BigBird Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 I found that this player Robert Stillo an Italo Canadese is moving from the AS PRO Belvedere and now with Alievi Nazionali Del Genova he is an 91 I believe.. anyone know who he is..........found this today in headlines http://www.asprobelvedere.it/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.home&lan=it&newsDetail=1&id=511&zdx=%23%2B%22HH%0A I wonder if they are referring him to English Italo or Canadian Italo either way seems that the more I read on this guy the parently he gets better many team wanted him he choose to go to Genoa. hummmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Have you contacted the CSA to let them know about this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBird Posted July 30, 2007 Author Share Posted July 30, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Gian-Luca Have you contacted the CSA to let them know about this guy? Gian Luca you do the honours take the information and hope something happens out of it.. first that he is an Italo Canadian and not an Italo englese they may take him.... sure help yourself to the information no need for me to get involved... but do us a flavor keep us posted ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 According to a google search, a Robert Stillo played goal for Mississauga Erin Mills Eagles A in the U17 Ontario Cup Final in 2006. http://www.ontariosoccer.ca/ONTCUP/2006%20U17B%20T1%20Semi%20Final%20Program.pdf Interesting that he was playing against Joey Melo. BigBird, the Alievi Nazionali is how many tiers below Serie D? I'm too lazy to look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBird Posted July 30, 2007 Author Share Posted July 30, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack According to a google search, a Robert Stillo played goal for Mississauga Erin Mills Eagles A in the U17 Ontario Cup Final in 2006. http://www.ontariosoccer.ca/ONTCUP/2006%20U17B%20T1%20Semi%20Final%20Program.pdf Interesting that he was playing against Joey Melo. BigBird, the Alievi Nazionali is how many tiers below Serie D? I'm too lazy to look it up. well strangley enough I dont consider it to be a level or a tier however it is more of the elite of the elite. These players who are there is a good sign for future and prospecting players still considered to be very young as Stillo..but never overlooked I hope that they start looking at kids sooner then later..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 I understand it now, A.S. Pro Belvedere is in Serie D (Girone A). Robert Stillo is signed to their youth team (Alievi Nazionali). By the way BigBird, this is a great find. Have you heard anything on Uccello, Placentino or Zavarise? I can't find anything on where they will play next year. I know Masciantonio is back with Benevento. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBird Posted July 30, 2007 Author Share Posted July 30, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack I understand it now, A.S. Pro Belvedere is in Serie D (Girone A). Robert Stillo is signed to their youth team (Alievi Nazionali). Massive they only thing I dont understand the Robert Stillo that is there has been there for a year, with this team but yet they show him on the 1991 team for Pro Belv ALievi nazionale. You and I know he cannot play in another country and play for in the Ontario Cup as mentioned this player would be consider as inilegable, he would require a magnatude of paper work just to make it happen and I dont think it possible.... I just wonder if it is the same guy Geeze I would not want to be Missisagua erin mills right now.....if it is the same player] http://www.asprobelvedere.it/index.cfm?fuseaction=squadra.home&idSquadra=17&formazione=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Is it possible that he left for Italy as soon as the Ontario season finished? He probably would have been considered a free agent, allowing Pro Belvedere to sign him without any problems. This is just a guess, there is often very little info for players in Italy's lower leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBird Posted July 30, 2007 Author Share Posted July 30, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack I understand it now, A.S. Pro Belvedere is in Serie D (Girone A). Robert Stillo is signed to their youth team (Alievi Nazionali). By the way BigBird, this is a great find. Have you heard anything on Uccello, Placentino or Zavarise? I can't find anything on where they will play next year. I know Masciantonio is back with Benevento. There only four players currently active for the 07/08 season They are Masciantonio 1981 class is with Benevento C2 Girone C Uccello class 1986 is with Rivarolese Calcio Serie D Girone A Zavarise class 1986 is with Montebelluno Serie D Girone C Of course If Robert Stillo is the Canadian of this topic\ he with Genoa Alievi Nazionali team Roccer Placentino has drop out of the picture in Italy not sure if he is injured but he is no where to been seen. Massese is in Ritro had a few games already and no mention of him. Arezzo has not extended his contract as stated in the Web site. Some here mentioned he was here with TFC///// So I don’t know what to tell you if this is the case the only team that will have his book is Gualdo Calcio as they are the original owners of his card. But the market is very active lots of movement. These players above have committed for the prospective teams for this season excluding Rocco Placentino and with his talents he should have a problem finding a team in the C1 catagory . I just hope he is healthy from the injury he sustained last year on his knee or ankle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 As my Italian is very rusty, perhaps a translation of the article would be good before I contact the CSA (if I have been anointed to do so)? Just so that I know what it is the article is saying before I send it to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Shouldn't the CSA figure this out for themselves. How pathetic is it that regular people who don't even work for the CSA have to do their job for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Macksam Shouldn't the CSA figure this out for themselves. How pathetic is it that regular people who don't even work for the CSA have to do their job for them? Well for all we know they might already know about this kid & this signing (if that is what is indeed what has happened). That was part of the point of my initial question. And if they don't, shame on them, but I don't really care how they find out as long as they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Macksam Shouldn't the CSA figure this out for themselves. How pathetic is it that regular people who don't even work for the CSA have to do their job for them? Gian-Luca does work for the CSA. He is their official appologist. Just ask Jeffrey S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBird Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 Guys we are all in this together. The translation is simple The name you have, and continues to say that they indicate that they have been working wioth him for a while and was on last year roster for PRO BEV. It also indicated that now that they have clean him up basically he has been transfered to Genoa ALievi National team which is all 91 an 92.... this year...for 2008. It also says that he is an Italo Canadese which means two possiblities the english version of people from England or the Canadian Version which he is from here....... It appears that him being on the roster for the ontario cup is a concern, I would think if he has been there for one year he cannot play in two differnet league in the same year without proper transfers,,,, this may be a different player but to have the same last name and first name and year of birth I doubt it. This is him I would think. So if this is him He would have to sign transfer papers that would be requested by the Italian Federation of Calcio, unless he never played here and Mississagu erins mills are not aware that he has another league he plays in and is on Vacation here,,,, hummm a no no for erin mills and the club big fines ask woodbridge....and how the CSA does not know about this player is beyond my capaticy maybe others could find out but it a shame that like my self finds out before them ah no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Serie D in Italy is such a low level I can't even be bothered. In fact we do not have a single player in Italy at a decent level, if you count in regional groups you are talking about a very low tier. Kevin de Serpa was at a higher level playing for Avilés in Spain's 2B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Macksam Shouldn't the CSA figure this out for themselves. How pathetic is it that regular people who don't even work for the CSA have to do their job for them? quote:Originally posted by Macksam Shouldn't the CSA figure this out for themselves. How pathetic is it that regular people who don't even work for the CSA have to do their job for them? Geez..guys any player going anywhere outside Canada requires a release from the CSA an international transfer.. no if ands or buts...so they have all the data on all players ..under 18 and over...including little johnny at 12 who goes and plays in a registered soccer club program in any other country. Read the FIFA transfer rules... That said does the CSA have a program of keeping in touch.. not bloodly likely to send a letter to such a player from the National team pool coach would be to onerous...heck it could mean fifty envelopes and signatures every three months to keep in touch...its too much for the budget... Next you will tell me the CSA should have some Ital Canadain with links to the game take in game or two and send the CSA a scouting report... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. Serie D in Italy is such a low level I can't even be bothered. In fact we do not have a single player in Italy at a decent level, if you count in regional groups you are talking about a very low tier. Kevin de Serpa was at a higher level playing for Avilés in Spain's 2B. Rocco Placentino was playing in C1, the same tier as 2B in Spain, but with less groups (2 instead of 4). Just to be clear, Robert Stillo is on the youth team of a Serie D team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack Rocco Placentino was playing in C1, the same tier as 2B in Spain, but with less groups (2 instead of 4). Just to be clear, Robert Stillo is on the youth team of a Serie D team. My point is that if you are in England in League Two, at the bottom even, you can count some 90 teams better than yours. In Italy if Serie C has two groups, you are talking about being at the same level, some 80 teams ahead of yours, if you are at the bottom of your group. Germany works the same. In Spain with four groups in 2B, you could be lower mid table in your group and that would put, theoretically, 90 teams ahead of you in Spanish leagues. So taking England, Spain and Italy as high level soccer countries with comparatively strong leagues, a weak fourth division team in England would be equivalent to a weak third tier team in Italy or a lower than average third tier team in Spain. Meaning perhaps we should be paying way more attention to Terry Dunfield . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBird Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. Serie D in Italy is such a low level I can't even be bothered. In fact we do not have a single player in Italy at a decent level, if you count in regional groups you are talking about a very low tier. Kevin de Serpa was at a higher level playing for Avilés in Spain's 2B. You may think so I certaianlly do not. If you can not be bother with dont commnet it. There are a magnatude of players playing Serie d many young players that start there ranks in this league,,,, remmember that there are quotas that must be on the field in a game..by ages...1 x87 2x88 1x89 I dont want to give the list of players that came from serie D to become starters in serie A,,, in fact wait you just may soon see one lets say in a year or so maybe two! But thanks for your comment stick to spain and your expertize that you demostrate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Jeffrey, I agree with you. I'm not saying these players deserve senior national team caps, I think/hope Canada has gotten past the point were players at low professional levels get called. But there's nothing wrong with our youth teams calling players from low divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBird Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack Rocco Placentino was playing in C1, the same tier as 2B in Spain, but with less groups (2 instead of 4). Just to be clear, Robert Stillo is on the youth team of a Serie D team. No Massive he is not in D he is playing in a youth system just like here as a OYSL under 17 lets say. Not a serie D I would just call youth system for Genoa. They play some 10 games all season plus cup games etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 quote:Originally posted by BigBird You may think so I certaianlly do not. If you can not be bother with dont commnet it. There are a magnatude of players playing Serie d many young players that start there ranks in this league,,,, remmember that there are quotas that must be on the field in a game..by ages...1 x87 2x88 1x89 I dont want to give the list of players that came from serie D to become starters in serie A,,, in fact wait you just may soon see one lets say in a year or so maybe two! But thanks for your comment stick to spain and your expertize that you demostrate.... My expertise is limited, I admit. But if you think a fourth tier player in Italy is going to leap into Serie A that easily you are deceiving us and yourself. Just the same as the 4th tier players I know here personally who may get lucky some day and find their team promotes, and they'll get to stay with it. Otherwise, with very rare exceptions, a player over a certain age is not going to make that kind of leap. None of our players in Italy are never going to play top flight though. But an 18 year old keeper? Well sure, give him time. Let's hope he can make a nice living one day playing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirio Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 c'mon guys....serie D is really almost amateur..in fact most players have a real job!except for some former serie A or C players that are really too old or have failed...Allivi Nazionali is a junior league, in serie D people are at least 20 years old,and mostly dropped out of professional teams youth systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBird Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack Jeffrey, I agree with you. I'm not saying these players deserve senior national team caps, I think/hope Canada has gotten past the point were players at low professional levels get called. But there's nothing wrong with our youth teams calling players from low divisions. When your World Champions so many time you look at anything even players that are in the youth system under 12..... Let Canada think and continue with looking at England and Germany for there players as development when was the last time they won...... give me a break. The Italians are stallions and the South Americans are just as good and one day maybe better somtimes. Why are we not looking there for players...there just maybe then you may have a chance to qualify.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putkaputka Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 A Canadian has been spotted with a soccer ball on a beach in Brazil last year! For all that is good and pure, would someone send a letter to the CSA! seriously, how low can (and should) we go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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