footballfreak Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 http://fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,118178,00.html?articleid=118178 Let the head scratching begin! Canada (somehow) up 29 places to 54th.[)] Edit: After a short viewing of these rankings, they appear even more stupid than the old system. Good on ya FIFA, just when we thought you couldn't outdo yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 So does this help our players to get working permits in the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAS Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 WOW! THIS IS REALLY SCREWED-UP! BUT IN OUR FAVOUR!!! Ok, looking at the CONCACAF situation, Canada is now ranked sixth, just one spot behind Guatamala. The four teams in the World Cup have all dived, so that now Honduras is ahead of Costa Rica for third, and Canada is ahead of T&T (WTF?). I had a feeling that Canada would benefit from the new system because of the recent friendlies (the 2000 success wasn't counting for much now anyways), but I didn't expect this! Being in the top 70 should get our internationals work permits in Britain. Even more important, it should give Canada easier draws in tournaments - increasing our chances of advancing and improving the team through more games. It should even make it easier to get friendlies. Although it may be over now, maybe, just maybe, we'll get some better applications for head coach - although I doubt it. Now what Canada needs to do is spank Jamaica a couple of times (we'll need to - they have slipped to 78th so will be considered the weaker team), and try to get some friendlies with superior teams. The ranking system may be total bulls**t, but it matters in terms of UK work permits, getting top friendlies, and favourable tournament draws, and should therefore be defended and improved upon if possible. The Jamaica series could put us ahead of Guatamala for fifth in CONCACAF, with Costa Rica and Honduras not far off. We can laugh at these standings, but we should still play the FIFA rankings game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 WTF is right!?!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Wow. Frankie quits and Canada moves up 29 spots while MLS dominated US of A drops a dozen. Verrry interesting. Nigeria 11th? Huh. This new ranking system should be interesting. Certainly isn't going to be any worse than the old one. Not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varsity Tyler Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Wow - this is a bit of a surprise! You know what though, in all reality this is the most accurate the rankings have been in respect to Canada in a long long time. Look at the countries close to us on the new scale: Iran ... 1-0 for the good guys in Cairo, 2001 Japan ... we played them tough last time we met (Confed 2001) Guatemala ... eh, let's not revisit the last WCQ campaign South Korea ... what was it, 2-1 for us in that last Gold Cup match? Wales ... we played them tough Austria ... we spanked them 2-0 in Vienna half a year ago Good stuff FIFA - you may actaully have gotten this one a little more dialed. Let's see how the formula holds up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadasBest Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I guess we can't complain about the new rankings. I still have a hard time seeing why we're ranked so high now for a period over the last 4 years. Our record is: 9 Wins, 3 Draws, 16 Losses. The wins were against: Luxembourg, Cuba, North Ireland, Guatemala, Belize X 2, Barbados, Libya, and Costa Rica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C. Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Yeah, odd that two teams (CR + T&T) that qualify for the World Cup (one of which had a good showing) should drop in our CONCACAF rankings. While I'm happy for our improved standing, I can't seem to figure out what results (in the last 4 years) allowed us to do so. Is it just me or has Anguilla been dropped from the ranking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Varsity Tyler Wow - this is a bit of a surprise! You know what though, in all reality this is the most accurate the rankings have been in respect to Canada in a long long time. Look at the countries close to us on the new scale: Japan ... we played them tough last time we met (Confed 2001) Good stuff FIFA - you may actaully have gotten this one a little more dialed. Let's see how the formula holds up. Do you mean when we managed not to get scored against in the first half, but then ended up getting smacked 3-0?? You must have the same amnesia as others on the board with whom I argued about this very game... One thing that is really weird is that I thought that the prelim. reports were saying that meaningless friendlies werent going to count in the ranking so much...why would most of our decent results in the past four years count for much of anything, then, especially as we tanked in most of our "official" matches?? Hell, I'll take it though...I honestly think that part of the reason why we are where we are in general football terms is because of how much our old (somewhat undesreved )ranking killed is in the set-up of the groups for WCQ. This really does give us a great chance to go somewhere if we can maintain the results for the next couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakwood Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Does anyone else find it odd that Canada is ahead of South Korea? Somehow I can't see us beating Asia's best team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Come to think of it...the asian teams really got snowed in these rankings. I admit that Japan and Korea had heavily inflated rankings. If anything past four years have been wiped from the slate, then I see Korea dropping far, but THAT far?? They proved they could compete in 06, unlike Japan at least...still dumbfounded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varsity Tyler Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 quote: Do you mean when we managed not to get scored against in the first half, but then ended up getting smacked 3-0?? You must have the same amnesia as others on the board with whom I argued about this very game... eh it was 5 or so years ago ... gimme a break, lol I remember Pesch coming close a couple times ... and I think I remember Xausa blowing a chance. Forrest did make saves to keep us in it though - was it Ono that blasted it into his chest from 6 yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C. Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Last 4 year results (from the CSA website): http://www.canadasoccer.com/eng/nationals/m_wc/results.asp?sub=2 3/1/2006 Canada 2, Austria 0 Vienna, Austria 1/22/2006 Canada 0, USA 0 San Diego, CA, USA 11/16/2005 Canada 1, Luxembourg 0 Luxembourg 9/3/2005 Canada 1, Spain 2 Santander, Spain 7/12/2005 Canada 2, Cuba 1 Boston, MA - Gold Cup 7/9/2005 Canada 0, USA 2 Seattle, WA - Gold Cup 7/7/2005 Canada 0, Costa Rica 1 Seattle, WA - Gold Cup 7/2/2005 Canada 1, Honduras 2 Burnaby, BC 3/26/2005 Canada 1, Portugal 4 Barcelos, Portugal 2/9/2005 Canada 1, Northern Ireland 0 Belfast, Northern Ireland 11/17/2004 Canada 1, Guatemala 0 Guatemala City, Guatemala 10/13/2004 Canada 1, Costa Rica 3 Burnaby, BC 10/9/2004 Canada 1, Honduras 1 San Pedro Sula, Honduras 9/8/2004 Canada 0, Costa Rica 1 San Jose, Costa Rica 9/4/2004 Canada 1, Honduras 1 Edmonton, AB 8/18/2004 Canada 0, Guatemala 2 Burnaby, BC 6/16/2004 Canada 4, Belize 0 Kingston, ON - World Cup Qualifying 6/13/2004 Canada 4, Belize 0 Kingston, ON - World Cup Qualifying 5/30/2004 Canada 0, Wales 1 Wrexham, Wales 1/18/2004 Canada 1, Barbados 0 Bridgetown, Barbados 11/18/2003 Canada 0, Rep. of Ireland 3 Dublin, Ireland 11/15/2003 Canada 1, Czech Republic 5 Teplice, Czech Republic 10/11/2003 Canada 2, Finland 3 Tampere, Finland 7/14/2003 Canada 0, Cuba 2 Gold Cup - Foxboro, Massachusetts 7/12/2003 Canada 1, Costa Rica 0 Gold Cup - Foxboro, Massachusetts 6/1/2003 Canada1, Germany 4 Wolfsburg, Germany 3/29/2003 Canada 1, Estonia 2 Tallinn, Estonia 2/12/2003 Canada 4, Libya 2 Tripoli, Libya 1/18/2003 Canada 0, USA 4 Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 10/15/2002 Canada 1, Scotland 3 Edinburgh, Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varsity Tyler Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Breakwood Does anyone else find it odd that Canada is ahead of South Korea? Somehow I can't see us beating Asia's best team. We've tied and beaten them the last two times we met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Varsity Tyler eh it was 5 or so years ago ... gimme a break, lol I remember Pesch coming close a couple times ... and I think I remember Xausa blowing a chance. Forrest did make saves to keep us in it though - was it Ono that blasted it into his chest from 6 yards? no worries...I was here for the game so still remember it somewhat. Yeah, it was Xausa's best game for Canada - he was really dangerous in the first half...and yes, it was Ono's coming out party for Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Yeah, I suppose the new system appears more accurate than the previous one, though I cannot quite fathom South Korea ranking lower than us, and cannot fathom Finland and Wales ranking lower than us--though they shouldn't be too much a head of us, either. We lost to both teams not that long ago, the Finnish game by quite a margin. We may have had a mediocre team for Finland--I cannot recall--but I do remember our losing quite handily. I think we are top 60, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 quote:Originally posted by gwallace76 I guess we can't complain about the new rankings. I still have a hard time seeing why we're ranked so high now for a period over the last 4 years. Our record is: 9 Wins, 3 Draws, 16 Losses. The wins were against: Luxembourg, Cuba, North Ireland, Guatemala, Belize X 2, Barbados, Libya, and Costa Rica. That record is out of date, as there is also a 2-0 win against Austria in Vienna to consider. Having said that, result wise this ranking still might be slightly generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 quote:Originally posted by The Beaver We lost to both teams not that long ago, the Finnish game by quite a margin. We may have had a mediocre team for Finland--I cannot recall--but I do remember our losing quite handily. We lost 3-2. It was 3-0 at the half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Start fan in exile Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 England climbed but Portugal fell? WTF? [] Canada's just 2 places below Norway now...before there was about 40 places difference! Whoo-hoo - welcome to the neighbourhood! [)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timotas Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 This is weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I think this is a good spot for us right now. If you look at the teams around us, they all would be great even games. 54 and moving up with the two Jamica games....CANADA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 No research has gone into this statement, BUT these rankings seem more in line with ELO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstackho Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Rudi We lost 3-2. It was 3-0 at the half. That sounds right. I remember being down 3-0 and watching the delayed broadcast on Sportsnet. They were nice enough to show the final result of 3-2 on the ticker at the bottom of the screen, so we knew to keep our eyes open. [] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 hehe Canada were the biggest improved country of all Forza new Fifa rankings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Seychelles + 35 Guyana + 31 Equatorial Guinea + 59 Ukraine + 30 Canada + 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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