USL D1 Playoffs - Semifinals [R]

[Gordon]

Oh my. I believe the ball is now in Krammerhead's court.

[DarnCherry]

Ahh yes. The guy who goes to Spain for a few years, comes back and now is telling us who to cheer for, who our rivals are, and that we don;t know the history of our team.

Yes Seattle are our rivals. However I haven't been away, I know things have changed.

quote:Then when you have a longstanding rivalry in the form of the Sounders, who I always want to see at the bottom of the table, the kumbayas come along and start singing about peace love and understanding.

Totally clueless you are. Maybe had you not been away for along time you might have a sense of local history.

quote:The killer is that these are the guys, if you read their webs and follow their posts, who are the self-proclaimed radical fans

Now you are upset with our boards. I suppose that we shouldn't have them then? If you actually read the boards you'd see that nobody is radical. The Sounders board certainly isn't, and if you are talking about my board (not related to the southsiders by the way) I hardly proclaimed we are radical. It just states that the southsiders were started as a way for the fan who likes to be loud, drink and have fun at the game to do so away from the fans who'd rather catch shirts shot from the mascot, or spend the game running around like a playground. Thats hardly radical and certainly nothing to get in a huff about. These boards were started by fans to promote the sport and the game. Shame they upset you so.

quote:the ones who say "boo", the visiting keeper bobbles the ball, and they come on this board -a Canadian soccer board I thought- and congratulate themselves publicly for how much they help the team with their hard core chanting. And crapping on the other 99.2% of the fans at the stadium who are not as "committed" as them.

This seems to be aimed at sounderfan. Well lets see, he posted on the Canadian Clubs section of the board and his posts were about games involving Montreal. Seems on topic to me. All he was doing was promoting the games. Outside of DJT and a few others I didn't see a whole load of Canadians on this baord wanting to talk about our domestic pro-teams. Oh, and please, we are always crapping on those not as committed as us? What is your big problem with those that want to create some atmosphere at the games. Seems your type are theones always crapping on us.

quote:Rivalries are rivalries, just because you find your rival "nice" and can drink with him does not mean you start rooting for his team.

Perhaps a little knowledge about the league on your part might smarten you up. Do you really think it's the best for the league if powerhouses like Montreal and Rochester get to host and win the championships each year? Do you not think that a west coast team getting to hold the championship for once and possibly win it might strengthen a fan base in Seattle that has drastically shrunk over the years and that might be a benefit to the Whitecaps? Because a strong Seattle means they may last a few years more. You won't have your fancy rivalry with Seattle if they fold. Oh but no, I suppose your sense of history and rivalry with Seattle means you'd love it if they dropped out of the league.

quote:In the end you realize that the cowardly way Vancouver plays, with so much potential offense and a strong defense but no balls to go ahead and take a game from an inferior, is highly reflective of the Vancouver mentality.

Fine, you don't like the Vancovuer mentality then go back to Spain. Maybe they can remove the bulls horn that so obviously got jammed up your bum when you were over there.

[Kurosawa1555362267]

quote:Originally posted by zacRWE

About the quote that Biello made, (Sutton missing the ball). I dont like how he said that. It kinda sounds like he's blaming Sutton or at least calling him out. I didnt see the goal and Sutton may deserve it but hey, Montreal gave up four goals in two games.... there D should be blamed. They had such a good season of playing D, too give up four when it matters is unthinkable! (Montreal only gave up 15 all year!)

When he said it (in french) there was no blame at all, he was just stating the fact that Sutton made a little mistake and that Seattle took advatage of it.

[Johnnie Monster]

Spain Boy Jeffrey S. hasn't got a clue what he's talking about.

If he were actually here he'd know that much of the venom Vancouver fans once aimed at Seattle has shifted towards Portland. Not all of it, but quite a bit.

He'd also know that today's Seattle fans are nothing but pure class who have always made visiting Vancouver fans welcome.

And while Portland fans have had their moments, I'll give 'em full props for joining us in a moment of silence for Domenic Mobilio. They didn't have to, but they did... because aside from all the head to head animosity, the fans in the three Cascadia cities do share a considerable respect for each other's organizations.

Let's face it - our three-way rivalry has survived for years despite the fact we are smothered by a predominantly eastern-based league... and that's something we're all justifiably proud of.

We wouldn't be what we are today if it wasn't for the rivalry and passion shared by the fans in all three cities.

Was I cheering Seattle ahead of Montreal? Damn straight. And I know that it was a Vancouver final v. the Impact, many Portland and Seattle fans would cheer the Caps.

Nobody in Vancouver gives a damn about Canadian loyalties.

We could care less about the Lynx, and we laughed our asses off when the Impact flamed out to the Sounders. Good riddance! A big thanks goes to Seattle for "taking out the trash."

As for the final, I'll be pleased to join the ECS as they beat the stank out of the Kickers. God knows we won't be holding any championship matches in Vancouver under Bob Lilley.

[Mr.Impact]

quote:Originally posted by Johnnie Monster

Spain Boy Jeffrey S. hasn't got a clue what he's talking about.

If he were actually here he'd know that much of the venom Vancouver fans once aimed at Seattle has shifted towards Portland. Not all of it, but quite a bit.

He'd also know that today's Seattle fans are nothing but pure class who have always made visiting Vancouver fans welcome.

And while Portland fans have had their moments, I'll give 'em full props for joining us in a moment of silence for Domenic Mobilio. They didn't have to, but they did... because aside from all the head to head animosity, the fans in the three Cascadia cities do share a considerable respect for each other's organizations.

Let's face it - our three-way rivalry has survived for years despite the fact we are smothered by a predominantly eastern-based league... and that's something we're all justifiably proud of.

We wouldn't be what we are today if it wasn't for the rivalry and passion shared by the fans in all three cities.

Was I cheering Seattle ahead of Montreal? Damn straight. And I know that it was a Vancouver final v. the Impact, many Portland and Seattle fans would cheer the Caps.

Nobody in Vancouver gives a damn about Canadian loyalties.

We could care less about the Lynx, and we laughed our asses off when the Impact flamed out to the Sounders. Good riddance! A big thanks goes to Seattle for "taking out the trash."

As for the final, I'll be pleased to join the ECS as they beat the stank out of the Kickers. God knows we won't be holding any championship matches in Vancouver under Bob Lilley.

ah yes....ladies and Gentleman.....you have just read Johnnie M's attempt at the West Vs East Flame. Next he'll be telling you that he sits during the Canadian anthem, and sings along to the American Anthem. He also doesn't mind seeing the Queens ugly mug on OUR $20 bill. Stop kissing American Stank ass, and start supporting Canadian soccer.

[zacRWE]

quote:Originally posted by Kurosawa

When he said it (in french) there was no blame at all, he was just stating the fact that Sutton made a little mistake and that Seattle took advatage of it.

fair game! thanks man! Final will have 5,000 peeps and will be a 1-0 game for Seattle.

[DarnCherry]

quote:Originally posted by Mr.Impact

ah yes....ladies and Gentleman.....you have just read Johnnie M's attempt at the West Vs East Flame. Next he'll be telling you that he sits during the Canadian anthem, and sings along to the American Anthem. He also doesn't mind seeing the Queens ugly mug on OUR $20 bill. Stop kissing American Stank ass, and start supporting Canadian soccer.

I've seen Johnnie leading the cheers at 2 WCQ's the last time around (getting hauled away for leading pro Canadian chants by police and security), and at 2 Canada "B" games last time they were playing out here. I've seen Johnnie leading the chants for all Whitecaps games against American opposition including singing out the loudest the Canadian anthem and do a hell of a lot more to support Canadian soccer than a little pissant like you.

Basically you hardly measure up to Johnniemonster when it comes to supporting Canadian soccer. So go back to shaving your head, stealing banners and stealing and trying to burn visiting fans scarves (just make sure you steal it from a woman again so your safe).

Leave supporting Canadian soccer to people that really do it.

[Daniel]

I'd NEVER cheer for Rochester to win, I can't see how dedicated fans can actually cheer on their chief rival (instead of staying neutral).

[Cheeta]

I tell you honestly it's a bit hard for me to understand, cheering your principal rival onto success' your side couldn't achieve. I'd rather see them sent down in a burning, twisted, mess of a wreck with no survivors.

As mentioned though, geographic pride seems to be playing an important role. Keep it in the West sort of thing. Fair enough. But still a hard thing to understand. It'll be a cold day in Hell's half acre before I ever root for Saskatchewan to win the Grey Cup.

[Richard]

Arch rivals or otherwise I just look forward to a good, clean, competitive and entertaining game of football. That's what I root for.

[Kurosawa1555362267]

To get back on topic, here are two of my favorite pictures from the Montreal Ultras.

Picture 1

Picture 2

I had lots of fun, despite the loss. I'm already looking forward to next season.

Images converted to links to make page narrower - Admin

[SeanKeay]

I have a feeling it was that little kid who stole rochesters banner.... he has the eyes of a devil [}]

And if thats anyones kid on this board, i am joking.. its a nice picture to see a kid enjoying tifo atmosphere! we need more of them

[Guest HamiltonSteelers]

I just want to respond to this:

quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead

Outside of DJT and a few others I didn't see a whole load of Canadians on this baord wanting to talk about our domestic pro-teams.

I could post the *cough* unbiased match reports regarding the Thunder in the CPSL here, except:

1) I would lower the bar as far as match reports went

2) We have a site dedicated to said match reports and club at http://www.thundercrew.com

3) Many who hit our site hits this one, thus, render our site unnecessary

4) As much as I like the subtle anti-CPSL flame wars that crop up from time to time (not that some of those flames aren't warranted), I'd rather keep it isolated to our own site

Which is why we'll name-drop our website from time to time, and interested parties can check us out. There is no need to pressure an already dedicated footie-lot with our bits.

Aside from 'Caps fans supporting/hating Seattle, the issue of rivalry is different with each supporter. When I say I hate London City, it is personal, since their coach decided to take it upon himself to insult me directly. And hoping that City drop off of the face of the earth is something that would be nice. That being said, I would hope that another team in London would surface that has nothing to do with the Gauss' and I would be pleased for them with no animosity.

Personally, I agree that Seattle winning can do nothing but help a shrinking club. Up the Sounders!

[Mr.Impact]

quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead

I've seen Johnnie leading the cheers at 2 WCQ's the last time around (getting hauled away for leading pro Canadian chants by police and security), and at 2 Canada "B" games last time they were playing out here. I've seen Johnnie leading the chants for all Whitecaps games against American opposition including singing out the loudest the Canadian anthem and do a hell of a lot more to support Canadian soccer than a little pissant like you.

Basically you hardly measure up to Johnniemonster when it comes to supporting Canadian soccer. So go back to shaving your head, stealing banners and stealing and trying to burn visiting fans scarves (just make sure you steal it from a woman again so your safe).

Leave supporting Canadian soccer to people that really do it.

Lets get a few things straight;

1)I was responding to a post by Johnnie Monster, who are you is lover?

2)I have hair, and have no relation what so ever with any Montreal Impact support group. I also have a Job, and don't require a bus pass to go cash a SS cheque at the beginning of the month.

3)I support Canadian Soccer, and don't spend my time posting on American based boards, and taking sides with a bunch of whining losers from ROTchester. In your case of birds of a feather....well you know the rest ...

4)Dont bend over next time Seattle is in town

[Guest Jeffery S.]

Final comment.

Krammer comes on a thread on the USL semi finals and congratulates Seattle. It is a pure troll, no content, short, not reasoned, meant to provoke. A troll is a troll is a troll on any site.

This is a Canadian soccer supporter board. Most folks support it. Most if not all prefer Canadian clubs to win, Canadian players to shine. The better their clubs do, the better for the general interest. If you do not share that interest go somewhere else. Krammerhead indeed went elsewhere (mostly BigSoccer) when folks decided not to pander to him anymore, his little fit and whine was classic. Then he came back. Why?

Krammerhead spends most of his time here fishing for Brownie points. The post defending Johnie Monster is a pathetic example of him fishing for them for someone else. He was arrested or whatever, so what? That does not prove anything. I am sick of folks without a life coming on here and trying to use soccer to somehow get one. I have been arrested twice (charges dropped) and been in police custody four times. Who the phuck cares, it does not mean bull.

They tell me hey, well, you've been away and since you've been gone we've changed loyalties. Now we don't have any rivals in Vancouver, we are friends with Seattle. Things have changed. Great. You leave Glasgow and a few years later find out that Celtic are cheering for Rangers, go back to your Merseyside home and discover Everton fans celebrated Liverpool's European Cup, go see family in Lisbon and see how much they want Porto to win. Leaf's fans root for Les Canadiens, the Eskimo supporters really want the Stamps to win, the lion lies down with the lamb, you beat your swords into pruning hooks, there is peace on earth. My reaction is supposed to be okay, great.

Hey, wait a minute sucker... That is pure ****e, and coming from self-defined "true" fans is even limper. Take a poll, ask those Caps fans in the stands with their kids you despise, or the oldtimers who have a clue and are not just empty vessels waiting to be filled, who is Vancouver's main rival, the team they most want to beat. I would bet Seattle comes out top, followed by Portland. I would bet Seattle would come up over 50% of the time by Whitecaps fans of all types. Like me. Seattle is Vancouver's natural rival in sport. Who were the team the Grizzlies most wanted to beat? A bunch of newbies jumping around and drinking are not going to change that.

Finally, I am a trained historian. I have lectured before the BC Historical Society. When Vancouver turned 100 my research project was used as the lead on the front page of the related Globe and Mail article that very day. This is my message to the revisionists. Plenty of BCers wanted to join the USA at the time the province voted to join Confederation. Some were disappointed by the result and left. If you are disappointed that BC is part of Canada, then maybe you should do the same. You tried it before K-Head, and it made this board a lot better reading.

A last edit. Good of you to remind us how to spell Lenarduzzi on that Duz-Saputo thread. Butt-licking has never been so refined.

[sounderfan]

If Vancouver had made the Final and the Sounders hadn't, I'd be rooting for the Caps.

I've been a Sounders season ticket holder since the NASL days. I also have conversed with Krammer back and forth over the years from starting the Cascadia Cup to dealing with rival fans in other cities.

He always adds something new and often funny or off the cuff to our boards.

Just because you don't like what someone says or how that say it doesn't mean that person should "go away."

That would be just too "Bush/American" on your part. I don't think any of us want that, do we?

[DoyleG]

Why does this sound like when people asked why I supported Baltimore over the Lions in the Grey Cup.

[Grizzly]

quote:Originally posted by DoyleG

Why does this sound like when people asked why I supported Baltimore over the Lions in the Grey Cup.

Man, after we all thought you were some far-right Canadian nationalist we find out that you supported Baltimore over BC. So I guess it is only far-right and we can remove the Canadian nationalist part just like the website you promote that urges us all to send money to the good American soldiers in Iraq. What a good cause, those boys that fight for freedom.

And cheers to all those Whitecap fans who have fought with security and the police and been arrested and sowhat through no fault of their own but never forget to mention the one time that a girl almost</u> had her scarf stolen in Montreal. This is of course much worse than fighting with security and the police and one of the worst examples of football hooliganism that I have heard. The Impact and their fans should be shunned for at least the next decade by all honourable Canadian soccer fans because of this incident. And after all of Johnnie M's good support for Canada in the WCQ he states that noone in Vancouver gives a damn about Canadian loyalties. Well the PQ is recruiting or would you rather join some American neo-Conservative unite America against the world group.

Personally I could care less who Krammerhead, Doyle G or anyone else supports. I always support Canadian teams over American teams but if anyone else doesn't think that way that is their business and as we do not live in a dictatorship they are free to do so. However, all this whining about who did and said what is turning this thread into a waste of time.

To get back to the game which I did attend. Montreal dominated possesion like much of the year but were also not very dangerous on the attack which was also typical. I also don't understand why Gbeke did not come on earlier or why he did not start as he was Montreal's best player when he came on. He can be a bit lazy at times but has the skills of a striker, can receive and make a good pass and unlike when he played with the Lynx he is only required to be a striker not to come back and help out with the defence and in this role he is very strong. I attended roughly half of the Impact's home games and I don't think I saw Sutton make a mistake all year but both goals were poor keeping in this game. The first was an easy shot that he never should have let go for a rebound and he was off his line for the second. Lets hope this was a one game thing. After his performance against Spain I watched Braz a lot in this game and as usual he did not stand out. It is strange because he always plays decently but doesn't outperform Gervais, Leduc, Pizzolito who have all more or less stunk on national team duty. I think Braz lacks outstanding technical skill but he makes very few mistakes and is very good positionally and in anticipating play. It seems like he is able to maintain these abilities at higher levels as well. Obviously he is someone who needs to play at a higher level and even if he never becomes and outstanding player seems to have the ability to become a very competent and dependable player at a higher level than he is currently playing.

[sounderfan]

It is true that Krammer had the good sense to support the Sounders over Montreal. But now the Sounders are facing Richmond. Is it OK if he STILL hopes Seattle wins?