imported_n/a1394647443 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Rant on! I know we are all disappointed that the Portugal game isn't being broadcast. That bothers me but I can let it slide. It's only a friendly, though a highly visible one with more than the usual appeal for the Canadian market. What is truly insulting and a slap in the face are the back to back England broadcasts. The only soccer to have benefited from Sportnet's rights holdings are the U19 girls. Women's hockey doesn't get near as much of a rub as they do. I don't mind that either, but occasionally I'd like to see the men play. Why does Sportsnet have the broadcast rights if they are not going to help develop the property (like CFL on TSN). Sportsnet's calling games off monitors is hardly a way to build atmosphere let alone an audience. For all you conspiracy theorists out there listen to the NI game. Notice that after they go from the patronizing Irish commentary (loss of audio) to Craig and Gerry that the Irish commentary is heard again (later in the game) but they don't revert back to it. Actually I'm glad they didn't, that Irish guy was getting on my nerves. I know the stock answer will be the Portugal game was not picked up for budgetary reasons but if that is the case why did they get the CSA rights in the first place. Unlike hockey, friendlies are the only games that we play, there aren't yearly world championships where we can get our fill. That leaves three of four games in the Gold Cup and however many for WCQ and even then the final game was not televised. Does anybody have the original mission statement of the Voyaguers that was on the old website? Wasn't the intent to help promote Canadian soccer and increase visibility. I was on the Sportsnet soccer forum and all posters (I assume Canadian) were talking about was the Portuguese team. Check out the other Canadian soccer forums and you'll see plenty ot trolling or moronic Canada sucks posts. Boys, we can do better. Isn't it time for a little Voyageur intervention? Write Sportsnet and let them know how you feel. http://www.sportsnet.ca/features/contactus/index.jsp;jsessionid=IONMDEAFCOGE feedback@sportsnet.rogers.com I know Rogers has the technology (and the coin to correct this latest fiasco) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 I emailed Sportsnet twice. The first time I politely asked them if they would show the game. After getting the canned response that they "tried" to get the broadcast (a load of crap), I sent them a nastier email asking them not to lie to me and tell me the real reason. They still haven't responded to the second email though. Sportsnet sucks. I wish TSN would get the rights back for the national team. If TSN couldn't fit a game into their schedule, at least they would show it at 3:30am. If Sportsnet doesn't show us the Gold Cup and the WYC I will boycott anything Rogers related. Sure I'm one person and they are a giant corporation, but I'll hit them where it hurts the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_n/a1394647443 Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 quote:Sure I'm one person and they are a giant corporation, but I'll hit them where it hurts the most. I worked in TV news for many years and I know two things. One, every station has to keep a copy of its CRTC license on hand and two letters of complaint go with that license. I don't know how it works now, I've been out of the racket for ten years but I know back then more than a handful of complaint letters could get a show yanked off the air or seriously looked at. Times and morals change, especially the amount of TV crap we are now subjected to but you do have a voice. Was listening to a program the other day (sorry can't remember which one) but it was with a broadcasting exec and he said if only people knew the power of the audience. They truly do hold the balance of power. They have the power to subject programming to their will. I leave youse guys with that. As an aside, TSN has built two great properties CFL (rebuilt) and World Junior Hockey. The CMNT and National Rugby teams are just waiting to be exploited. Both are presently reasonably competitive and within a few years will probably become even more so. If the CBC didn't have the amateur sport agenda they would be perfect properties for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack If Sportsnet doesn't show us the Gold Cup and the WYC I will boycott anything Rogers related. Don't know about the Gold Cup, but they have a little counter-doodly counting down until the WYC, so I would be surprised if they didn't show it. Things are at least looking good on that front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 That's actually a good idea Joe. I know Sportsnet is mandated by the CRTC to cover amateur sports. I even recall their president being on the Fan 590 in Toronto using soccer as an example of how well they cover amateur sport. Maybe we should send some complaint letters to the CRTC stating that Sportsnet doesn't adequately broadcast amateur sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_n/a1394647443 Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack That's actually a good idea Joe. I know Sportsnet is mandated by the CRTC to cover amateur sports. I even recall their president being on the Fan 590 in Toronto using soccer as an example of how well they cover amateur sport. Maybe we should send some complaint letters to the CRTC stating that Sportsnet doesn't adequately broadcast amateur sport. I guess what I was trying to say is that all the soccer teams and players that we would want to see are deemed professional. That's why CBC wouldn't go after them. That includes all CMNT, Impact, Caps, Lynx and even CPSL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 quote:Originally posted by El Hombre Don't know about the Gold Cup, but they have a little counter-doodly counting down until the WYC, so I would be surprised if they didn't show it. Things are at least looking good on that front. I'm pretty sure they said they'd have all of Canada's games available at the WYC. And they've had the GC in 2000, 2002 and 2003 so I'm sure it'll be the same in 2005... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Joe MacCarthy I guess what I was trying to say is that all the soccer teams and players that we would want to see are deemed professional. That's why CBC wouldn't go after them. That includes all CMNT, Impact, Caps, Lynx and even CPSL. Ya, but I think that would cover the Canadian youth teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_n/a1394647443 Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 Before we get too off track, the point I am trying to get across is that this game was important enough to broadcast and it is an insult that we get two England games especially after the lone WCQ game we won was not televised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Well Ive sent sportsnet my email, we need to band together and maybe if we all send enough polite requests they will listen to us just like the Northern Ireland broadcast. There is definitely enough of us on this board to make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Mine's in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massimo Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 I poured my heart out in my e-mail...and they respond the usual generic e-mail. Come on guys keep e-mailing, don't let up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Beast Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Joe MacCarthy Before we get too off track, the point I am trying to get across is that this game was important enough to broadcast and it is an insult that we get two England games especially after the lone WCQ game we won was not televised. Come on Joe it's only a friendly,not that important.Could it be possible that sportnet saw no chance of Canada getting any kind of result out of the match, so they decided not to throw good money away on a meaningless game? When the national side starts producing results then we can b***h about the games not being covered, but since they continue to produce a bad product (like a tv series) they shouldn't be surprised if they get canned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 quote:Originally posted by FC Beast Come on Joe it's only a friendly,not that important.Could it be possible that sportnet saw no chance of Canada getting any kind of result out of the match, so they decided not to throw good money away on a meaningless game? When the national side starts producing results then we can b***h about the games not being covered, but since they continue to produce a bad product (like a tv series) they shouldn't be surprised if they get canned. Thanks for once again proving Mr. Beast that you are not a fan of Canadian soccer. You are just a master baitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_n/a1394647443 Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 quote:Originally posted by FC Beast Come on Joe it's only a friendly,not that important.Could it be possible that sportnet saw no chance of Canada getting any kind of result out of the match, so they decided not to throw good money away on a meaningless game? When the national side starts producing results then we can b***h about the games not being covered, but since they continue to produce a bad product (like a tv series) they shouldn't be surprised if they get canned. Notice you've been trolling Xtratime. Surely you don't want to kill your rep just like at BigSoccer eh? By the way, take a good look at what you do and have a long think about why you do it. It ain't healthy my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_n/a1394647443 Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 quote:Originally posted by FC Beast Come on Joe it's only a friendly,not that important.Could it be possible that sportnet saw no chance of Canada getting any kind of result out of the match, so they decided not to throw good money away on a meaningless game? When the national side starts producing results then we can b***h about the games not being covered, but since they continue to produce a bad product (like a tv series) they shouldn't be surprised if they get canned. Notice you've been trolling Xtratime. Surely you don't want to kill your rep just like at BigSoccer eh? By the way, take a good look at what you do and have a long think about why you do it. It ain't healthy my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_n/a1394647443 Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 I wonder if that would make good copy for Neil Davidson; Canada being snubbed in its own country for Eng, NI and Azerwhatever. Can anybody think of some logical, compelling remarks to send to him? Time to take a stand boys. The Voyageurs gots to be a little more proactive. There's more to supporting the team than criticizing the coach and going to a CMNT game every four years. Like I said before not airing the friendly was bad enough but being twice screwed over for England is too much for this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_n/a1394647443 Posted March 22, 2005 Author Share Posted March 22, 2005 I wonder if that would make good copy for Neil Davidson; Canada being snubbed in its own country for Eng, NI and Azerwhatever. Can anybody think of some logical, compelling remarks to send to him? Time to take a stand boys. The Voyageurs gots to be a little more proactive. There's more to supporting the team than criticizing the coach and going to a CMNT game every four years. Like I said before not airing the friendly was bad enough but being twice screwed over for England is too much for this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massimo Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 We should voice our displeasure to a canadian soccer reporter... okay so that narrows it down to three or four guys. Maybe we could get an article out of it. Anyone have any uselful e-mail addresses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Hey Joe, I emailed Sportsnet again asking about obtaining a copy of their CRTC licence and they said I should contact the CRTC myself. Should Sportsnet be more forthcoming or do I really have to contact the CRTC myself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Here's an idea that we could borrow from our curling friends... Instead of attacking Sportsnet for not televising the match, attack its sponsors. And attack CSA's sponsors as well. Massive Attack suggested boycotting Rogers products. Well, let's write them an email and tell them about it. Furthermore, emails to CIBC and Addidas stating that we are boycotting their products due to the shoddy treatment the Men's National team is receiving might not hurt either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Metro Here's an idea that we could borrow from our curling friends... Instead of attacking Sportsnet for not televising the match, attack its sponsors. And attack CSA's sponsors as well. Massive Attack suggested boycotting Rogers products. Well, let's write them an email and tell them about it. Furthermore, emails to CIBC and Addidas stating that we are boycotting their products due to the shoddy treatment the Men's National team is receiving might not hurt either. That is the right way to go. Boycott their advertisers and let them know you are doing that. It needs to be organized and we need to get the support of the general public through sympathetic media. Once it becomes a news story it will carry itself. We also need to have an official spokesperson for Voyageurs as the media will want to get some declarations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgary Boomer Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 It may sound strange to say this, but despite their triple headers on Saturdays, Sportsnet is NOT big on soccer. If it weren't for the lockout, you'd never be seeing this much soccer. If the CSA and its partners weren't sponsoring Soccer Central, I doubt it would be on the air either. Ratings also play a role here, and from what I heard...the Canada Ireland game didn't fare much better than Poker. CBC is completely useless especially since the new program aquisitions person was appointed to the job by her "friend". Soccer on TV has always been a frustrating issue, especially Canadian coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 How do sponsors like CIBC feel when they've dropped all this money to sponsor the MNT but they don't even get the chance to advertise for Canada's most high profile friendly of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Beast Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack Thanks for once again proving Mr. Beast that you are not a fan of Canadian soccer. You are just a master baitor. I stand by what i said. Canadian television is not going to cover a match of Canada's where they have no chance of pulling off a result, would i like to see it , sure, but knowning what the outcome will be would spoil it some what. Im more of a fan of Canadian soccer then you mate, i just won't say the program is great, when it is not. My question for you is, if you dare to answer it.....What has Canadian soccer done to get national coverage on TV? I await your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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