stephen smith Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I believe that our future is bright from observing some of our young Candian players with their club teams! I would like to see some discussion on the next group of Candian talent such as who they are and what we should expect from them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Well, we've never seen them play and... that's about it! These guys are our U20s for 2007... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analyst Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Stephen, check out the threads on this site about the U17 Canadian team which played in Italy a few weeks ago and the U18 team in Dallas right now. The U17 team won one game, tied two and lost one in Italy while playing against club teams comprised of U16 and U17 players. I've been told the Atalanta team in that tournament has many good young players who will be full-time pros in several years. Our U18 team in Dallas, with many of the same players, lost its first two games. I'm not sure what the opposition teams are like, whether they are U18 or older. The Lynx and a few other Ontario clubs also have youth teams in the Dallas tournament. I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that our U17 team is really good, it may be better than our U16's but then so are other countries U17's better than their U16's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 quote:Originally posted by analyst Stephen, check out the threads on this site about the U17 Canadian team which played in Italy a few weeks ago and the U18 team in Dallas right now. The U17 team won one game, tied two and lost one in Italy while playing against club teams comprised of U16 and U17 players. I've been told the Atalanta team in that tournament has many good young players who will be full-time pros in several years. Our U18 team in Dallas, with many of the same players, lost its first two games. I'm not sure what the opposition teams are like, whether they are U18 or older. The Lynx and a few other Ontario clubs also have youth teams in the Dallas tournament. I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that our U17 team is really good, it may be better than our U16's but then so are other countries U17's better than their U16's. Huh I do not Understand what you are saying. Only one player that played in Italy is in the squad in Dallas. Hope you do better at analysis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen smith Posted March 23, 2005 Author Share Posted March 23, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Observer Huh I do not Understand what you are saying. Only one player that played in Italy is in the squad in Dallas. Hope you do better at analysis Well put Observer! I heard that a U-17 player that was i believe the captain in Italy was asked but could not go because of injury.I dont know what his name is.You are also correct none of the players that were in Italy went to Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen smith Posted March 23, 2005 Author Share Posted March 23, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Daniel Well, we've never seen them play and... that's about it! These guys are our U20s for 2007... If they are our hope for 2007, they better be good or we will embarrassment to our program! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analyst Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Observer, thanks for pointing out that the U17 team which played in Italy and the U18 team in Dallas are quite different. Rechecking the CSA notes, I see the U18 team only had two players who were born in 88, whereas the whole U17 team was comprised of 88's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 None of the players on our current U17 team comprise the "core" of our 2007 U20 team. The core, Begovic, Edgar, D'Agostino, Peters, Johnson and (hopefully) DeGuzman will be the backbone of the team. I would imagine some of the 88s will be counted on in a supporting role, Bourgault (who was considered our best in Italy by the Italian press according to Alberto, and is the player on the Dallas Cup roster), Shane Lammie, AJ Gray, Robert Kerek, Zach Kaltoff from the Italy team, along with others not in Italy such as Lensky, MacLean and Napoleao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccer loco Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Ivan None of the players on our current U17 team comprise the "core" of our 2007 U20 team. The core, Begovic, Edgar, D'Agostino, Peters, Johnson and (hopefully) DeGuzman will be the backbone of the team. I would imagine some of the 88s will be counted on in a supporting role, Bourgault (who was considered our best in Italy by the Italian press according to Alberto, and is the player on the Dallas Cup roster), Shane Lammie, AJ Gray, Robert Kerek, Zach Kaltoff from the Italy team, along with others not in Italy such as Lensky, MacLean and Napoleao. Hey everyone! this a great topic.I am a frequent reader of thus forum and have observed some very interesting and informative opinions,and i must say some very mis-informed and rediculous ones also. With all due respect Ivan, you can't just throw out names and state that none of the current U-17's will comprise the core of the 2007 team.I do agree the current players on the U-20's such as Peters,Edgar and hopefully DeGuzman will be the players called on, I do believe some of the current U-17's will make a impact.I believe in complete players and of all the 88's i would say the 3 most complete players would be Kyle Oliveira,Shane lammie and Bourgalt. As for the last 3 names you mentioned (Lensky,Maclean,Napoleao) i don't think they are internayional material. Just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandon Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 "As for the last 3 names you mentioned (Lensky,Maclean,Napoleao) i don't think they are internayional material. Just my opinion" i bet Celtic would beg to differ with you in regards to Lensky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 quote:Originally posted by soccer loco Hey everyone! this a great topic.I am a frequent reader of thus forum and have observed some very interesting and informative opinions,and i must say some very mis-informed and rediculous ones also. With all due respect Ivan, you can't just throw out names and state that none of the current U-17's will comprise the core of the 2007 team.I do agree the current players on the U-20's such as Peters,Edgar and hopefully DeGuzman will be the players called on, I do believe some of the current U-17's will make a impact.I believe in complete players and of all the 88's i would say the 3 most complete players would be Kyle Oliveira,Shane lammie and Bourgalt. As for the last 3 names you mentioned (Lensky,Maclean,Napoleao) i don't think they are internayional material. Just my opinion You are correct Soccer Loco. There is the possibility of some of the 88s making an impact. I apologize for my misinformed and/or ridiculous opinion. I have never seen the last three play, but there are many others on this board who feel these players are international material. Unfortunately, my opinions are only formed by what I read and hear. However, I just today received the DVD of the U20 qualifying in Honduras from Canso (thanks again!) so in a couple of hours I will be able to say I have seen some of the 87s play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccer loco Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 quote:Originally posted by brandon "As for the last 3 names you mentioned (Lensky,Maclean,Napoleao) i don't think they are internayional material. Just my opinion" i bet Celtic would beg to differ with you in regards to Lensky Before anyeone gets the wrong idea let just say that i am not as politically correct as some,but i will always tell anyone how it is(or how i see things)I am a very strong supporter of all our National teams, but please don't insult my inteligence by presuming yhat just because a kid signs with Glasgow Cetic's Youth team does not guaranty him a spot on the National team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccer loco Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Ivan You are correct Soccer Loco. There is the possibility of some of the 88s making an impact. I apologize for my misinformed and/or ridiculous opinion. I have never seen the last three play, but there are many others on this board who feel these players are international material. Unfortunately, my opinions are only formed by what I read and hear. However, I just today received the DVD of the U20 qualifying in Honduras from Canso (thanks again!) so in a couple of hours I will be able to say I have seen some of the 87s play. Hey Ivan! No probs! Franlkly i think most people on this board form their opinions based on what everyone writes. Ivan, you will be pleasantly surprised at the talent on the U-20 team especially the 87's. This is why i think we are in very good shape come 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen smith Posted March 25, 2005 Author Share Posted March 25, 2005 For anyone who wants to know Lensky was not resigned with Blackburn because they felt he was not developing and Maclean is with Burnley's Youth team that i believe is average at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted March 26, 2005 Share Posted March 26, 2005 quote:Originally posted by stephen smith For anyone who wants to know Lensky was not resigned with Blackburn because they felt he was not developing and Maclean is with Burnley's Youth team that i believe is average at best. Lensky was not resigned by Blackburn? Do you mean Will Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen smith Posted March 26, 2005 Author Share Posted March 26, 2005 Ivan! Yes Jacob Lensky was with Blackburn Rovers since the age of either 12 or 13, the exact date i,m not sure but could get verification. Will Johnson came in the last year lensky was at Blackburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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