyle Porter (90) Vancouver Jarek Whiteman (90) Vancouver Chris Sherrife (90) Unattached(NTC-ONT?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaucho Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Is Reid Fraser still officially affiliated with Sheffield? I hear he might be looking to go to college in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Gaucho Is Reid Fraser still officially affiliated with Sheffield? I hear he might be looking to go to college in the US. Not sure about Fraser. Someone wrote that he'd be back from England before the summer started, but then someone recently posted that he'd be playing for their U19 Academy team in 07/08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeF Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 There is some serious skill and depth on that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Tomasz Machul is an 89 and THIS JUST IN -- apparently has 5 caps at the youth level for Poland. http://www.tsv1860.de/?id=6729 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid-Tone Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Todd Rutledge is at Fairfield University, and not at Furman. It's fellow Londoner (and former teammate) Haris Cekic that's a freshman at Furman. Cekic is actually 3rd in scoring on the Furman team that's currently ranked 17th in the US. Cekic is an "88" and thus is too old for this next cycle. He probably should have been on this last U20 team, but unfortunately for him he's from London and not Toronto, so he never really had much of a chance to be selected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid-Tone Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 actually Dane Roberts is at Furman, and not at Fairfield. somehow it looks like you've swapped those two schools names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 I got the school info. from the list compiled by Andrew W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kpo Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 quote:Originally posted by jpg75 Anyone have any details on Fabian Troche at Defensor Sporting in Uruguay? Anyone know anything about these other youngsters?: Justin Isidro - Vit�ria Set�bal Michael Abusabal - Bolognesi (Peru) Cody Cook and Oscar Aguero - Energie Cottbus Octavio Maginnis-Castro - Peterborough United http://www.voetbalprimeur.nl/index.php?t=news&id=64196&c=1 looks like octavio maginnis is going to sign with vitesse after the winter break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 As reported in this article ( www.insidesoccer.net/?p=829 ), the first U-20 camp is schedule for August 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 thx for the update JPG. How here's the real question: would anyone like to take a shot in the dark about a possible first team lineup and formations? Also, any chance this gruop is better on paper than the 07 pool? I'd take a guess, but my knowledge is limited to players who we saw at the last u-20 plus only a few others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 quote:Originally posted by ag futbol thx for the update JPG. How here's the real question: would anyone like to take a shot in the dark about a possible first team lineup and formations? Also, any chance this gruop is better on paper than the 07 pool? I'd take a guess, but my knowledge is limited to players who we saw at the last u-20 plus only a few others. My gut tells me that this crop is as good as the last--maybe a bit better--but the only real test of quality will be to see how they perfrom against quality oponents in real competition. We got so hyped up about our last group and I think it would be silly to do the same again next go around. Let's get excited, sure, but let's be reasonable in our expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 quote:Originally posted by ag futbol thx for the update JPG. How here's the real question: would anyone like to take a shot in the dark about a possible first team lineup and formations? Also, any chance this gruop is better on paper than the 07 pool? I'd take a guess, but my knowledge is limited to players who we saw at the last u-20 plus only a few others. You're welcome.. BTW, Edwini-Bonsu is a forward, i think he was listed as a D at some point which is why i had him in that position. GK: Jaswinder Gill (89) U. of Alberta Michal Misiewicz (90) Plymouth Julien Latendresse-Levesque (91) Metz Adam Street (91) West Ham Robert Stillo (91) Genoa Defenders: Nana Attakora-Gyan (89) Toronto FC Gabe Gala (89) Toronto FC Kennedy Owusu-Ansah (89) Hertha BSC Olivier Lacoste-Lebuis (90) Strasbourg Octavio Maginnis-Castro (90) Vitesse Arnhem Alex Martinez (89) Atlas Nik Giannota (89) Hibernian Eddy Sidra (89) Energie Cottbus Philippe Davies (90) Vancouver Tomasz Machul (89) 1860 München Greg Smith (90) Vancouver Adam Straith (90) Vancouver Midfielders: Michael Nonni (89) Groningen Matt Lam (89) Ajax Amsterdam Kyle Bekker (90) Ajax Amsterdam Shaun Saiko (89) Middlesborough Brandon Bonifacio (89) Cambuur-Leuwarden Joey Melo (89) Toronto FC Michael Pereira (89) Providence Dane Roberts (89) Furman Sean Rosa (90) Metz Devin Gunenc (90) Vancouver Mohommed Sylla (90) Unattached(NTC-ONT?) Alex Semenets (90) Vancouver Marcus Johnstone (90) Vancouver Abde Sylla (92) Metz Derek Gaudet (89) Unattached(NTC-ATL?) Teal Bunbury (90) US-ODP/Apple Valley Antonio Rago (90) Vancouver Fabian Troche (90) Defensor Sporting Forwards: David Hoillett Jr. (90) Paderborn 07 Randy Edwini-Bonsu (90) Vancouver Reid Fraser (89) VMSL Marcus Haber (89) Groningen Robbie Giezen (89) Groningen Todd Rutledge (89) Fairfield Kyle Porter (90) Vancouver Jarek Whiteman (90) Vancouver Chris Sherrife (90) Unattached(NTC-ONT?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 i think the pool is deeper that the last group, i am not sure whether they have the 3 or 4 stars that will make the difference. for example, the last group had a pretty good core in Edgar, Johnson, and Peters who all had some first team experience at a pretty high level. this side doesn't really have any one as of yet who has that experience. most are not even playing for their reserves side. of course, there is still 18 months to go before the World Cup so a few of them (TFC players for example) may get it. Bonifacio is one who is playing regularly first team if dutch division 2 and performing well by all accounts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Need to add defender Octavio Castro McGinnis (90) Vitesse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Ivan Need to add defender Octavio Castro McGinnis (90) Vitesse Crap, i thought i had...isn't he an '89 though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Thought he was a 90 but not 100 % sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCF08 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Maginnis hasnt signed yet though for Vitesse ? He is still at Peterborough to my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWAC Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Octavio is a 1990. Randall (Edwini-Bonsu) is a forward. Michal is a 1990. U16 Reese Cup Gold Medalists, Alberta 1990s: Back row, first player on left is Ethan Gage, 1991, Whitecaps fourth player is Randall Front row third player is Marcus Johnstone, fourth player is Antonio Rago, sixth player is Michal M, seventh is Octavio Maginnis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANC2 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Have we learned nothing from the U20 Tournament that just passed. Our players are not of the standard, simple as that. Most may be with clbs in Europe, but they are fillers at best;certainly not may stay players. Edgar, Peters, Oconnor all of them were not even close to what was on display. Mitchell had the best prepared squad ever and not a single player stood out (don't even mention the team) Canada must understand that it needs a league and below that a development league for its young players. This is why Canada dominates at Junior hockey. Then and only then can National coaches really scout players, playing against decent opposition on a regular basis. Getting players together for some International games and then playing tournaments is like rolling dice. Soccer just does not matter to Canadians so we will never be competitive in the sport. If it mattered we would have our own league and not go begging to the Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnipeg Fury Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 quote:Originally posted by ANC2 Have we learned nothing from the U20 Tournament that just passed. Our players are not of the standard, simple as that. Most may be with clbs in Europe, but they are fillers at best;certainly not may stay players. Edgar, Peters, Oconnor all of them were not even close to what was on display. Mitchell had the best prepared squad ever and not a single player stood out (don't even mention the team) Canada must understand that it needs a league and below that a development league for its young players. This is why Canada dominates at Junior hockey. Then and only then can National coaches really scout players, playing against decent opposition on a regular basis. Getting players together for some International games and then playing tournaments is like rolling dice. Soccer just does not matter to Canadians so we will never be competitive in the sport. If it mattered we would have our own league and not go begging to the Americans. Apparenty that is not needed, as we now have MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpaup Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 No mention of Alex Surprenant 89 (Montreal Impact) or Fabrice Lassonde 89 (FC Ingolstadt 04 II). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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