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Well magically I am now allowed to get onto the chat line.

Reviewing that chat line I did not find any reference to the support of our u-20 team.I may have missed it,maybe.

It is kind of funny since these Red Patch boys were the ones that liberated Holland and I guess I am the only one on this board to have been around at that time and witnessed these marvelous guys liberating my city The Hague,which was the last one to be liberated in the second W.W.

If you ever want to have an eye witness account let me know, I have some great stories to tell.

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quote:Originally posted by BringBackTheBlizzard

Best thing to do is to join our messageboard. The membership list just gets you onto an email mailing list as far as I know and has nothing to do with our main forum:-

http://www.torfc.com/

We do have a chatline but that is only active when away games are on and I'm not sure how many people even use it now as we tend to meet up at bars to watch them these days. I think from past posts you are in Durham region. If so the Lion & Dragon in Pickering is the new RPB venue out that way:-

http://s3.excoboard.com/exco/thread.php?forumid=2571&threadid=118945

In Toronto, Shoeless Joe's at King and Dufferin is the main RPB location.

When Canada played against Austria in Edmonton there were only two Canadian team supporters at ShoeLess Joe's. Speedmonk and me.

The rest were Port. and Mex supporters and they were the ones that took over the big screen. We were relegated since we were in the minority.So this is defenitely NOT the place were the RPB meet for National team games.

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I was not aware of this and i feel they should consider giving this a very serious thought as well.It was very obvious that that great support the TFC received was not evident at all at the u 20 games and this i suspected was assumed would be the case. Obviously it became a big downer for those expecting the same noise as at TFC,me being one.So i guess it would not be to much to ask for the RPB to adopt this as a very special arm of the RPB and that TFC and Canada are the same.

If they don't we will experience two different atmospheres and our MNT will be the loosers from the start. This we must avoid at all cost.

As i said reading some of the subject posts at RPB I really could not find andy distint reference to our teams as well as an attempt to get something organized. My presence at Shoeles's joe's was one example.It was extremely annoying to be outnumbered and cut of as well,that coming all the way from Pickering.Heck i could have staayed at my Firkin and would be around a lot more Canadian supporters.Still begs the question were did the RPB gather for that game?

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RPB are a Toronto FC supporters group so our priority that week was very much Real Salt Lake vs Toronto FC and Shoeless Joe's was absolutely packed for that one by all accounts. TFC had three games in six days while Canada's U-20 first round group was on the go. Many/most people probably had to prioritize one or the other as they didn't have time for both. In future if there is less of a scheduling conflict and if the CSA gives TFC season ticket holders the right of first refusal on their seats for national team games it could be a very different story.

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Ok that would be a very good discussion point and should be immediately followed up on I suggest.Was TFC playing at the same time as the game between Canada and Austria?I don't recall and if so i would have asked them to show that game as well.Still can't figure it out that there were only two of us watching the Canada game.I really really expected a large crowd.

We have to work on getting organized in supporting our national teams asap.I hope that the real RPB will be the motivator to have this started,hey they fought for Canada afteral,why not carry on that amazing and great tradition?

Throw your forces behind Canada!

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quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.

only it is not so normal to have them all sitting together. Most clubs will have different groups, often of a different nature, scattered over the stadium, either goal and maybe up high somewhere.

I think with TFC the groups cooperate well and even socialise together at times so situating the groups side by side seems quite logical. It certainly helps to have them side-by-side, atmosphere-wise. In Europe with its hooligan problems you sometimes get groups (from the same team) fighting eachother , which necessitates separation unfortunately.

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quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack

The U-Sector is even planning to attend the Lynx game this weekend.

Yes, and this despite the Lynx dropping to a lower league!

quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack

Its sad the way people on this forum always have their knives out.

Indeed.

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quote:Originally posted by john tv

Ok that would be a very good discussion point and should be immediately followed up on I suggest.Was TFC playing at the same time as the game between Canada and Austria?

No, they played the night before, but they did play at the same time as Canada vs. Chile.

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G.L do you think or believe that TFC influenced the crowds at the opening game as far as support is concerned.To be honest i don't even recall if that TFC game was televised and on what channel. I suppose it was and i suppose this should not have happened,but there you go trying to get a good thing you get it and still not satisfied.It is strange to think that there are fans who take TFC over the canadian team, but i guess that is a fact of life and seeing that amazing enthousiasm it probably make s sense being rapped up in this great happening,what do you do he?

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quote:Originally posted by john tv

G.L do you think or believe that TFC influenced the crowds at the opening game as far as support is concerned.To be honest i don't even recall if that TFC game was televised and on what channel. I suppose it was and i suppose this should not have happened,but there you go trying to get a good thing you get it and still not satisfied.It is strange to think that there are fans who take TFC over the canadian team, but i guess that is a fact of life and seeing that amazing enthousiasm it probably make s sense being rapped up in this great happening,what do you do he?

I don't know whether it influenced fans or not, but there were a number of supporters who chose TFC over Canada. Reasons included club before country, the fact that it was U-20 and not the Senior Men's Team, and some who just don't identify with the Canadian team. (And for the record, I don't agree with any of these reasons, I'm just reporting what I saw.)

Having said that, I think a lot of these people would not have attended even if there weren't a TFC match that night.

And yes, the game was televised (on the Score, I believe).

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quote:Originally posted by john tv

G.L do you think or believe that TFC influenced the crowds at the opening game as far as support is concerned.To be honest i don't even recall if that TFC game was televised and on what channel. I suppose it was and i suppose this should not have happened,but there you go trying to get a good thing you get it and still not satisfied.It is strange to think that there are fans who take TFC over the canadian team, but i guess that is a fact of life and seeing that amazing enthousiasm it probably make s sense being rapped up in this great happening,what do you do he?

I can't really speak for the other TFC fans that chose to watch TFC play on a cheesy US broadcast feed over wanting to attend a live game cheering on your country. Maybe some of them were born elsewhere & don't cheer for Canada internationally, but I got the impression that a few of them fit the description marktci gave of not having had the chance to cheer much for Canada in the past & haven't really gotten into doing so. Most of the usector is heavily into supporting Canada (though there are a few exceptions by the sounds of it), as for the Red Patch Boys, it seems less of an interest, though hopefully that will change given time. It's not something I fully understand, but its not surprising given the origins of the usector group originally derive from this board, whereas the Red Patch Boys did not. But really only they can speak for themselves.

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There is also some 20-20 hindsight happening here too.

A lot of tickets for the U20 were sold before anyone knew what was going to happened at a TFC game.

That said, it sort of works both ways. What soccer fan would NOT go to the opening game of a FIFA tournie of the home country.

I would do that ANYWHERE.

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When I bought my season tickets i was given the option to buy the u-20's as well and more or less in the same section. And yes it is very close. From 121 to 122.

Anyway i guess we sort of missed the boat and are experiencing this wonderful learning curve as to what to do. Come to think of it these choices are made in heaven anyway,oops soccer heaven that is.

I know that there are guys who really want to create a true national team followers group with the appropiate excess to the CSA for ticket allocations and as such create stands filled with fans in the same sections. This has to be done. We must find some way to communicate with the hierchy to ensure that there is that recognition for these fans and that we will be able to secure block seats.I also realize that the Voyageurs were created to support the national Teams,but i guess the additional steps were not taken.

We must equal that TFC feeling at every game away or at home. I would be rather annoyed as a player knowing the reaction the TFC fans give their team and than to see a lot less enthoussiasm at a MNT game.

We have to work on this and as soon as possible. I leave it up to the young bucks to organize and also keep in mind that in my humble opinion your country always comes first.

As one who was liberated by the Red Patch Boys and yes I met a whole slew of them and yes they are my true heroes without fail,they were fighting for their country and sacrificing their lives and that they did in droves.As I have said numerous times,your country always comes first.

As a side note it is so obvious when you are at these u-20 games and experience that real nationalistic feeling from all these nations.

What i found so striking is that i was surrounded by Uruquay supporters and even the 11 year old kid next to me who obviuosly is Canadian still had that flag and sitting next to his dad spoke in their tongue.In fact everybody around me was from that country. Saw some American fans in the corner and appeared to be a youth team.Leaving the stadium saw this woman who wore the US jacket. From Brooklin she said.Who are you supporting she asked told her the US,and also explained to her that the coach was Dutch. I know she said they are the best in the world.

Anyway she was a very happy camper and in the process lost her husband leaving the stadium.I am sure she found him.

I just looked at my tape and i would love to show it to your guys if it was not shown on tv. Let me know how and i will put it on.

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BringBackTheBlizzard, that's terrific!

Unfortunatey for me, I am so far out in the hinderland that I won't be going to any games this year. But keep me (and other TFC supporters) in mind when you make noise in Columbus. I'll be hollering up here at the television. Heh.

How many RPBs have been on the road with the team, lately? Are your numbers growing. Any TFC supporters in the US finding their way to your red patch? That happens to Leaf fans all the time, of course, but howzabout TFC, so far?

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  • 2 months later...

Hello all! BringBackTheBlizzard has done a great job here on the boards filling you in on the details of the Red Patch Boys, but I'd like to share a bit more if you don't mind.

Firstly, as it's already been mentioned, the Red Patch Boys (RPB) are an officially-recognized Supporters Group of Toronto FC. We share good relations with the club and have representatives that work directly with Toronto FC staff to help further promote the club and the atmosphere we create on gameday.

Secondly, while our number priority as a group is to support Toronto FC, several RPB members (myself included) also follow the Canadian National Soccer Teams (both Mens and Womens). Our group is also very vocal in our support for more Canadian teams in the MLS.

Lastly, the numbers of the Red Patch Boys continue to grow with each passing day and we're now standing tall with over 1600 registered members, making us the largest soccer supporters group in the city. The RPBs regularly organises away-game trips to cities such as Columbus, New York, and Chicago, and are able to offer discounted deals on hotels and transit costs due to our high volume of members.

www.redpatchboys.ca

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