red card Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I have dreamt about it; I have smelled it; savoured it- but now the pompous ass actually gets the boot - bigger news than the Chavez of Canada - Flaherty and his Income Trust smackdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River City Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 WOW! Been out of the office all day so this is just sinking in! Happy B-Day gwallaca76. What a gift. Let's just hope this works out for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georg Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Once again, who is Colin Linford and the rest of the Exec. and what do they stand for? Easy to get rid of scapegoat since they did nothing for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid-Tone Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 quote:Originally posted by peterjj1 When the real story comes out on why Kevan Pipe was fired you will all be surprised. hint! it started in 1997............. so you went through all the trouble of signing up on here just to tease us? why would you do that? ---------------- this was a long overdue move. thats 5 world cup's we didn't qualify for, on his watch. not that I'm saying it was all his fault, but at the end of the day he was the one steering the ship........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid-Tone Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 colins linford's only been on the job for a couple of months now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Boy Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Quite the news... I'm surprised it's all quiet on the Richard front. Maybe he's on his way to Ontario for the first interview Actually considering all the major things happening in the Canadian Soccer world I'm surprised that they decided to do this now. Maybe Kerfoot was the last straw? Who knows.. But with the stadium, MLS, and the WYC all in the same time frame, it's still really important to have some form of direction. This might not have been the best time to do it. That being said I'm happy that we have an official "regime change" on our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud Mouth Soup Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Acid-Tone so you went through all the trouble of signing up on here just to tease us? why would you do that? Professional troll/natural c*nt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kungfucultmaster Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Acid-Tone colins linford's only been on the job for a couple of months now. Colin Linford was previously a Director on the CSA board. The Directors are made up of the Provincial and Territorial Association President's. Colin was President of the Ontario Soccer Association. For more information on this story, you can contact Eric Lamoureux, Director of Communications: elamoureux@soccercan.ca (613) 237-7678 X239 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Keeper Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Loud Mouth Soup But were your waffles okay? ...sweetest breakfest ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubuntu Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 A few comment from DeVos on the TSN article. http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/news_story/?ID=182710&hubname=soccer --quote-- Former Canadian captain Jason deVos called the Pipe firing "a changing of the guard." "There will be people, I think, who feel it's long overdue," the veteran defender said from England, where he plays for Ipswich. "Inevitably Kevan bore the brunt of a lot of the frustration on the players' part, but I don't think that anyone held him personally accountable for all the wrongs of Canadian soccer." Still, DeVos said the players have long campaigned for more accountability within the CSA. "The association was never run as a business," deVos said. "If you're unsuccessful in business, the people at the top are held accountable. The biggest frustration that we had as players is there wasn't a great deal of accountability. It seemed like the same people had been running the association for the last 20 years." For players, that's hard to accept. They make a living in a business where if you don't do your job, someone will take it from you. "It's survival of the fittest at its most basic element, being a professional footballer," deVos said. "We didn't feel that same sink-or-swim mentality was present in the association as it was for us on the field," he added. ... DeVos, who has retired from international play, says not being able to represent Canada at the World Cup is his biggest regret. He said the players will ultimately have to put up their hands for Canada's failure to reach the sport's greatest showcase. But errors on the administrative side did not help. "Because for a country like Canada to qualify for the World Cup we've got to get everything right." "If you speak to anyone who's represented the men's team in the last 10 years, they'll probably all say the same thing," he added. "That there were a lot of things that were done by the association which were completely contrary to our main goal which is to qualify for the World Cup." DeVos recalls a World Cup qualifying game in Edmonton against Trinidad and Tobago where he left the dressing room to find a reggae band on the pitch "trying to make them feel at home." "And I thought to myself `You must be kidding me. Would we go to Mexico and have the Barenaked Ladies playing on the pitch?"' Players also chafed at having to fly eight times zones or more and negotiate complex itineraries to arrive in Vancouver for a qualifying match. No doubt, Pipe did not book the reggae band or the plane connections. But he was the top paid official at the association. "A lot of the frustration we felt as players inevitably landed on his doorstep," said deVos. DeVos said he had never had a problem with Pipe on a personal level, calling him courteous, open and professional. "But like I said there was so much wrong with the way things were done, the way things were run, inevitably ... most people held Kevan accountable for that." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Elias That's the irony of it all. Finally got the new stadium, WYC, MLS. And he gets fired now. Is that smoke I smell? And yeah, I also thought this was a late April fools joke when I saw the title. Who knew, it's an early Christmas present. The CSA should go after CFL commissioner Tom Wright who is stepping down at the end of the year. He seems to be liked by most media people, he has done an amazing job with CFL corporate sponsorships, I think he used to be the CEO of Adidas Canada. He's exactly what the CSA needs on the business side of things. That is an excellent idea! db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sKriSh Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 I'm really excited about this news. This could be a turning point for Canadian Soccer, much like Australia several years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 quote:Originally posted by dbailey62 That is an excellent idea! db I agree, sounds like an excellent candidate. Whilst I don't believe Kevan Pipe was personally responsible for all that ails Canadian soccer - he took direction from the CSA board of directors - it is probably not a good idea to leave the same person in that position for as long as the CSA did. Most provincial associations rotate their executive directors much more frequently. I don't support change purely for the sake of change but a new broom every now and then can't do any harm. I wish Kevan Pipe well and thank him for all the positive things he managed to achieve for soccer in Canada, often under very difficult and trying circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 FCK YEAH!! I'LL DRINK TO THIS NEWS!! SCREW THE APOLOGISTS!! THIS IS XMAS IN NOVEMBER!! on a scary note...did you see Watson's name mentioned as a replacement?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesW Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 If the CSA can get the right man to replace him, this could be another huge step for Canadian Soccer. Tom Wright! Tom Wright! Tom Wright! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georg Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 While we are talking about who should replace Kivin Pipe, hpw about Pech's Wife == She doung a good job as G.M in England. Also he got alot to contribute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesW Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 As most of you know, the Soccer Show on the Fan 590 (which just started) will be talking about this. www.fan590.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettermirror Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 kungfucultmaster should be "suspended" for such comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesW Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Bob Iarusci just said "20 years too late." Poor Kevan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Richard Most provincial associations rotate their executive directors much more frequently. Military dictatorships rotate their executive members much more frequently. The change was long overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Oranje Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 My experience with non-profit boards of directors would suggest that they are normally biased towards the status quo. That means I suspect this has been coming for a while. The CSA has been without a publicly stated strategic plan which includes publicly-stated performance goals. I also tend to agree with most of Jason deVos's comments. I also suspect the departure of Bate and Yallop probably hastened the process along. While changing the Executive Director now is not ideal, it is better than waiting a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Pat Onstad just refused to comment on the story but said he had plenty of experience with Kevan.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesW Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Yeah, very clear he has no love for Kevan Pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Suspect this is related to the problems with the women's team right now. Worth noting that Colin Linford appeared to contradict the stance Kevan Pipe has been taking when he talked about mediation in the latest media reports:- http://tinyurl.com/yxqbnj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesW Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 BringBackTheBlizzard, that issue could have been the braking point. But I feel the real issue is that Canada has not gone to the World Cup under Pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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