Rupert Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Glasgow "Daily Record": CANADIAN keeper Lars Hirschfeld won't be offered a new deal at Dundee United,Ian McCall has revealed. Hirschfeld agreed a short-term contract in the summer but made only two first-team appearances. The manager said: 'I've told Lars we won't be renewing his contract. Our goalkeeping situation is something we'll be looking at over the next few weeks.But Tony Bullock is fit again, confident and playing well and is our first choice.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 No surprise here. When he had the chance, he didn't seize it and they brought back in an on loan keeper. Unfortunately, I think this turned out to be a bad move for him. I think he is going to have to drop down to 1st or 2nd division in England to get employment now. Too bad, as I think he is a good keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 No surprise here. When he had the chance, he didn't seize it and they brought back in an on loan keeper. Unfortunately, I think this turned out to be a bad move for him. I think he is going to have to drop down to 1st or 2nd division in England to get employment now. Too bad, as I think he is a good keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcl_19 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 he's still got time to make it in a higher league but as An Observer said.....1st or 2nd div in england is where he should go now.....and maybe that can get him some exposure with a bigger club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcl_19 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 he's still got time to make it in a higher league but as An Observer said.....1st or 2nd div in england is where he should go now.....and maybe that can get him some exposure with a bigger club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud Mouth Soup Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 How about we worry about Lars getting steady work in Europe for once instead of constantly finshing comments with "so he can get exposure to a bigger club"? Bigger clubs don't want someone who just happens to be at a club in a position they might need to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loud Mouth Soup Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 How about we worry about Lars getting steady work in Europe for once instead of constantly finshing comments with "so he can get exposure to a bigger club"? Bigger clubs don't want someone who just happens to be at a club in a position they might need to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Surely the Edmonton Aviators would be interested in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Surely the Edmonton Aviators would be interested in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Berton Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 "The last time I looked forward to the arrival of a man named Lars, I was 19 in this Swedish bar. The man I was looking for was about six feet tall, had hands liek a bodybuilder and tragically, had an appetite for G & T's that had to be seen to be believed. He was everything I could have asked for, including a not-too-short fingernails. Right up until the 1980s, when practically everyone could do a passable massage, I used him as a comparison for all the other Swedish massages I've ever experienced." --- Rick James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurosawa1555362267 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 What about taking Greg Sutton's place in Montreal??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natesta Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 By division 1 I am assuming you mean League 1 or Leagye 2, because he certainly will not be finding his way onto a Championship side. This team he has been released from were not a strong side, and they had a situation in which he should have been able to step in and take charge. Instead he faultered and show further proof why he should not be our starting keeper. I'm willing to give that tag to Sutton. Sorry to say it but Lars was a flash in the pan, and the fanboy attitude many on the board hold about him just baffles me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highburygooner Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 the kid just needs playing time...doesn't matter where. sitting on the bench won't help anyone. time to forget about being on the bench the odd time in the premiership, swallow some pride and turn out regularly for a smaller club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Natesta Sorry to say it but Lars was a flash in the pan, and the fanboy attitude many on the board hold about him just baffles me. Maybe to you, but after seeing him play live against Costa Rica (Gold Cup 2003) and watching him against the US (Gold Cup 2002), I wouldn't say he's a flash in the pan. He can win a few matches for your team. He has great shot-stopping and reactionary skills, and needs another opportunity to prove it. Not a great example but even Onstad rode the pine at Dundee United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natesta Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 quote:Originally posted by redhat He can win a few matches for your team. He can also lose them, and his kicking skills are plain aweful. You're citing two instances, that happen to stick out in your mind, he does not come with a consistant effort, quit living in the past. I believe that Lars should be battling for the back-up spot right now, certainly not being considered for the starting job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Natesta He can also lose them, and his kicking skills are plain aweful. You're citing two instances, that happen to stick out in your mind, he does not come with a consistant effort, quit living in the past. I believe that Lars should be battling for the back-up spot right now, certainly not being considered for the starting job. As much as I agree with your assertion that he should go after a back up job, I find some offense in your "quit living in the past" remark. I've seen Lars play well in the recent past and am convinced he can actually play. If he screwed up in the Scottish games that you may have seen (have you?), that is just being human, and it's too bad he did not rise to the occasion. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 As far as I recall, Lars only played in a part of one game as injury replacement, one cup game and one league game for Dundee U. He played well in the Cup game and in the one league game he played he was at fault for the first goal and afterwards the opposition scored a number of goals that were due to poor defending according to posters on the DU fan forum. His replacement in nets also had a large number of goals scored against him in his first couple of games as did the injured keeper before he played so DU's problems seem to be greater than just keeper. I can't comment on what he looked like in practice but certainly 1.5 league games are not much to go on in assessing his abilities especially when he hasn't played a lot of first string matches recently. Maybe Dundee United is having such a bad year with relegation danger that they didn't want to risk playing him again after one bad game. Remember he had a successful loan to Gillingham and probably would have stuck if not recalled due to injury. If he didn't have some potential a Premiership side would never have signed him. I agree he has to go to whatever level he can that will give him a strong chance to start and try to move up from there. I also think that there should be an open competition for the starters job between him, Sutton, Stamatapoulis and a few other guys. Hirschfeld should not be written off yet though and Sutton so far has only managed to show that he is a top A-league level goalie which Lars has already accomplished so he should not be handed the job outright either. We have a number of goalies with potential none of whom have proved their ability at a high level yet. Until that time there is no strong favourite for the job and each should get their chance and hopefully a couple of them will get the chance to improve upon their professional credentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think that Lars has ever played in the A-League, he was playing in the PDL so he proved that he's a very good PDL keeper.... We'll see in january if something good happen to Sutton in England. As far as who should start in goal, I agree with Grizzly we need to give a chance to Sutton, Lars, Stama and others to see who will start in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Lars most definitely played for the late, lamented Calgary Storm in the A-League. We saw the Lynx put four past him in 2002, IIRC. Blair quote:Originally posted by loyola Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think that Lars has ever played in the A-League, he was playing in the PDL so he proved that he's a very good PDL keeper.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnipeg Fury Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 No suprise that Lars was let go. I am in the camp that says Lars should not be gifted our starting position. He played a couple of decent games a few years ago, but has not been consistent. Lars needs to sort out his career. In the meantime, Kenny or Sutton should be considered #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and White Army Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 Lars also played for Vancouver Whitecaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Winnipeg Fury In the meantime, Kenny or Sutton should be considered #1. Why? What has either done to justify being considered #1? Feel free to add Lars into that question as well. At this point, since Pat Onstad was our #1 (rightfully or wrongfully) and he is retired, on what basis should anyone be considered #1. For winning a title in the A-League? For leading a Swedish 2nd Division team into the 3rd Division? Or for riding the pine in Dundee? I'd have taken any of the three over Onstad 6 months ago, which marginally more comfort with Lars. But frankly, there is not a strong case for any of the three to be considered #1. I'd rather see them fight it out on the pitch and someone earn the number 1 on the basis of their play for the Nats rather than their club status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desigol Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 He'll get a spot. Don't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanKeay Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 Dont worry, Acording to calculations, Lars will be number 1, it seeems like we like dundee utd rejects as our starting keepers. Heck they turn out to be mls allstars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massimo Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Kurosawa What about taking Greg Sutton's place in Montreal??? I get a feeling that Andrew Olivieri will get his chance to prove himself. but if Lars doesn't find a club by the time the USL div 1 season starts, it would be a good place for him to re-establish himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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