green_and_gold Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Lets face it, the way Canada played in last world cup qualifying campaign was garbage. Losing to the likes of Guatemala and Hondurus is like being beaten by the Solomon Islands or Vanuautu. What needs to be done is we need a good technicle director from overseas i.e. Holland, who will look after the development and strategies of all levels of Canadian national football teams. Secondly, lets stop calling the sport "soccer". If you want the game to sound more professional and draw more fans call it "football". Other countries who used to call the soccer are now calling it football, just look at Australia now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks fan Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I don't see how calling it football instead of soccer will make us qualify..... In all serious though, you're right about the organization needing to get it together, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest speedmonk42 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 quote:Originally posted by green_and_gold Lets face it, the way Canada played in last world cup qualifying campaign was garbage. Losing to the likes of Guatemala and Hondurus is like being beaten by the Solomon Islands or Vanuautu. What needs to be done is we need a good technicle director from overseas i.e. Holland, who will look after the development and strategies of all levels of Canadian national football teams. Secondly, lets stop calling the sport "soccer". If you want the game to sound more professional and draw more fans call it "football". Other countries who used to call the soccer are now calling it football, just look at Australia now. We need a special 'tard' section for posts like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 quote:Originally posted by speedmonk42 We need a special 'tard' section for posts like this. Be sure to put it to vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green_and_gold Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 quote:Originally posted by speedmonk42 We need a special 'tard' section for posts like this. At least I'm prepared to giving ideas on what needs to be done to improve the game in this country. We had one of the easiest qualifying paths for Germany 2006 and we didn't even come close to qualifying. And all you can do is make stupid comments like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud Mouth Soup Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Is there a cut-and-paste section with this title in it, so that someone can just add this thread once every two weeks? /use the search function, people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Seriously guy, we have to work on our welcome for the newbies.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I just spent a year in Australia and they called it soccer there too. Whenever the Aussies referred to Football, they were talking about Aussie Rules, which is kind of a cross between gaelic football, rugby, and ultimnate fighting challenge. With a name like green and gold, i assume u have seen them play the combined rules vs the gaelic boys (unless ur a norwich fan that is). Its crazy, quite dirty/vicious, can be exciting.. but certainly NOTHING like our football/soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 quote:Originally posted by loyola Seriously guy, we have to work on our welcome for the newbies.... Maybe but if a Newbie is going to compare Guatemala and Honduras with the Solomon Islands or Vanuautu maybe they should work on their soccer knowledge before posting. Not that I disagree with the sentiment that the last WCQ run was crap but Guatemala and Honduras are still decent sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Somebody get in touch with those bastards at Sky Sports in Britain and demand that they immediately change the name of the show 'Soccer AM'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 quote:Originally posted by green_and_gold Lets face it, the way Canada played in last world cup qualifying campaign was garbage. Losing to the likes of Guatemala and Hondurus is like being beaten by the Solomon Islands or Vanuautu. What needs to be done is we need a good technicle director from overseas i.e. Holland, who will look after the development and strategies of all levels of Canadian national football teams. Secondly, lets stop calling the sport "soccer". If you want the game to sound more professional and draw more fans call it "football". Other countries who used to call the soccer are now calling it football, just look at Australia now. Well, The term soccer is used in more english speaking countries around the globe than football. As far as I know the term soccer is used in Canada, US, Ireland, South Africa, Australia, most of the carribean. The UK is only place where I am certain that they refer to the game as "Football". Secondly, we DID NOT have one of the easiest qualifying paths for Germany 2006. We were in to the toughest group of the three in the semifinal stages. However, your point about the whole effort being a dissappointment is valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 There are various theories about the origins of the word soccer but the one thing they have in common is that the term originated in Britain. One of the two British words for the sport became dominant much later in Britain while the other became dominant in the colonies. The two words are both equally legitimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Grizzly There are various theories about the origins of the word soccer but the one thing they have in common is that the term originated in Britain. One of the two British words for the sport became dominant much later in Britain while the other became dominant in the colonies. The two words are both equally legitimate. Yes. I heard something along those lines that: The term soccer was indeed used in Britain. It stuck with the elite or aristocratic types while the term "football" caught on with the working class and since the game became (pretty much) entertainment for the masses or working class, that is how " football" stuck. I remember this comming from Chris ( AKA: Sea the big West Ham supporter) who used to post here and was very much in tune with the english game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 The standard view is that it is a shortening of the term "association football" first used by Charles Wreford-Brown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Wreford-Brown. Here is an alternate theory: http://www.gavinrymill.com/origin-of-the-word-soccer.html. The fact of the matter though is that both were used in England at the time the game became to be organized and standard set of rules was used which was actually not that long ago, roughly 150 years ago. Soccer in its modern form is not really older than American, Irish or Australian football. In many countries rugby was also known as football. Thus, in countries where they already had a game called football the alternate term soccer was used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 The name of this thread: Will Canada ever qualify for a World Cup again? ...12 posts later... quote:Originally posted by Grizzly The standard view is that it is a shortening of the term "association football" first used by Charles Wreford-Brown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Wreford-Brown. Here is an alternate theory: http://www.gavinrymill.com/origin-of-the-word-soccer.html. The fact of the matter though is that both were used in England at the time the game became to be organized and standard set of rules was used which was actually not that long ago, roughly 150 years ago. Soccer in its modern form is not really older than American, Irish or Australian football. In many countries rugby was also known as football. Thus, in countries where they already had a game called football the alternate term soccer was used. Hilarious[8D] I love this board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Well when the plan for glory is a) is hire a Dutch coach and start calling it football. It makes sense that the etymology of association football is pretty germane. As much as the Honduras and Guatemala comments are ignorant, I have to agree with loyola that we should be a lot more welcoming than that. So welcome green and gold> I'm not concerned so much about the nationality of our manager, but his quality. Him being Dutch doesn't make him automatically gifted. I think hiring a manager and getting our COO established and a TD are far more important than symantics like what we call the game. Australia didn't qualify for Germany because they changed the name of the FA. They qualified because they had developed quality players and they hired Guus Hiddink. And even they needed penalties. We need a manager so we can truly use the Gold Cup as a trial run. Then we can experiment and tinker a little bit in the next 8-12 months, but we need a core established by this coming summer. But I'm afraid we're not learning from our mistakes. cheers, matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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