masster Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Colin Linford was just on Sportsworld. You can catch the repeat if you like. The interview is suppossed to be put on thescore.ca as well. It sounds like the new MNT coach will also be technical director. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Which pretty much excludes Mitchell and Hart, one would think. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the fourth "unknown" candidate in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAS Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 quote:Originally posted by masster Colin Linford was just on Sportsworld. You can catch the repeat if you like. The interview is suppossed to be put on thescore.ca as well. It sounds like the new MNT coach will also be technical director. He was noncommittal, but it sure looks that way. If true, then that might indicate a foreigner as Hart or Mitchell could be had without doubling up on the salary - unless they are trying to save money. He seemed to already be explaining/defending the choice of Simoes. Those who haven't seen it should watch the replay. Linford seems to be a very UNimpressive person. I thought he was an upgrade, but he seems quite amateurish and ignorant. He explained DeRo's role in the coach selection process for those in the other thread who were curious about that. Confirming that Canada will bid for the 2011 Women's WC was nice, but his comments about the 2018 World Cup shows quite abit of ignorance. He seemed to forget (or not know) that it is Austria and Switzerland hosting the Euros in 2008. He also doesn't seem to realize that FIFA is moving away from the co-hosting concept. While some might find his assessment of Canada's 2018 bid chances to be realistic, I find them too pessimistic for a CSA Pres who is promising change during a time of growth. I'm not sure if this guy has the balls to ask politicians for the money to bring in new stadiums. I think Canadian soccer needs someone who is more capable and aggressive than this guy. That's my opinion, others should catch the replay and form their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud Mouth Soup Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 No repeat tonight. NCAA all evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 quote:Originally posted by KAS Those who haven't seen it should watch the replay. Linford seems to be a very UNimpressive person. I thought he was an upgrade, but he seems quite amateurish and ignorant. He explained DeRo's role in the coach selection process for those in the other thread who were curious about that. Confirming that Canada will bid for the 2011 Women's WC was nice, but his comments about the 2018 World Cup shows quite abit of ignorance. He seemed to forget (or not know) that it is Austria and Switzerland hosting the Euros in 2008. He also doesn't seem to realize that FIFA is moving away from the co-hosting concept. While some might find his assessment of Canada's 2018 bid chances to be realistic, I find them too pessimistic for a CSA Pres who is promising change during a time of growth. I'm not sure if this guy has the balls to ask politicians for the money to bring in new stadiums. I think Canadian soccer needs someone who is more capable and aggressive than this guy. That's my opinion, others should catch the replay and form their own. I'd love to see the replay. But I dont know when it is on again. Funny that you say amateurish and ignorant because, judging from the few actions that that we have to go by so far, I would almost draw the same conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks fan Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 They replay it at 10:30 PST, 1:30 am eastern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoyleG Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 1:30 AM ET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfof Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Can someone make a torrent of this show? Or post it on YouTube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Free kick I'd love to see the replay. But I dont know when it is on again. Funny that you say amateurish and ignorant because, judging from the few actions that that we have to go by so far, I would almost draw the same conclusion. What actions are you referring to. Some don't approve of DeRo sitting in on the coaching interviews but others would call it innovative not amateurish. Regardless, if we get a good coach I don't care what the process was in hiring him. Otherwise the CSA is starting to fill in the international schedule with friendlies as he promised including home friendlies and against CONCACAF opposition like we have demanded. Things are on track with TFC, the stadium, U-20 tournament, tv coverage, sponsorship and don't forget this is the guy who fired Kevin Pipe. Whether or not he is a good interview is in my opinion irrelevant. We have just come from an era in which we had three of the most media savvy guys ever in charge at the CSA in Pipe, Yallop and Sharpe. After years of interviews with these guys painting a picture of how we were going to suceed, in the end the only interview they could give was about why T & T was in the World Cup and we weren't. I don't care if Linford doesn't know who won the last World Cup, if he gets us a good coach and good preparation for WCQ then it is a job well done in my opinion. Like the others he should be judged on the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 I think FK is reffering in part to a quote by Linford when he said something to the effect that FIFA peoples were very intrusive and didn't know what they were doing (that was in an article about the race track conflict in TO). But i've never seen that quote again so I don't know if he really said that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Watched the interview and, although I agree he's not going to be a media darling, it seemed to me that Linford has his priorities straight and shot from the hip for the most part. Seems like a realist and recognizes the potential of making it to 2010. Looks like Rene is the new manager and TD. A gamble of sorts, but you need to give a stodgy British guy credit for taking a chance and, it should be said, apparently listening to the players in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Oranje Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Linford's legacy locally is as an able organizer. Bluntness and "getting on with the job" is local K-W trait. If he didn't have it before he arrived here, he would have acquired it after he got here. It's the reason Kitchener-Waterloo has an expressway (built in the 1970s) when very few other cities of its size have one (and badly need one). Now we just have to get him to go up to Waterloo and knock on Balsillie's door. Surely he has a few bucks available now that he pulled out of buying the Pittburgh Penguins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 I've gotta say, I love the idea of a combo td-head coach, but I don't love the idea of Simoes in the role. He seems much more in the Coach-for-hire mold. As I've said before, I would love MNT to have an Olsen-type who holds the reins of the hole operation...I just don't think I want it to be Rene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Oranje Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Well, Rene Simoes was in Jamaica for about 6 years so I'm not sure where the evidence is that suggests he is in the "Coach for Hire" mold. In fact, if you look at a professional Coach's CV, most (if not all) would have some elements of short-term stays. It is an occupational hazzard. Coaches from some cultures, particularly at club level, face an even more complicated career. The term, "Coaching carrousel", is commonly used in Brazil and in this case, it has nothing to do with the coach wanting to move on. As well, we can't forget that there is a budget. I don't want to cast myself as a Simoes defender because I don't know what the choices were. But if CONCACAF experience was one of the absolute key criteria, he fits the bill. I also think that the CSA is faced with having to send a message that it is ready to step up to a higher profile. I don't want to be seen as a detracter of Mitchell and Hart because I am sure they are good Coaches. However, it would be very difficult to make a case that the CSA was doing anything but maintaining the status quo if it was to hire a domestic Coach. I don't know who the fourth candidate was, but Simoes would definitely make some waves internationally, as well as provide developing Coaches in Canada with an alternative view of how to develop young players. For example, when I was in Brazil and attending the Copa Sao Paulo U-20 tournament, I saw team warm-ups that were much more focused on an individual player's touch on the ball than I saw even in the Netherlands. That in my view is probably a critical weakness that young Canadian players have technically. If Simoes (if he is selected as the Coach and Technical Director) institutes some increased emphasis in this area, it can't hurt. And if there is a concern over his strong religious beliefs, I think we need to remind ourselves of Kaka (as a player) and Pinball Clemons (as a CFL Coach). It is possible to operate at a high level and have those beliefs. And Simoes did work in Iran so I doubt he would be anything but professional when it comes to Coaching. The most important thing for Canadian soccer is that the absolute best Coach possible is selected, both on a technical/tactical level and in crafting together the absolute best team possible. quote:Originally posted by gkhs I've gotta say, I love the idea of a combo td-head coach, but I don't love the idea of Simoes in the role. He seems much more in the Coach-for-hire mold. As I've said before, I would love MNT to have an Olsen-type who holds the reins of the hole operation...I just don't think I want it to be Rene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Canuck Oranje Well, Rene Simoes was in Jamaica for about 6 years so I'm not sure where the evidence is that suggests he is in the "Coach for Hire" mold. In fact, if you look at a professional Coach's CV, most (if not all) would have some elements of short-term stays. It is an occupational hazzard. I think you answered your own question pretty much as I would have...I think short stays with two MNT programs would seem to indicate a "coach for hire", though obviously I'm not privvy to the details of those positions. I didn't mean to indicate any skepticism on my part about his coaching abilities. I think part of my problem, if he is named HC and TD will be my sense that this may have been done to bulk up the financial end of the job offer. As I read this post I realise that it is based on a tonne of speculation...but I guess I just held out hope that candidate four would be some brilliant messianic figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Well if Rene becomes the guy then I think it's a good choice. He has experience in our region and more importantly he took a country like Jamaica to the promise land. The experience of qualifying a nation to the big show is priceless and for this reason alone it has to be considered a good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 The dual role of Coach and TD may have something to do with money. Using the salary budget from both positions in order to meet his salary demands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Oranje Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Six years as a Coach in any one program is a long stay. His are longer than most. quote:Originally posted by gkhs I think you answered your own question pretty much as I would have...I think short stays with two MNT programs would seem to indicate a "coach for hire", though obviously I'm not privvy to the details of those positions. I didn't mean to indicate any skepticism on my part about his coaching abilities. I think part of my problem, if he is named HC and TD will be my sense that this may have been done to bulk up the financial end of the job offer. As I read this post I realise that it is based on a tonne of speculation...but I guess I just held out hope that candidate four would be some brilliant messianic figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 One note: When the French FA decided over a decade ago that they needed to do something fresh--even dramatic--to improve their international play, they sent their people--coaches etc--to Brazil for heavy duty training and football indoctrination. The result, after implementing changes on a technical level for nearly 10 years, was a Euro championship, World Cup etc etc. Hiring Simoes may not be as grand a move as the one the French made, but it SEEMS like a good one when considered in that light. If Simoes can make our NTCs and youth coaches better and better, then in time we'll reap the rewards. In part, we've benefitted from Osiek's technical direction, though my gut tells me that his fairly conservative Germanic approach--in contrast to Klinsmans more liberal, positive strategy--was a good place to start but not enough for what we need. Though wary, I am optimistic about Simoes (if he really is the dude to get the job.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 quote:Originally posted by The Beaver One note: When the French FA decided over a decade ago that they needed to do something fresh--even dramatic--to improve their international play, they sent their people--coaches etc--to Brazil for heavy duty training and football indoctrination. The result, after implementing changes on a technical level for nearly 10 years, was a Euro championship, World Cup etc etc. Hiring Simoes may not be as grand a move as the one the French made, but it SEEMS like a good one when considered in that light. If Simoes can make our NTCs and youth coaches better and better, then in time we'll reap the rewards. In part, we've benefitted from Osiek's technical direction, though my gut tells me that his fairly conservative Germanic approach--in contrast to Klinsmans more liberal, positive strategy--was a good place to start but not enough for what we need. Though wary, I am optimistic about Simoes (if he really is the dude to get the job.) Exactly, maybe it will facilitate exchange for our NTC/youth coaches who could go in Brazil gaining coaching experience or arranging games/training camps in South America for our various National teams. But the most important thing is that our MNT improve and at least qualify for the Hex, to me that's crucial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Canuck Oranje Six years as a Coach in any one program is a long stay. His are longer than most. Yes, and then he was 1+ years with T&T and less than a year with Honduras. Hence, he could be said to have had two very short stays with MNTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 quote:Originally posted by The Ref The dual role of Coach and TD may have something to do with money. Using the salary budget from both positions in order to meet his salary demands. This is the point I was trying to make. If he is the TD primarily because he needed to draw both salaries that is a pretty weak reason to give him both jobs. Again, I find no fault whatsoever with him as a coach; as the foundation of a new bottom up program I am highly skeptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C. Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 quote:Originally posted by The Beaver One note: When the French FA decided over a decade ago that they needed to do something fresh--even dramatic--to improve their international play, they sent their people--coaches etc--to Brazil for heavy duty training and football indoctrination... Interesting note. I wonder if we would be better served by sending our top Canadian people (Mitchell, Hart, etc...) to regular foreign immersions (Brasil, Netherlands, France, etc...), instead of putting all of our eggs into hiring one foreign coach/technical director? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 quote:Originally posted by David C. Interesting note. I wonder if we would be better served by sending our top Canadian people (Mitchell, Hart, etc...) to regular foreign immersions (Brasil, Netherlands, France, etc...), instead of putting all of our eggs into hiring one foreign coach/technical director? I think our coaches are already participating in such immersion or sessions abroad. I know of a GK coach in the National program who was in the Netherlands a few yrs ago to learn from the dutch goalkeeping training method. It's just that we rarely hear about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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