Dante79 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 forget about thsi sh*t Gold cup! we all know that its always gona be the same crap! Maybe Canada should aim fot the 2011 Copa america Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 how does a team quilify for the copa america..i really dont no anything about this tourny, can anyone explain it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante79 Posted June 22, 2007 Author Share Posted June 22, 2007 well if you're not part of South America, you need to be invited, like USA and Mexico are invited to this years Copa America in Venezuela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 i see, what does canada need to be invited? lets say a flood of emails sometime..haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I think winning the 2009 Gold Cup would do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I really took to an idea I heard recently: Combine Gold Cup and Copa America, and make it only every 4 years. Perhaps, you could take like 6 teams from CONCACAF and 8 from South America. There would have to be qualifying, which is obviously a serious negative to this, but there is qualifying for every Euro and African Nations, so why not? It would definintely raise the quality and profile of the tournament, along with all of teams and players that participate. Plus, most of the World sees us as 1 continent anyways. An 'America's Cup'?? Interesting idea anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Love that Idea... hadn't thought of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way2goeh Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Unfortunatley I have the answer to this. After this years Copa America, They will NOT be inviting teams from our region anymore, same as our region wont be taking in any invitees. Personally I hate this b/c its always my dream to see Brasil x Canada here in Brasil or somewhere near with some meaning. Its too bad we didnt play in the Copa America a few years back when there was violence in Colombia and we declined to play. Yet we played against Venezuela in Ven when they had their uprising against Chavez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Dante79 forget about thsi sh*t Gold cup! we all know that its always gona be the same crap! Maybe Canada should aim fot the 2011 Copa america We did! to be precsie, we were invited to copa America in 2001 but ended up not going. Long story, check archived threads on this forum if anyone eants to know why. Lots of posts on that thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Canada needs to join UEFA or the Asian Confederation. I'm not joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis_Rancagua Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 quote:Originally posted by way2goeh Unfortunatley I have the answer to this. After this years Copa America, They will NOT be inviting teams from our region anymore, same as our region wont be taking in any invitees. Personally I hate this b/c its always my dream to see Brasil x Canada here in Brasil or somewhere near with some meaning. Its too bad we didnt play in the Copa America a few years back when there was violence in Colombia and we declined to play. Yet we played against Venezuela in Ven when they had their uprising against Chavez. If CONMEBOL will no longer invite guest nations, then what will be the format: how many nations will participate in the continent of South America??? Are they expected to back to the old format of 5 teams for 2 divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxl Boy Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 The question then is : should Conmebol and Concacaf merge ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPB Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Bxl Boy, I think that is clearly the best route possible. On one hand it would be enticing to the South American teams who would love to have a shot at 8 instead of 4 slots at World Cup. On the other hand, it would strengthen the top teams in Concacaf due to playing up rather than down. And the revenues would be excellent -- especially with the potential in the USA television market. My guess, however, is that things are entrenched, regarding the financial levers, and FIFA is not about to mix things up for the sake of Canada or even the USA and Mexico. If Canada and the USA became regulars at the World Cup -- and regular in the knockout rounds -- we might see some movement toward the merger. Maybe. But it is a great idea and makes sense for fans, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxl Boy Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I'm afraid of two things. Political, of course. 1/ Having latino americans controlling the whole continent (not a problem for South America where Brazil is an half-exception and can't be set apart). 2/ Having a permanent war between US wanting to be a power and latinos not wanting those “new soccer richs” in their business. If it was only a matter of sport, I'd like to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagum Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 quote:Originally posted by way2goeh Unfortunatley I have the answer to this. After this years Copa America, They will NOT be inviting teams from our region anymore, same as our region wont be taking in any invitees. Personally I hate this b/c its always my dream to see Brasil x Canada here in Brasil or somewhere near with some meaning. Its too bad we didnt play in the Copa America a few years back when there was violence in Colombia and we declined to play. Yet we played against Venezuela in Ven when they had their uprising against Chavez. Way2goeh how do you know that? did you read about it? What I know is that as usual The Copa America will always invite 2 CONCACAF Teams :Mexico and another one ( the winner of the Gold Cup). About The Copa America in Colombia in 2001 when Canada did not participate, you try to compare the violence of Colombia with "a uprisining of the Venezuelan people against Chavez". My friend our country is now independent and the most of the Venezuelan are proud of managing our natural resources. the "Uprising about Chavez" is just a bad propaganda of the international mass media about my country. there is not violence here like was or still is in Colombia. Indeed Mr. Blatter said in his last visit to Venezuela that the country could organized Under-20 or -17 world Cup... sorry Sigma, I do not want to talk here about politics, but often when somebody refers something about Venezuela, there is always a bad comentary about Chavez... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River City Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 http://www.edmontonsun.com/Sports/OtherSports/2007/06/29/4299784-sun.html The Rant Canada should be in the Copa America By DEREK VAN DIEST While watching the Copa America tournament, I can't help but wonder why the Canadian Soccer Association hasn't worked harder to get into this tournament. Granted it's the South American soccer championships, but with only 10 teams on the continent, organizers traditionally invite a pair of non-continental teams to round out the tournament. This year's event features the U.S. and Mexico, two teams that compete against Canada in the CONCACAF region. Both teams got on a plane to Venezuela the day after playing in the Gold Cup final. Canada did earn an invite to the Copa America back in 2001 by virtue of winning the Gold Cup the previous summer. However the invitation was declined after the event in Colombia was postponed due to security reasons one day, then given the go-ahead the next. At the time, the CSA said they had already told their top players the tournament was off and had released them for the summer. I guess it would have been too hard to call them back the next day. Considering the opportunity to play against South American countries in a meaningful competition, Canada should have fielded a team to send to Colombia regardless. Since then there have been two editions of the Copa America and the CSA has not done anything to be included in any of them. Why not? The subject was broached with CSA president Colin Linford, but he had no comment. When the U.S. turned down an invite to participate in the 2004 tournament Canada should have jumped at the opportunity. Look at what competing in that tournament has done for the U.S. and Mexico. It's time to stop looking across the pond and perhaps acknowledge that competing against South American teams would be a pretty good way to develop Canadian talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desigol Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Chavez is being victimised. Full Stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reza Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 I think usually the Gold cup winner plus Mexico makes it in. I can't remember if Canada cancelled because of the fact that the tournament was re-scheduled and the new timing wouldn't work or because of the fact that canada wanted to play in Confed Cup and there was too many games to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villus Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 quote:Originally posted by jagum Way2goeh how do you know that? did you read about it? What I know is that as usual The Copa America will always invite 2 CONCACAF Teams :Mexico and another one ( the winner of the Gold Cup). About The Copa America in Colombia in 2001 when Canada did not participate, you try to compare the violence of Colombia with "a uprisining of the Venezuelan people against Chavez". My friend our country is now independent and the most of the Venezuelan are proud of managing our natural resources. the "Uprising about Chavez" is just a bad propaganda of the international mass media about my country. there is not violence here like was or still is in Colombia. Indeed Mr. Blatter said in his last visit to Venezuela that the country could organized Under-20 or -17 world Cup... sorry Sigma, I do not want to talk here about politics, but often when somebody refers something about Venezuela, there is always a bad comentary about Chavez... QFT..........Colombia was/is in a civil war, Venezuelans are in a stable country and certain factions are doing there best to build public opinion against Chavez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way2goeh Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Nothing against your people and Im not comparing killings to an uprising. All I was saying is that theres enough security for the players. Thats all as for the copa america not inviting other countries, I have looked throughout Canoe and even in Google but cant find it. I know that I saw it when they announced that the Gold Cup wasnt gonna invite anyone anymore. The copa america announcement was within days of this also, but I saw this on Canoe. Hate to be wrong but I also hate not to respond back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Reza I think usually the Gold cup winner plus Mexico makes it in. I can't remember if Canada cancelled because of the fact that the tournament was re-scheduled and the new timing wouldn't work or because of the fact that canada wanted to play in Confed Cup and there was too many games to play. No. What happened was that there was serious security concerns in the weeks leading up to the tournament as a result of the on going civil war in that country ( Colombia) as well as the mass kidnappings and extortions that plagues Colombia . Argentina, being at the forefront of voicing concerns, was the first to pull out and others followed. The organizing committee and Conmebol went so far as to announce that the tourney was officially canceled. At that point Canada released its players (that they had called up) back to their pro clubs. But subsequently in the days that followed and days before the start of the tournament, the main sponsors ( including Traffic) become very irate and, if I recall, threatened legal action and hence the organizers scrambled to to reinstate the tournament. Argentina was still not pleased and stayed out but other sides succumbed to the pressure and agreed to attend but sent their Olympic teams or B teams . Canada did call up a team and even went to a training camp. But after all their players had returned to Europe, there was nothing that the CSA could do. Don't forget that if you think the depth of our talent pool is very shallow now, it was much worst then. We had nothing that would not have embarrassed us. We would have been forced to use USL players and at that time the USL was nowhere where it is now. It turns out that Costa Rica and Honduras accepted the invite at the last minute in our place and that of Argentina. Its was easy for them to assemble a team at the drop of a hat given their national team pool is made up of almost entirely domestic based players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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