SeanKeay Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Canada Usa Costa Rica Cuba EEEEEP Schedule here (PDF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanKeay Posted March 2, 2005 Author Share Posted March 2, 2005 Also i would like to say, u god damn west bastards get the USA/Canada battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanKeay Posted March 2, 2005 Author Share Posted March 2, 2005 Also i would like to say, u god damn west bastards get the USA/Canada battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Once again, Canada gets screwed in the draw. There is no parity in these groups. Looks like T&T has been given a lifeline, yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 I would suggest we need some practice defeating Costa Rica should we wish to qualify for the WC one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanKeay Posted March 2, 2005 Author Share Posted March 2, 2005 Yah, i dont mind the group... we get a game with the states which is fun and plus we beat costa rica last GC.. its cuba who we need to worry about... that game always haunts me in my sleep.... man o man.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canso Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Love it! Revenge on the cubans and a fighting draw with the Yanks, then a QF with Mexico! History repeating itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 quote:Originally posted by youllneverwalkalone I would suggest we need some practice defeating Costa Rica should we wish to qualify for the WC one day. True, it would be nice to beat their 'A' team. Beating their 'B' team again won't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Costa Rica has never brought their B team to face us in this tourney. Note to easterners - Canada plays Cuba at Foxboro at 9pm on the 12th. We can drive up during the day and watch us gain revenge at night, then drive back the next day. Looks like Yallop was right about Colombia being the guest team, wrong about Canada being separated from the US (not sure why he thought that to begin with). Canada has a chance to gain some revenge against all three teams - I have to say that this is a fantastic group for us, even if it is difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew W Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 I love this group, not only because it is in the west, but because the matches are going to be difficult. Two of the top three teams in the region and an ever-improving Cuba are what the players need to measure themselves. I personally would rather have three quality matches and face the prospect of not moving out of the group stage than playing somewhat lower opposition. I find our side often plays up to the level of competition. To me, this is the best-case scenario. Although, T&T sure does seem to lead a charmed life don't they! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Gian-Luca Note to easterners - Canada plays Cuba at Foxboro at 9pm on the 12th. We can drive up during the day and watch us gain revenge at night, then drive back the next day. Given the circumstances surrounding the event this year, a tough group is preferable for canada. Might be a better confidence builder for the program than being in an easy group. To be honnest, I am disappointed. One game on the twelveth and it happens to be on a Tuesday against Cuba. Meanwhile, the higher profile matches are not attainable to those in our parts. Sounds like a fun trip and worthwhile game but I am not yet sure, How I can justify ( to myself ): Taking two days off, driving 11 hours, Spending on accomodation, etc to see Canada / Cuba play in a GC one year after WCQ eleimination. Were it the same for a weekend game against the USA, then it would be an easy decison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud Mouth Soup Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 T&T / Jack Warner Anyone? Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Last three results against our Group B opponents: Costa Rica 3, Canada 1 (Vancouver, Oct.2004) Cuba 2, Canada 0 (Foxboro, July 2003) US 4, Canada 0* (Ft. Lauderdale, Jan. 2003) Things need to change, on all three counts. *to be fair, this was nowhere near a full strength team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Gian-Luca Costa Rica has never brought their B team to face us in this tourney. I can think of a few starters who were not there for either of our last two meetings. Wanchope wasn't there nor was Gomez or Medford (last GC). Also, 5 of the players on Costa Rica (in our last GC meeting) did not make the World Cup team. Here is the Team we last played at the Gold Cup: Costa Rica: 23-Ricardo González - NOT AT WC 3-Luis Marín ©; 4-Alexander Castro - NOT AT WC 5-Gilberto Martinez; 6-Wilmer López; 7-Rolando Fonseca; 10-Walter Centeno 17-Steven Bryce; 12-Leonardo González - NOT AT WC 22-Carlos Castro; 13-Daniel Vallejos; 19-Mauricio Wright; 21-Winston Parks 14-Erick Scott - NOT AT WC Álvaro Mesén; Pablo Chinchilla; Try Bennett - NOT AT WC Mauricio Solís Here is their World Cup team: 1 Erick Lonnis (Saprissa) – NOT AT GOLD CUP 18 Alvaro Mesén (Alajuelense) 23 Lester Morgan (Herediano) - NOT AT GOLD CUP 2 Jervis Drummond (Saprissa) - NOT AT GOLD CUP 3 Luis Marín (Alajuelense) 4 Mauricio Wright (Herediano) 5 Gilberto Martínez (Saprissa) 13 Daniel Vallejo (Herediano) 14 Juan Jose Rodriguez (San Carlo) - NOT AT GOLD CUP 15 Harold Wallace (Alajuelense) - NOT AT GOLD CUP 21 Pablo Chinchilla (Alajuenlense) - NOT AT GOLD CUP 22 Carlos Castro (Alajuelense) 6 Wilmer López (Alajuelense) 7 Rolando Fonseca (Saprissa) 8 Mauricio Solis (Alajuelense) 10 Wálter Centeno (Saprissa) 19 Rodrigo Cordero (Herediano) - NOT AT GOLD CUP 9 Paulo Wanchope (Manchester City) - NOT AT GOLD CUP 11 Rónald Gómez (OFI Crete) - NOT AT GOLD CUP 12 Winston Parks (Udinese) 16 Steven Bryce (Alajuelense) 17 Hernan Medford (Deportivo Saprissa) - NOT AT GOLD CUP 20 William Sunsing (New England Revolution) - NOT AT GOLD CUP Looks like a 'B' team to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurosawa1555362267 Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Yes sir I will probably be able to be in Foxboro on july 12th as I have a day off. I will also be able to be there for the quarterfinals if Canada makes it. At least we won't face Honduras in our group. That way we won't have to buy the referee to have a chance to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 When do tickets go on sale and how were they acquired last time (ticketmaster)? Thanks, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 It doesn't to me, and didn't to any of the Costa Rican supporters that I spoke to on the day of the game in Foxboro. I don't think a few players missing makes a team a "B" team (we had more players missing than they did, incidentally) and in any event, some roster changes should be expected for any team over a period of a year. Some of the players at the 2002 World Cup retired internationally and wouldn't have been available in 2003, including Medford & Lonnis, so you can throw them out right away in terms of being missing players" and that's also how you can account for some of the players who were at the 2003 Gold Cup who were not at the 2002 Gold Cup - like Erick Scott, who was replacing Medford as a striker. The World Cup roster would be longer than the Gold Cup one, so there are bound to be more players from that roster not in the following year's Gold Cup, purely due to size of the roster. In any event, we shouldn't really dwell on this issue, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 I find the groups pretty well balanced so I don't know what people are complaining about. The addition of the guest teams balances things out so there are not massive differences in group strength like occured in WCQ. Group C seems the most difficult with no weak teams. Group A may be the easiest but is not dramatically so with Columbia strong, two CONCACAF middle powers and only one weaker team like in our group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Paddy [quote Looks like a 'B' team to me. That is a debatable point but IMO I am not sure that I would agree that a turnover of just five players would be indicative of an A or B team. But I will concur that performance-wise, the team we faced in Foxboro looked very different from the one we saw against canada in vancouver last fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canso Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Costa Rica with Wanchope = A team Costa Rica with no Chope = B team Any questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hottoddy7 Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 The link won't work for me could someone fill me in on the other groups.Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Free kick That is a debatable point but IMO I am not sure that I would agree that a turnover of just five players would be indicative of an A or B team. But I will concur that performance-wise, the team we faced in Foxboro looked very different from the one we saw against canada in vancouver last fall. Its not just the turn-over of 5 players, its all the players that were on the World Cup team that weren't included in the GC team at all. To my eye, when I saw that team in the last GC I was relieved that it wasn't near their best. Just watch the team that played Brazil in 2002 and tell me that the GC team was as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanKeay Posted March 2, 2005 Author Share Posted March 2, 2005 Are we a B team without radz canso? i dont think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 quote:Originally posted by canso Costa Rica with Wanchope = A team Costa Rica with no Chope = B team Any questions? I have to disagree there. There is a tendancy for many of us who do not follow these sides first hand to look to past or basic recognizablility in order to judge their talent. Going from what I read, Wanchope does not have the same overall impact that he did in past. There are many others who have impressed to the same or greater extent. For example Sunsin caught my attention in that game versus Canada. Saying that Costa Rica with Wanchope = A team and Costa Rica with no Chope = B team would be similar to saying: Canada with Peschisolido = A team Canada with no Peschisolido = B team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 This was Canada's team for that match: Canada: 22-Lars Hirschfeld; 2-Paul Fenwick; 3-Richard Hastings; 5-Jason deVos ©; 6-Jason Bent (14-Atiba Hutchinson, 68); 7-Paul Stalteri; 8-Daniel Imhof; 10-Kevin McKenna (9-Carlos Corazzin, 85); 11-Martin Nash (15-Maycoll Canizalez, 63); 12-Nick Dasovic; 16-Chris Pozniak; Head Coach Holger Osieck Subs not used – Pat Onstad; Nevio Pizzolitto; Iain Hume; Davide Xausa Wow, that team is a lot different than the one we used in the most recent WCQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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