Guest Jeffery S. Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Just want to say that the direction the Whitecaps are heading that Krammerhead describes also disturb me a lot, for me it demonstrates how totally lost they are. And I say that in spite of my differences with him, since we do agree that the team is badly run and poorly conceived, which is worse. Anyone think that this management could handle an MLS team is cracked. They are stuck in an old way of thinking about soccer, and that is mostly Lenarduzzi's fault, he's a dinosaur. By the way, I was supposed to be back for this last weekend, in the end did not work out, but had the Seattle game on my agenda. I would go to Swangard, but for me Surrey would also be a bit much, and anyone with kids on a long haul and having to think about getting home that much later would also have their doubts. Put the stadium in the centre and families go downtown from the suburbs to shop and hang out and then go to the game. Much like you see BC Lions fans from Vancouver Island who come over on the fast ferry, they make a downtonwn Van experience of it. And you would even see that sort of crowd (yes, a mid island and Nanaimo crowd no less) at Whitecaps games if the stadium would just get built downtown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 After the game on Sunday, I was talking to some people who went to Chicago on the bus trip as well as some Chicago Fire supporters who came up. None were thrilled with having that stadium located way out in burbs. Many stating that there was little to do around that area. Yet, in a way, I can understand the thinking of why ( in the USA) you would want to stick these facilities way out in the suburbs. With Baseball around to capture the attention of the average americans in the summer, sports like pro soccer are really trying to carve out a niche. Building these facilties in the suburbs kind of makes sence if you look at in terms of business strategy because, among other factors, the land is cheaper than in downtown locales. But i dont get that kind of thinking when it comes to canada. The game can be so much more than that here. Thats why a centrally located facility ( NOT in the burbs) is essental. I am certain that having a stadium in the city rather than the boonies is a very big reason why MLSEL were able to sell 14,000 season tickets. You guys might be better off in the long run without a stadium rather than one that is that poorly located and inconvenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Regs Richard probably thinks your posts are garbage. And, well, you know the rest. So amongst your many other skills you're now also a mind reader? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead Did I say I don't have any interest in the club? Seems to me an absurd conclusion to come to if I'm actually on here talking about them. I think I've probably watched more Whitecaps games this season than most people on this board-home and away via USL Live. Am I not allowed to post if I don't physically go to games? How about others here who post about the Whitecaps and don't go to games either? Is that a rule that applies only to myself? Plenty of others post here about the Whitecaps and they don't live in BC. Hell, some even post opinions from outside of the country. Should we question why they post and talk about the Whitecaps and express opinions on them when they aren't attending the games? Why is is it that you (and others) seem to feel the need to question whether I should be posting here or not? What's it to you? Not only because you don't attend games but because you are forever slagging the club and everything about them. If they're so awful why do you bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgary Boomer Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 I wonder if K-Head will do what a couple of other Southsiders have done, and actually work for the Whitecaps one day. If you can't beat em... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 quote:but because you are forever slagging the club and everything about them You are always praising them and forever kissing their ass. To each his own. quote:If they're so awful why do you bother? Because I like telling it how I see it. Why do you continually praise all they do? What does it get you? quote:I wonder if K-Head will do what a couple of other Southsiders have done, and actually work for the Whitecaps one day. If you can't beat em... Well thats another way the Whitecaps have to cut down the Southsiders numbers. Once you work for the Whitecaps they forbid you from posting on the Southsiders board or from attending games in the southside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgary Boomer Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Alan Douglas works for the Whitecaps and he posts on the site. And just out of curiosity...what does it "get you" by continually "telling it how you see it"? The reputation for being an a$$hole? I'm guessing this is pretty much all you have in your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead You are always praising them and forever kissing their ass. To each his own. Because I like telling it how I see it. Why do you continually praise all they do? What does it get you? Well thats another way the Whitecaps have to cut down the Southsiders numbers. Once you work for the Whitecaps they forbid you from posting on the Southsiders board or from attending games in the southside. The mind boggles at how many misconceptions you labour under! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancanman Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 It's time to build an island in Burrard inlet and have the sea bus stop there on the way on matchdays. How bloody stupid is city council? They claim they want this thing, but they keep saying something's approved, and then a few months later it has to be changed again. Inuvik's going to have a stadium before we will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 quote:The mind boggles at how many misconceptions you labour under! Misconceptions? There are ex-Whitecaps employees who have have said as much on the southsiders board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Why do you think they're ex employees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Richard Why do you think they're ex employees? Because they stated they were. Mentioned that they were not allowed to post on the southsiders board. There's also been one prominent Southsider of many years who this year was hired by the Whitecaps. Hasn't posted a single message this season on the southsiders board nor joined the southsiders during games. I know he's still around, he tried to flog me Whitecaps season tickets at the Canada-Scotland U-20 game in Coquitlam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 You missed my point by a country mile. There is no doubt a good reason why they are EX employees. Furthermore, it is not unusual for employees to be required not to discuss their employer's internal affairs in a public forum on pain of dismissal or worse. Indeed it is often written into the terms of employment or termination. Too easy for regular workers to say the wrong thing and get into trouble so best just to be quiet. There are very good reasons why organisations generally have designated spokesmen/women. Surely this is not beyond your experience or not a surprise for you to learn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Richard There is no doubt a good reason why they are EX employees. That's assuming quite a bit, no? Not everyone leaves their job because they were fired or are hell bent on getting even at their former employer. I've never left a job in bad standing or with a grudge, but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't have a criticism or two about the way some of the organizations run their businesses. I'm not saying this to justify the extent of his criticism, but to point out that the souce can be discredited so easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Not assuming anything - everybody who changes jobs invariably does so for good reason. But my point about not hanging out the employer's or even former employer's dirty laundry stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 quote: You missed my point by a country mile Sure did. I'm tired, but now understand what you're saying. I don't know anything about the positions these guys had with the Whitecaps or why they left. I have no reason to think they are lying when they say they weren't allowed to post on the Southsiders board (good or bad). I still can't explain why a long time southsider who never had/has anything bad to say about the club gets hired by the caps and has to stop posting on the southsiders board or watch games from the southside. quote:I'm not saying this to justify the extent of his criticism, but to point out that the souce can be discredited so easily. There's no criticism aimed at anyone here. Merely pointed out in this thread thats been hijacked to pieces that the Whitecaps don't allow their employees to post on the southsider board. By the way, the Whitecaps recently hired on of the most foulmouthed of the southsiders to run their website. The one and only webmaster of the Southsiders board himself.....Morbital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regs Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 That's funny if true. I wonder how Greg Kerfoot feels about hiring someone into his organisation who publicly refers to women as warm wet holes? Can't imagine he'll be too impressed once he finds out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Regs That's funny if true. I wonder how Greg Kerfoot feels about hiring someone into his organisation who publicly refers to women as warm wet holes? Can't imagine he'll be too impressed once he finds out... It's true. Check out the webmaster email address on their page: http://www.whitecapsfc.com/contact/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Regs That's funny if true. I wonder how Greg Kerfoot feels about hiring someone into his organisation who publicly refers to women as warm wet holes? Can't imagine he'll be too impressed once he finds out... Hmmm... the person responsible for hiring a webmaster is a woman. He'd better watch his tongue now I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Champ Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Well he killed off the Southsiders board. I wonder if he was in cahoots with brigadier brad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Current Champ Well he killed off the Southsiders board. I wonder if he was in cahoots with brigadier brad.... He may be now, the Southsiders website hasn't been updated since June 10th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piltdownman Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Why write about all the bad news since the June 11? We were still a good club at that time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Fan Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 Just to be clear, both employees are still Southsiders.Just like the ex employee in question,all 3 had(have ) made appearrances in the Southside and all 3 have(had)participated with singing,chanting and flag waving and noisemaking. The webmaster is a young kid.He has matured over the past year and I suspect will continue to mature working with professional adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Thistle Can't deny that, but with a city pop of 2.5 million and 5 million covering the GTA, filling a 25k stadium IS a no-brainer. It's still a novelty to the city but I agree that the 25k can be filled with nothing but football fanatics. By way of argument, though, how many of those fanatics use the GO train to get there? sorry to join into this discussion so late and taking it off topic (although technically it might be putting it back on topic). The westbound Lakeshore line for the Go Train was absolutely packed after Sunday's game vs. Galaxy. More and more people are taking the Go Train because it's cheaper than parking and the game schedules are timed so that when the game ends, you can get on a train home within 15-20 minutes. I only take the Go Train to games now after having driven to the first 3 games. way less stress. A suburban stadium would be a decent fall back position as long as it is located physically at the train station. BMO Field is located literally 3 minutes from the Exhbition station. It takes longer to walk from the Ontario Place parking lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest speedmonk42 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 quote:Originally posted by VPjr sorry to join into this discussion so late and taking it off topic (although technically it might be putting it back on topic). The westbound Lakeshore line for the Go Train was absolutely packed after Sunday's game vs. Galaxy. More and more people are taking the Go Train because it's cheaper than parking and the game schedules are timed so that when the game ends, you can get on a train home within 15-20 minutes. I only take the Go Train to games now after having driven to the first 3 games. way less stress. A suburban stadium would be a decent fall back position as long as it is located physically at the train station. BMO Field is located literally 3 minutes from the Exhbition station. It takes longer to walk from the Ontario Place parking lot. I agree. The Go-Train was packed. But it was also a lot of people who have now discovered the tunnel towards king st. I for one walked on more than one occasion from UofT to the Stadium. It's just not that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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