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quote:Originally posted by M

Hirschfeld wants to defer decision whether to extend his contract with Rosenborg. The club however insists quick answer.

Read more: http://www.rosenborg.info/article/5704

A winter move is possible if Rosenborg succeed in signing Rune Jarstein. I guess Lars has impressed quite a few clubs with his performances in the Champions League.

I personally would like to keep Hirschfeld. He is a great person and his performances have been at a very high and stable level during his two seasons - in deep contrast to his predecessor Espen Johnsen. Jarstein will hopefully be a good replacement though.

This article was posted by Jonny63 on BS.

http://fotball.aftenposten.no/eliteserien/article96466.ece

Apparently the transfer fee of 1.1M Euros for Jarstein was rejected by Odd Grenland. Jarstein and RBK have come to personal terms, so it's a matter of getting the transfer done.

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quote:Originally posted by Ed

According to Jonny63 on BigSoccer, the transfer is now confirmed. Will Lars be on the move over the transfer window??

In case anyone skipped through the thread, the transfer Ed is refering to is that of Rune Jarstein from Odd Grenland to Rosenborg. They agreed to a 1.3M Euro fee.

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Yep, he has. Jarstein has a bigger potential than Lars, and will 99,9% sure be Rosenborg's first choice already in 2008 even though he still is not as stable as Lars.

In 2003 Arni Arason was in the same situation as Hirschfeld. He had been the first choice for some years, but was benched because he rejected extending his contract. Rosenborg then decided to keep Arason as back-up the whole season, until he left for Manchester City as free agent.

Whether Rosenborg want Hirschfeld as back-up in 2008, I don't know. Alex Hansen has been a good reserve for years, so Hirschfeld is strictly not needed...

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I thought earlier Rosenborg might try to sell Lars during the winter transfer window but now I'm not so sure. They've just hired a new coach (Eric Hamrèn from Danish Superliga side Aalborg) but he does not join them until June 1 so they may hold off on major player moves until he's in place.

Also, Jarstein is very talented, but still young and prone to some gaffes; also he needs to learn to control his temperament. They may decide to keep Lars for the UEFA Cup ties this winter with an eye to moving him in the summer. I saw a rumour on BigSoccer that Lars has a girlfriend back in Canada so MLS is a possibility too; I gather MLS is not in the habit of paying big transfer fees, so moving him closer to the end of his contract may be more attractive in that case.

Just speculation, though. Given how well Lars played in the CL, there may already be interest from the continent, but I guess we'll find out soon enough.

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According to a Romanian agent, Rosenborg and CFR Cluj already have agreed on a transfer fee for Hirschfeld, who is on his honeymoon in Hawaii these days. Rosenborg back Mikael Dorsin joined them for free this week: http://fotball.adressa.no/eliteserien/article97271.ece

Rosenborg in other words are keen on selling him. The question is whether Hirschfeld is interesting in moving to Romania...

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I believe this is the article you're talking about.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/europeanfootball/story/0,,2221727,00.html

Sounds equally promising and dodgy for Lars, if the transfer rumour is true. He may find himself playing behind a very good, store-bought squad next season in the Champions' League group stages. Likely better than the one he played behind this season.

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quote:Originally posted by M

According to a Romanian agent, Rosenborg and CFR Cluj already have agreed on a transfer fee for Hirschfeld, who is on his honeymoon in Hawaii these days. Rosenborg back Mikael Dorsin joined them for free this week: http://fotball.adressa.no/eliteserien/article97271.ece

Rosenborg in other words are keen on selling him. The question is whether Hirschfeld is interesting in moving to Romania...

Another article on the subject:

http://fotball.aftenposten.no/eliteserien/article97271.ece

I don't quite read Norwegian, but it seems to cover the same points as M mentioned above.

I'm not sure I'd want to move to Romania, but if it's good money and a Champions League spot, it may make sense for Lars.

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quote:Originally posted by jonovision

Another article on the subject:

http://fotball.aftenposten.no/eliteserien/article97271.ece

I don't quite read Norwegian, but it seems to cover the same points as M mentioned above.

I'm not sure I'd want to move to Romania, but if it's good money and a Champions League spot, it may make sense for Lars.

Interesting move if it happen.

From a canadian fan perspective I'm not sure it's the move I was hoping for him. I would've prefer a move to a mid or lower table club in a bigger league.

Yes, the CL is appealling but that's only 6 games in the season and I'm not sure the romanian league will offer a bigger challenge for Lars compare to Norway.

Good luck to him.

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Playing in Romania doesn't sound very appealing, as I was hoping for a larger CL club

for Lars. Then again I said the same for other teams like Xanthi, and Odd Grenland,

and the Canucks that played there turned out okay. So if it's true, good luck Lars ...

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Playing in Romania doesn't sound very appealing, as I was hoping for a larger CL club

for Lars. Then again I said the same for other teams like Xanthi, and Odd Grenland,

and the Canucks that played there turned out okay. So if it's true, good luck Lars ...

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yeah, i am not sure a few games in the champions league is good enough payback for playing in a backwater league....lars is getting to the stage in his career where he needs to move forward, not sideways.

i might prefer a higher bundesliga 2 team, if that were open to him.

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Romania has a stronger league than Norway and is head and shoulders above the Bundesliga 2. Their top clubs are respectable in Euro competition and the league is not as imbalanced as Scotland. In terms of relative strength, it is behind Holland and about the same as Russia, Ukraine, Belgium, Turkey, Greece etc.

Check out their co-efficient strength for next season:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_coefficients

Another thing to think about, their league plays 34 games as opposed to 26 in Norway.

Also, even though it does get a little chilly in Romania in the winter he likely won't freeze his arse off nearly as much as he did in Norway.

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quote:Originally posted by jpg75

Romania has a stronger league than Norway and is head and shoulders above the Bundesliga 2. Their top clubs are respectable in Euro competition and the league is not as imbalanced as Scotland. In terms of relative strength, it is behind Holland and about the same as Russia, Ukraine, Belgium, Turkey, Greece etc.

Check out their co-efficient strength for next season:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_coefficients

Another thing to think about, their league plays 34 games as opposed to 26 in Norway.

Also, even though it does get a little chilly in Romania in the winter he likely won't freeze his arse off nearly as much as he did in Norway.

Thanks.

I just took a look at recent UEFA competitions ans it's true that Romanians clubs have done well in recent years but they've struggled this year with no clubs remaining in both competitions.

I think it's tough to judge norwegian results in those competitions since their season ends late October. We've seen a good example of it with Rosenborg in CL.

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quote:Originally posted by jpg75

Romania has a stronger league than Norway and is head and shoulders above the Bundesliga 2. Their top clubs are respectable in Euro competition and the league is not as imbalanced as Scotland. In terms of relative strength, it is behind Holland and about the same as Russia, Ukraine, Belgium, Turkey, Greece etc.

Check out their co-efficient strength for next season:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_coefficients

Another thing to think about, their league plays 34 games as opposed to 26 in Norway.

Also, even though it does get a little chilly in Romania in the winter he likely won't freeze his arse off nearly as much as he did in Norway.

I think this is better than a lateral move, though only slightly. The likely CL participation for next season is hard to beat, but that might not be in the cards for subsequent years.

To remove the geography factor somewhat, consider a move from Rosenborg to a club in Belgium (which you suggest is roughly equal to the Romanian league), even an important one like Anderlecht. How many people on this site would be happy on this move? I still think we'd have the same folks holding out for a move to Germany or France or something.

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I would consider a move to Anderlecht to be a good one. But i can't speak for others, some people are never satisfied that our Nats are not playing for teams that look better on paper. I'd also have considered a move to a top Russian, Turkish or Greek club a solid move. Such as <insert name> Moscow, Fenerbahce or Olympiakos/Panathinaikos/AEK etc.

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