Crazy_Yank Posted February 17, 2007 Author Share Posted February 17, 2007 I wouldn't be suprised to see Toronto as one of MLS' attendance leaders. I think overall the league will break all previous attendance records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john tv Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Gentlemen we are making history in Canada big big big time despite all of effen loud sh....y mouth buddies. Go and stick it to them big big big time those racoon loosers. Are you reading this lm they will loose.Stop sticking it up for them,you only look like an effen fool. Also gentlemen I want you to be the media watch,which has never been done before.We must be there to suppot TFC and ensure that they receive the proper media attention. Sofar only media conferenses seem to get their attention. Hey they already played two games and hey f all in all the papaers.As i said before we must act as the media watch and yes we must demand equal attention,period,sounds like I live in Birmingham rather than Toronto. You know my bar stories well here he was baseball coach etc. Soccer well I don't want people seeing killed he said. You know the funny part he is a superintendant who is buuilding our stadium. I suggested to see a game, no dice he said,all foreigners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud Mouth Soup Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Pre-emptive ranting and lunacy. Nicely done. I'm amazed that you still somehow think I'm some "evil anti-soccer media looser (sic)". Though I expect a full avoidance of this post other than 'effin looser'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud Mouth Soup Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Pre-emptive ranting and lunacy. Nicely done. I'm amazed that you still somehow think I'm some "evil anti-soccer media looser (sic)". Though I expect a full avoidance of this post other than 'effin looser'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 quote:Originally posted by john tv Sofar only media conferenses seem to get their attention. Hey they already played two games and hey f all in all the papaers. Wrong, wrong, wrong. I've seen training camp write-ups in the other papers already, plus two other MLS-related stories (both negative and positive) in the Star this past week. Clearly john, you are too busy ranting and not looking hard enough (which is actually not hard at all). This was made evident when you said that TFC hasn't done any advertising, when in fact there was a lot of advertising alredy seen by a lot of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john tv Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I guess I missed these stories,which paper were they in. I don't read the Sun that often but get The Star and Globe. Are there any writers assigned at the training camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesW Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 The FAN 590's "Soccer Show" was live in Florida last show... You really need to give up your hate of the media, John. James Wadsworth http://canuckreport.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john tv Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Anything in The Star or globe. I did not see it may have missed it.I hate these guys who for years have gone out of their way to ignore Canadian soccer.I hope they will make up for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 John, I'm not trying to be a cheerleader for the Toronto media but what have the media been given to work with? Like it or not, the media is not charitable. You have to make it easy for them to report on what you are doing or they won't bother and not just in Toronto. That applies to media outlets all over North America. TFC will succeed because MLSE have the resources to cater to the media and make it easy to report on the team. The CSA has done a poor job of catering to the media (I have read some of your posts where you detail all of their failures at media relations). The Toronto Lynx were perceived by the media as constant complainers and they stupidly moved the team to Etobicoke, giving the local media the excuse they needed to all but forget about them. The fact that they stunk and haven't posted a winning season in years did not help. I would be curious to see how well the Whitecaps and Impact would be followed by the local media in Montreal and vancouver if they had been as consistently bad as the Lynx were. The 'caps and impact are winning teams and thus are given relatively higher profile than you would expect for teams playing in a "minor" league. The OSA and its member clubs do a good job when it comes to developing youth age players but the lack of a senior level province-wide league has hindered the development of the sport in the province. Their needs to be an equivalent of the OHL for the game to be taken more seriously in this province. The profile of the sport in Ontario would undoubtedly be higher if there were an elite U-20 league in the province (at least 8 teams) that would develop players to play in MLS, USL, CSL or even overseas for the very best players. Because of this lack of an elite level league, the OSA has very little to offer to the major media outlets in this province. People don't buy papers to read about little Jimmy scoring 6 goals for his house league team but they might pay attention if there is a story about an 18 year old phenom setting scoring records and getting the attention of big clubs from MLS and overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealGooner Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 John, this page has all the Star's recent TFC articles. As as said before, they're not hard to find if you look, and you have not been looking. Give the media rant a rest now. http://www.thestar.com/sports/soccer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john tv Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Hey Goonnie I was the very first one to state that i was more or less blown away with the media coverage most of which was because of the various media conferences.I believe that the Star has a reporter in Florida with that funny ball team and i like to think that they will find some time to visit the TFC team. I really have not seen anything at all in print since the last media conference and maybe living in Pickering may have something to do with the paper content. I will not give up on that media till I am satisfied with the results. In reference to the other posting media etc, i have been over this so many times I probably should have saved all my various observations and just inserted them.To make it short the OSA and CSA really have no direct influence on the media at all although in the olden days Norm Dacosta and upon my influence would do articles on the Ontario Cup as wel as the Canadian Championships.The Robbie also received major media attention as well as the various articles about Jonathan. The current soccer writer Cathal Kelly seems to have no interset at all and to the best of my knowledge never ever made it to a TFC media conference. I know that in the long run it will all turn out to be ok and once the first game is played and that stadium will be rocking,well that media will be scretching their heads and wonder were they went wrong in letting this happen.I will be having a ball and as i said before wonder which of these gurus will finally do an intelligent article about that terrible game. Hey Gooner I am after equality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john tv Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Siggy ,ma stands for mother in Dutch,anyway it's all about that gate, those tickets and that pr,meaning marketing and promotion. If things would be equal fine we have a equal change. Yes the media marketing guys did a more than masterfull job and Paul and his staff should be applauded.Yes i believe that stadium will stay to be sold out but here is the catch, none of you guys were old enough to experience the masterfull job the media did on the Blizzard and the NASL as a whole.Surgical destruction. This i want to avoid. We must have the biggies behind us, we must have equal treatment and not lip service. That's what i am fighting for,based upon my raw experience and yet i believe I was one of the best soccer promoter in Toronto.It is crucial that we maintain this still questionable high profile. These media guys don't want soccer believe me and that motivation to perform will be a shrug of their shoulders.All I am saying is that most of you are way to young to remember or even been exposed to it.This ticket sales is marvelous but who is buying. So thank you again TFC but this is only the start of penetrating the N.A fold of a very strong segment of non believers.So here we are a sold out stadium buy only for those that like soccer but hey who are these guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Danny Boy So it leads ME to believe that MLSE is either doing a fantastic job or that Beckham has more pull than we give him credit. I honestly don't believe it's the soccer driving the sales. MLSE is doing a fantastic job, not really of selling the sport to the un-converted masses, but simply of reaching the large market (with some credibility) which already existed here - a market which many of us on this board from the Toronto area had been saying for years existed, but wasn't being properly tapped into. It was mentioned quite frequently on these boards everytime somebody would trot out a Lynx attendace number as proof that Toronto wasn't a soccer market and/or pro soccer could never work here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john tv Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 Yap not me always knew that this market was very big. I realized this when in the olden days during the European cup time the satelite coverage in the various locals drew large crowds and even at 2 in the morning. It and here we go again the media just would not ,anyway now they are sort of boxed in and just have no more excuses. Still waiting for a report from Florida and the Star in particular. Got my seats in section 222 ,don't know if it is good,does not matter in that stadium anyway.With the tickets came an offer for a subscription to SOCCER THREE SIXTY MAGAZINE, stating this was Canada's leading soccer magazine.Price $ 39.00 for 6 issues they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealGooner Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Gian-Luca MLSE is doing a fantastic job, not really of selling the sport to the un-converted masses, but simply of reaching the large market (with some credibility) which already existed here - a market which many of us on this board from the Toronto area had been saying for years existed, but wasn't being properly tapped into. It was mentioned quite frequently on these boards everytime somebody would trot out a Lynx attendace number as proof that Toronto wasn't a soccer market and/or pro soccer could never work here. Any comment DoyleG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 quote:Originally posted by RealGooner Any comment DoyleG? It wont make a make difference at all with those people. They will just trot out some new BS. You kind of need to read between the lines of those posts to understand that, at the root of those arguments, it was never really about whether or not Toronto can support soccer or not. The same applies to MNT games. Remember lines that: "we shouldn't play MNT games in Toronto because you cant get home support because Torontonian are not as loyal Canadians as those in other parts." You are never going to change anyones views on on things like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktci Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. I am surprised there is no such resale possibility for season tix holders in North America, if that is what you are saying. The technology is not that difficult, holders log on to special sections of online ticketing sites, indicate the seats they want to put up for sale, they go into the general pack for sale online, and if someone bites the same system that can charge online rebates online. Not a difficult technology and very practical. Looks like what you're talking about is coming to the NBA: Still with the NBA, it has launched, in partnership with Ticketmaster, a service for consumers unable to attend a game. The fans will be able to sell their tickets on the TicketExchange section of Ticketmaster.com. As well, season-ticket holders can place their tickets for resale on NBA club websites. Link Maybe this is the start of a movement for this to happen in all North American sports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 quote:Originally posted by marktci Looks like what you're talking about is coming to the NBA: Still with the NBA, it has launched, in partnership with Ticketmaster, a service for consumers unable to attend a game. The fans will be able to sell their tickets on the TicketExchange section of Ticketmaster.com. As well, season-ticket holders can place their tickets for resale on NBA club websites. Link Maybe this is the start of a movement for this to happen in all North American sports? That makes alot of sense and gets those damn scalpers out of the equation!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 quote:Originally posted by marktci Looks like what you're talking about is coming to the NBA: Still with the NBA, it has launched, in partnership with Ticketmaster, a service for consumers unable to attend a game. The fans will be able to sell their tickets on the TicketExchange section of Ticketmaster.com. As well, season-ticket holders can place their tickets for resale on NBA club websites. Link Maybe this is the start of a movement for this to happen in all North American sports? Funny how something comes up in one context and there it is in another. Barça calls this the Seient Lliure program, the "Free Seat", free not being used, as of course free as in no cost is a different word in Catalan (gratis). For anyone who reads Spanish it is explained in detail here: http://www.fcbarcelona.com/esp/noticias/noticias/n05122305.shtml Summarizing, those with a league package or complete package (including Champions and Cup, which is habitual in fact), can log on to the ticketing web and put their seats up for sale. They can also call the club office or do it on an ATM machine. If they are sold, at the per game price, the person selling gets half and the club the other half. I see there is now no limit to how many times it can be done, the club used to limit this but now the idea is that it is more important to fill the stadium. You can also log on to see how much you have made freeing up your seat, or if it has been sold yet. If it hasn't you can always get it back, say your brother in law expresses interest and you take it off the market and give it to him. The financial rebate is applied to next year's packages, and they say you can get back as much as 90% of what the deals cost. This works amazingly well for big games, so much so that there is almost always something available. After a certain cut-off point, those not sold online or in the ATM machines are also, simultaneously, made available at the wickets, like on the afternoon before a match. Essentially the three sources drawing from the same pool of available seats. Spoke to some lingering Liverpool supporters over a Guiness last Saturday watching the Sheff Utd match, and everyone had their story, but one group got 5 seats in a row in the third tier, at 93Euros apiece, a few hours before the game. At the wickets, with the scalpers lurking. This is likely because someone freed up all their tickets late, like a whole family on game day in the morning, and there they were for someone to grab when the match was technically sold out to the rafters. The comparisons with a team like TFC are not irrelevant, as when a big chunk of the stadium is given over to season tix holders you limit walk-up, and having sold the premium seats and the cheaper ones, you limit certain types of walk up, high end and popular end. What happens then, on those dog days, inclement weather for example, you have certain sections with nothing available for sale and the game comes along and there are empty seats dotted all over the place in sold out sections as folks just stay home. That hurts fans wanting to go for a one-off, and it hurts the team, as they are not being supported by such a big crowd as they could. Never mind what the system means for extra income for the club, who are essentially reselling tickets already paid for at a quantity discount, only at single unit prices. Final comment: to encourage club members with tickets to do this, the club actually will give gifts to them; those freeing up tix for the Real Madrid visit before a certain day get a soccer ball commemorating the game for the their efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlsintoronto Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 quote:Originally posted by marktci Looks like what you're talking about is coming to the NBA: Still with the NBA, it has launched, in partnership with Ticketmaster, a service for consumers unable to attend a game. The fans will be able to sell their tickets on the TicketExchange section of Ticketmaster.com. As well, season-ticket holders can place their tickets for resale on NBA club websites. Link Maybe this is the start of a movement for this to happen in all North American sports? Toronto FC will have TicketMaster's TicketExchange program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 quote:Originally posted by mlsintoronto Toronto FC will have TicketMaster's TicketExchange program. Great news. Thanks Paul. db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Nigel Reid from The Fan 590 in Toronto just mentioned that Paul Bierne at TFC has told him that there are only 250 season's tickets left. i guess it is time to retitle this thread to 13,750 season tickets sold for Toronto FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Hey Paul, is that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlsintoronto Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 quote:Originally posted by jpg75 Hey Paul, is that right? yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Paul.... it's been 4 days since you confirmed that only 150 season tickets were left...so, are you sold out yet? Rumour has it that all 14K season tickets are now gone. Can you confirm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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