Trillium Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 quote:Originally posted by terpfan68 Question: Will the fact that Germany has won the last two Women's World Cups and just hosted the Men's World Cup help them or hurt them in getting votes for the 2011 Women's World Cup? No the issues will be economic ... who offers most support money to the confederations to bring there teams in...thats why it would be critical for the CSA to work with Canadian government for the non Europe ... federations to garner votes.. Brasil.. the Concacaf rep... the exectutive members like Chuck Blazer..etc. That costs money i hope the funds were spent.. but i doubt it was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan68 Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Why is it that when a city bids for the olympics we always here government sport ministers promise support for the bid. Usually with big $$$$. Is the federal government even aware that the CSA is bidding for the Women's World Cup and if so have they commented on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachRich Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Helena Guergis, Secretary of State (Foreign Affairs and International Trade) (Sport)(Sport Canada) is w/ the John Rocha & team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan68 Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Good to hear, but usually you get an upfront announcement from government about the support for the bid. I recall a lot of press concerning the Vancouver Olympic bid from government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoyleG Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 quote:Originally posted by terpfan68 Good to hear, but usually you get an upfront announcement from government about the support for the bid. I recall a lot of press concerning the Vancouver Olympic bid from government. Blame that more on the CSA's poor PR machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 "... it was still Angerer and the Germans who defended their World Cup title without surrendering a goal in six matches. It was a balanced, thoroughly convincing performance, and despite Canada's solid credentials, it would be quite a surprise if FIFA did not acknowledge Germany by granting it the opportunity to follow up on the successful 2006 men's World Cup with the women's version. The other argument is continental. Of the five Women's World Cups so far, only one was in Europe, and that was in Sweden in 1995. The German public definitely seems open to the concept. Viewing figures for last month's Women's World Cup final in Germany peaked at about 12 million, which is comparable to what the German men attract for a World Cup match. There were 15,000 packed into a city square in Frankfurt to greet the German women upon their return. Chancellor Angela Merkel has filmed a message to be included in the presentation Tuesday to FIFA's executive board in Zurich." From: http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/10/29/sports/arena29.php?page=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan68 Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Well, the German's have my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Let's hope our bid is electric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/10/30/sports/EU-SPT-SOC-FIFA-2011-WWCUP.php quote: Canada had showed "what football can be in a country where so far football was not the sport number one," FIFA president Sepp Blatter said after its presentation. "We appreciate what you've done and we have good hopes for you and what you can do in the future. "But we are in a competition and in competition there is always a winner and a loser. So I wish you well." That's called the German President of FIFA doing what he can to affect the result before the vote. Nice video shots of him in their presentation too. Translation, "run along now," the Germans are here. The same arrogant ass who said women should wear sexier uniforms. "We appreciate what you've done." Yeah. I'll bet you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Blatter is about as German as I am. Can you point out how our bid was stronger than the German bid? Otherwise, chill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSwede Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 You can't blame Blatter but nonetheless he is a BIG tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishman Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Germany wins bid to host 2011 Women's World Cup of soccer Canada's bid falls short Last Updated: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 | 11:19 AM ET CBC Sports It's maybe next time for Canada's hopes of hosting the FIFA Women's World Cup. And that might not be a bad thing, says one longtime soccer commentator. FIFA, the sport's world's governing body, announced Tuesday that Germany will host the multi-nation event in 2011 after a process that saw Canada into the final two. Both countries had made final presentations on Monday in Zurich, Switzerland. "I'm not surprised by this," said Dick Howard, a CBC commentator, former player and currently a member of FIFA's Technical and Development Committee, who was in Zurich last Friday for his own meeting. The feeling at that time, he said, was that Germany would get the nod. All the better for this country, Howard thinks. "It's quite honestly a blessing in disguise," he said. "It will give the Canadian Soccer Association a chance to get its own house in order without the distraction of hosting another huge event." That group currently is without a president (there is an interim head), a technical director or a chief operating officer. A tournament on the scale of the Women's World Cup is a "massive undertaking," Howard said. "It would take a lot to put all of the effort into that when there is so much to do at home." Much of the talk around Zurich, the former North American Soccer League goalkeeper said, was of the excellent job Canada did hosting the FIFA U-20 World Cup with its record ticket sales and large influx of dollars into the country's economy. But the CSA was up against a monster in Germany's bid that included requests from 28 different venues to host games. This summer, the Germans won the Women's World Cup for the second straight time and they did, by all accounts, an outstanding job of hosting the 2006 FIFA World Cup for men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Canada was the underdog all along being up against Germany. There really was no competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloth8 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 You can view Canada's bid presentation on the FIFA website. The link is on the right hand side under the photos. Here is the link. http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/federation/news/newsid=625447.html#germany+stage+2011+showpiece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud Mouth Soup Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 quote:Originally posted by sloth8 You can view Canada's bid presentation on the FIFA website. The link is on the right hand side under the photos. Here is the link. http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/federation/news/newsid=625447.html#germany+stage+2011+showpiece Was it a video of the CSA board asking, "Pretty please?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-A Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 A couple of CSA pictures in the photo gallery on that link. Erin McCleod and Dominique Maestracci. Alot of things need to be done as mentioned on this site today for Canada to host a World Cup Mens or Womens. Next team Canada will need to get the whole country involved with a big compaign (Including the public, sports people and the government) Heres to a future bid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piltdownman Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Just watched the bid video and I can see even more why we didn't get the tournament. And since when is Edmonton in the East? They said two sites on the west coast and four in the east and then showed a map with Victoria, Vancouver and Edmonton on it. The sports minister's commitment didn't commit anything is was just a long message about how it would be nice for little girls and Canada would be proud. One of the only solid things was the part about how this would start a professional womens league and help FIFA grow the game in North America. Doesn't a bid normally talk about venues, cultural events, economics and legacy? They gave one line to legacy and claimed that Edmonton was in the East and that was it on those fronts. Funny Blatter when made a comment about how how Soccer isn't the number one sport in canada, after all he comes from a hockey background too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 quote:Originally posted by N-A Next team Canada will need to get the whole country involved with a big compaign (Including the public, sports people and the government) Heres to a future bid! Your exactly right the presentation by the CSA was horrible... there was no emotion to move the delegates and sway any uncommitteds. Its clear the CSA has no clue about the kind of work needed to get the next level of event... from FIFA, with Kevin Pipe gone the CSA no longer had a old boy inside the group to help work on drawing in chits.. but beyond that when memebers the FIFA cttes from Canada clearly dont support the bid.. see Mr. Howard.. you have to realize it was a shambles. There was no work with the South American delegates to obtain votes...according to reports the CSA only found out at the time the meetings there might be residual angst from the U20... And another point.. this was a bid for a Womens World Cup.. not a hey see what we did with mens U20...it was all internal to Canada....the old saw about .. trying to increase the visibility of the game.. talking about MLS etc.. thats crap .. your talking to a group of old men who dont care about twenty thousand seat stadia as a legacy..its chump change.. focus on women bringing the women of the world to Canada for the World Cup .. show images of female players ... playing in the country ...from Baffin Island to the Toronto Islands.. have some damn idea...before you trundle off to look foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachRich Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Whatever way you look at this presentation it was much like the budget the CSA gives the WNT programs "0". Also, they had a huge wall to get over which was the loss & security issues at the MNT U20. When you compare these to Germany having the most successful revenue MWC ever & the small travelling footprint of Germany how could FIFA vote otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 quote:Originally posted by CoachRich Whatever way you look at this presentation it was much like the budget the CSA gives the WNT programs "0". Also, they had a huge wall to get over which was the loss & security issues at the MNT U20. When you compare these to Germany having the most successful revenue MWC ever & the small travelling footprint of Germany how could FIFA vote otherwise. You may be right ..but its not just this loss its the fact the next time we step up..the taint of such a sad..presentation will linger.. the fact we did not have a senior national polititician versus the Germans having the Minister for Sport making the pitch ..and doing it well and smoothly... oh yes and the countrys president ...why not have Michele Jean .. in the delgation ..or does CSA not get it.. thats her job for Canada..and she would have been as smooth as the Germans ..and matched the German ..inclusion story..nope sorry guys..we were outbid and did horrible job on the FIFA stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan68 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 I don't really think that we could have Jazzed up the presentation enough to satisfy the selection committee. It probably would have been a waste of time and money for all envolved, but we have four years to ready a new presentation and we need to start preparing now. Of course we will have at least one federal election between now and then but it would be nice to get some committment from government right now. In four years look for Australia and Brazil to put on major presentations in an attempt to win hosting rights. They will be our competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 quote:Originally posted by terpfan68 I don't really think that we could have Jazzed up the presentation enough to satisfy the selection committee. It probably would have been a waste of time and money for all envolved, but we have four years to ready a new presentation and we need to start preparing now. Of course we will have at least one federal election between now and then but it would be nice to get some committment from government right now. In four years look for Australia and Brazil to put on major presentations in an attempt to win hosting rights. They will be our competition. Not the point .. if you go into something go in to Win not to justify a trip by the fartcatchers to FIFA world.. you can bet the CSA types spent there time politicing for personal advancement in FIFA not for getting Canada a real shot at a next bid oppourtunity.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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