Guest Ed Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Holger has left his FIFA technical committee position to become the head coach of Urawa Red Diamond. Link to German press article: http://www.kicker.de/fussball/intligen/startseite/artikel/359341/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Hmmm, I wonder if he pissed everyone at Fifa too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 quote:Originally posted by The Ref Hmmm, I wonder if he pissed everyone at Fifa too. Or maybe he is taking the job because he is a head coach by trade and wants to practice his trade again instead of sitting in FIFA committees. As head coach of Japan's top team he will probably also be paid significantly more than he was with FIFA and he already has ties to the club as this is his second stint as their head coach. It is interesting to note that the amount of respect/credit given to Osieck and Yallop by many on this board is in inverse relationship to the amount of success they had with the team. Good to know that coaches are being evaluated on the criteria of whether they were nice guys or not. (Though to be fair I am replying to a comment from someone who previously posted that nationality should be a prime consideration for hiring a coach and that we should give priority to hiring a coach from South Africa[:0] ). Ossieck had his flaws as coach but still did more for our MNT and youth development than any coach since Waiters. Interestingly enough the Kicker article states that Klinsmann had chosen Ossieck to join his staff for the WC team but that in final negotiations a deal could not be reached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Keay Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Ed Holger has left his FIFA technical committee position to become the head coach of Urawa Red Diamond. Link to German press article: http://www.kicker.de/fussball/intligen/startseite/artikel/359341/ Wouldn't this be his second stint with that club? I seem to recall him managing there before Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Ryan Keay Wouldn't this be his second stint with that club? I seem to recall him managing there before Canada. Read the thread Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I agree with Grizzly. Despite what many people think of Holger as a person, he was probably the best coach we've ever had. He may have clashed with players, but that is ok with me, because in the end, he brought a continental trophy to the country, that came along with a birth in the Confederations Cup (as well as a Copa America spot, which I believe we refused... I think). It is a coach of his pedigree that Canada needs at this moment. Good for him, and I wish him the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 A good boss does not have to be always liked by everyone in order to be effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Richard A good boss does not have to be always liked by everyone in order to be effective. I agree with RJB and Richard on this one. Holger did all that could be asked of him and more. In the end he wore out his welcome just like a Pat Burns or Mike Keenan but he did make his mark just as those two have done. db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Richard A good boss does not have to be always liked by everyone in order to be effective. I agree with RJB and Richard on this one. Holger did all that could be asked of him and more. In the end he wore out his welcome just like a Pat Burns or Mike Keenan but he did make his mark just as those two have done. db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditty Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 quote:Originally posted by RJB I agree with Grizzly. Despite what many people think of Holger as a person, he was probably the best coach we've ever had. He may have clashed with players, but that is ok with me, because in the end, he brought a continental trophy to the country, that came along with a birth in the Confederations Cup (as well as a Copa America spot, which I believe we refused... I think). It is a coach of his pedigree that Canada needs at this moment. Good for him, and I wish him the best. I think we, along with some other countries, declined the Copa America spot because of fears of security. Does anyone remember any of the details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 If memory serves me right I think we decline because of a conflict of dates about some other plans at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way2goeh Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 "Let's be honest, we'd have to put in some timely goals to do that," said Forrest, well aware that Canada has been blanked in 10 of its last 12 matches some things never change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puskas Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 I remember players like Pesch and a half dozen others whinning that when they come back from stressful European competition they want to have fun and this coach is not letting them. The problem is that Canada is not talented enough to achieve anything with fun, very hard work is required. When the players got their way, they showed how far having fun gets you after a disaster World Cup qualifying where Canada could not even get out of the first group stage. It was humiliating. The players made their choice, they did not want to achieve anything great, they wanted to have fun. Then the CSA made the choice of siding with the players and Canada's development got pushed back wasting away more years. They are still not on the right track. I was the most positive about Canada's National team when he was around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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