Breakwood Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 The new Fifa rankings are out and Canada have moved up to 84th spot ahead of Scotland (85th) and behiend Panama (83rd). http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,108551,00.html?articleid=108551 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Mexico is 5th despite a disappointing tourney for them while the US is now in 6th place. Two thirds of the top 6 teams in the world are from Concacaf, allegedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 We need a tournament at Commonwealth in November, officially called "Canada Cup," but code named "FIFA Points:" Egypt Saudi Arabia Tunisia Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 ANY Canada Cup will be good right now . We need domestic friendlies, especially in Eastern Canada (eg. Montreal, Toronto, etc.). A tourney in Montreal could also be a big draw crowd-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Wow, poor Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueviking Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 6th.....ahead of france, england, spain, portugal and germany????!!!!....with a bunch of guys who couldnt make it in the english championship division?...i dont get it...when is the last result the americans had against a top 15 team?...other than mexico... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 FOR THE LAST TIME FIFA RANKINGS ARE CALCULATED ACCORDING TO CRITERIA WHICH ADVANTAGES THE CONCACAF POWERHOUSES. Can we stop with the whole "This team would beat that team" stuff? The USA is killing in the Hex and the GC while France was decent at the Euro and is crapping in WCQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 quote:Originally posted by youllneverwalkalone We need a tournament at Commonwealth in November, officially called "Canada Cup," but code named "FIFA Points:" Egypt Saudi Arabia Tunisia Canada Great idea. Let's revive the Canada Cup. Your choice of countries is interesting, but why not at least one Concacaf country, maybe Panama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Boy Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 quote:Originally posted by youllneverwalkalone We need a tournament at Commonwealth in November, officially called "Canada Cup," but code named "FIFA Points:" Egypt Saudi Arabia Tunisia Canada Throw Israel in there and we'd get some TV revenue to boot. That just might cover security costs though. Would Jamaica or Mexico not be good? We have to play them come WCQ anyways, why not get the practice we need. I think there are a few Jamaicans in Toronto who might be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Commonwealth in November, eh? Does ANYONE recall the 2002 Grey Cup? For that matter, does anyone remember 2004 WCQ in Edmonton??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 We are still ranked only 10th best in CONCACAF. A Canada Cup tournament is a great idea for given our North American based players some much needed matches in Canada, great for our international soccer starved fans, and a great opportunity to market our product through media exposure. 8 countries divided into two groups of four. The top two would go on to semi-finals, with the winners meeting in a final. A total of 15 games, which means that every WYC city could host at least two matches, with the top two cities (whichever they may be) hosting a semifinal, and the final would of course have to be played in Vancouver, since this has always been Canada's soccer capital. Would make a great great dress rehersal for running a tournament before WYC 2007, if the CSA could organize such an event next year prior to the World Cup for teams that did not qualify. The States might even be interested in playing as a tune-up for the World Cup. The more CONCACAF nations playing in it, the better the experience for Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishman Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I think the point about a Canada Cup in November, at Commonwealth, is tongue in cheek. The opponents mentioned, umm, might have an issue with the elements, and as such, Code Name: FIFA Points, might just be Mission: Possible. The tournament could be run in conjunction with The Heritage Classic - Revisited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timotas Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Well it's always nice to see us move up in the rankings. The higher we get the better it is for our team, even though the majority of fans think the FIFA Rankings mean swat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I guess it's dumb to disrespect the countries listed above. You never know as they say. It does seem to me that they're ranked awfully high and, in all seriousness, why don't we try to pick up some FIFA points? We've got nothing else to do for the next few years. A loss against Spain and a win against Luxembourg should put us... wait let me do the math... okay, according to my calcuations... 84th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueviking Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Danny Boy throw belize in there...we do well against them....does vatican city have a team?....how fast could they run all wearing those pointy hats?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 quote:Originally posted by youllneverwalkalone I guess it's dumb to disrespect the countries listed above. You never know as they say. It does seem to me that they're ranked awfully high and, in all seriousness, why don't we try to pick up some FIFA points? We've got nothing else to do for the next few years. A loss against Spain and a win against Luxembourg should put us... wait let me do the math... okay, according to my calcuations... 84th! I agree 100$. Talk about a pair of useless friendlies. I don't see us beating Spain and if we don't beat Luxembough...... Anyway, Frank needs to make up is mind. Is he going to pass or shoot. Right now, is doing one of those in between things. My suggestion to Frank is to stick with a North American based nucleus. Get these guys as much playing time together so they can jell as a cohesive unit. When the important matches come up, he can always call up the in form European who are getting regular playing time with their clubs. Relying solely on European based players has proven time again not to work for Canada. Costa Rica, Jamaica, Guatemala, Trinidad, Panama, Honduras, El Salvador just to name a few CONCACAF countries don't use that approach. They usually have two or three overseas players on their rosters. Why can't we learn that lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derosario23 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 What ever happened to that tourney we were suposed to play in england against South Africa, Australia and Iran guess it won't happen. That would be great all those teams are in our league more so than spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I no the FIFA rankings do not really matter to us, or even help us make the WC. However, to help improve the image of Canadian Soccer i think the CSA should have the rest of 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008 deicated increase Canada's FIFA ranking. The 30 would be a nice goal to reach. We could use a B team for most of the game in N.A and and A team for some harder games vs. the USA/Mexico/Other top 30 teams. If we had a tourny atleast once a year, plus 2 friendlies a month vs. smaller counties in CONCACAF it would be perfect. Think of all the home games! The team could travel the country even play in Toronto and HAMILTON! Lets contact the CSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Derosario23 What ever happened to that tourney we were suposed to play in england against South Africa, Australia and Iran guess it won't happen. That would be great all those teams are in our league more so than spain Well, the most games you're allowed to fit in an international break is 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamIAm Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 quote:Originally posted by trueviking 6th.....ahead of france, england, spain, portugal and germany????!!!!....with a bunch of guys who couldnt make it in the english championship division?...i dont get it...when is the last result the americans had against a top 15 team?...other than mexico... I know, it's amazing the things that can happen when you can make it to the World Cup and perform decently. We know the rankings are waay too flattering but b/c the 98 Cup means almost nothing now the US is going to be ranked accordingly by the only organization that the rankings really matter, FIFA. Seriously, all of those euro teams you listed haven't played since when again? And we don't have the same level of competition but it's not like the european teams don't play their fair share of minnows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Robert I agree 100$. Talk about a pair of useless friendlies. I don't see us beating Spain and if we don't beat Luxembough...... Anyway, Frank needs to make up is mind. Is he going to pass or shoot. Right now, is doing one of those in between things. My suggestion to Frank is to stick with a North American based nucleus. Get these guys as much playing time together so they can jell as a cohesive unit. When the important matches come up, he can always call up the in form European who are getting regular playing time with their clubs. Relying solely on European based players has proven time again not to work for Canada. Costa Rica, Jamaica, Guatemala, Trinidad, Panama, Honduras, El Salvador just to name a few CONCACAF countries don't use that approach. They usually have two or three overseas players on their rosters. Why can't we learn that lesson. Do I get a $100 for agreeing? I hope not, because I don't think playing Spain is useless. I know I and many other Canadian supporters will take great utility from this match. Still, if we can only draw 5-10k at home regardless, why not try to pad the rankings a bit and take advantage of the odd team who is clearly misranked by FIFA. That's all I'm saying. Also, those late fall/early winter games from Moscow and Kiev look pretty cool. Why not try to squeeze in a home game in November instead of playing Luxembourg? I guess it's done now. So I hope we get to see the likes of Gyaki, Fernandes, Edgar, Ledgerwood on November 16 -the birthdate I share with Paul Scholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timotas Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 quote:Originally posted by youllneverwalkalone I guess it's done now. So I hope we get to see the likes of Gyaki, Fernandes, Edgar, Ledgerwood on November 16 -the birthdate I share with Paul Scholes. Twins seperated at birth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Timotas Twins seperated at birth? Thankfully not. It would be embarrassing still having to use a highchair in your thirties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derosario23 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Daniel Well, the most games you're allowed to fit in an international break is 2. Would of been great to see though at least we could of had some good closer matches. But i have a good feeling against Spain Sutton should provide us with some better goaltending than hirsch:) and as long as Braz Gerv and most players from the gold cup are there it should be a good learning experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Keeper Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Home friendlies are what Canada needs right now. The CSA should be using them to start to market the 2007 u-20's across the country. Playing in the host cities and co marketing the team with the tournament (and game in general)would be the best way of druming up support in these early days. Mabey Canada could play a 4 team tourney where it is semi's and then either final/third place format like we did in Egypt a few years back. My picks right now would be Canada Jamaica Ivory Coast Ausralia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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