Female versus male soccer results

[kennyc]

I attended the Canada/Germany women's match earlier tonight with a buddy. The difference in calibre between the two teams, and most of the individual players, showed itself early and often, and the final 3-1 score in favour of the Germans, I felt, rather flattered the Canadians. My friend didn't fully agree, finding the game to have been more evenly contested. This led to a brief discussion about how many of the Canadians could hypothetically win a spot on the German side. Optimistically, 3 or 4 (Lang? Hooper? Sinclair, who didn't play?), I thought; a good half dozen, he said. This led to other hypothetical scenarios, particularly involving adult women's teams pitted against men's. On this topic my friend was far less generous than was I. He opined that a typical CIS Canadian university men's team would have no problem defeating either of the women's teams we watched tonight. Based on Canada's performance this evening, it was a little more difficult to argue the point, but I still maintained that the Canadian women would do just fine against the average CIS level of male player, and that the superior German squad would handily defeat a UBC or SFU (still NAIA, I think) team. The size of a good number of the German women and even the pace of several of the others gave nothing away, as far as I was concerned, to young university-age men playing in Canada, and even if there was any physical disadvantage it would be overwhelmed by the superior ball skills, the overall fully mature soccer sense, and the team cohesion of the Germans. Of course, this sort of hypothetical discussion has brought about tennis' Riggs vs King, golf's Sorenstam and Wie competing in the PGA, and hockey's Wickenheiser playing pro in Finland. My question is, is there much of a history of women's teams competing against men's teams, particularly in Europe? If any examples of high level matches between teams of the opposite sex exist, I would be quite interested in learning about the results.

[John S.]

When my son played on a U14 boys team in Western Pennsylvania his coach was the assistant women's soccer coach at the University of Pittsburgh. The boys played in a weekend soccer tournament against the University of Pittsburgh varsity women (NCAA Division I), American University women (NCAA Division I) and against the Beadling U18 girls team (Pennsylvania girls club champions). The boys team took the place of a women's university team that had to cancel. To make a long story short - the boys won the tournament and were unscored upon. So - 13 and 14 year-old boys on an elite club team (this team was also a Pennsylvania champion), defeated three 18-20 year-old women's teams. Single biggest factor was the foot speed of the boys. They were much faster at every position, against every team. I think USA or Canada U16 national team boys would be able to handle Canada or the U.S. National Team women. Speed kills.

[Chet]

The Canadian women's team often plays against boys teams during their training camps. It's usually local U-18 or U-16 club teams. During the recent camp they played a U-17 team who they defeated handily 6-0, and a team from Abbotsford who they tied 0-0.

I think there are a half-dozen players in the Canadian program who could make the German team: Sinclair, Hooper, Timko, Thorlakson, Morneau.... Likely only Sinclair and Timko would be starters though. But there are probably an equal number of German players not playing for the national team who could also fit in well. They have a lot of depth thanks to the quality of the Bundesliga.

There are a half-dozen goalkeepers in the Canadian player pool who I would choose ahead of Rottenberg.

[Guest speedmonk42]

The german women would not stand a chance against any decent mens team. I am not being mean. Mia Hamm when asked this question said there is no comparison. The US Womens team regularly trains against U16 Boys and kets killed by them like 6-0.

It is not the physical side in a hard hitting sense at all. It is the 2 and 3 step speed that makes the difference. Men are more explosive and soccer in many respects is a 3 step game.

[maxG]

quote:Originally posted by kennyc

Based on Canada's performance this evening, it was a little more difficult to argue the point, but I still maintained that the Canadian women would do just fine against the average CIS level of male player, and that the superior German squad would handily defeat a UBC or SFU (still NAIA, I think) team.

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[JayWay]

quote:Originally posted by Chet

The Canadian women's team often plays against boys teams during their training camps. It's usually local U-18 or U-16 club teams. During the recent camp they played a U-17 team who they defeated handily 6-0, and a team from Abbotsford who they tied 0-0.

I remember an episode of Direct Kicks for Chicks from a couple years back where they showed highlites from such a game. The girls got absolutely trounced.

[DJT]

The full Canadian women's national team lost 6-0 against a Moroccan U18 team in 2001. CSA story here.