runner Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 See he has left Pompey for Southampton. He will now be literally a "hated" figure in Portsmouth. This got me thinking about the differences between UK fans and fans of North American sports franchises, in the UK fans hate what they deem as treachourous moves, i.e going to the arch rivals. Remember the abuse Sol Campbell got when he moved from Spurs to Arsenal, now Rednapp will face the music from Portsmouth fans because he is now manager of their rivals Southampton....can anyone think of any occasions where similar moves in Canada or the US have stirred up such emotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HamiltonSteelers Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Think of the the Canadiens trading Roy to Colorado. Regardless of what was being offered, Roy would never have been traded to Quebec. That's the closest I can think of, but even then, it likely would've been an afterthought. Fans around the world of soccer strike me as more intelligent about their clubs rather than our system. You bleed Porstmouth Blue and Liverpool Red (etc.) and they care what the club does, how it spends its money, and demands certain expectations would be met. If the Maple Leafs were a British football club, not only would the fans be pissed that with all this money they've made over the last 10 years and not a single hint of success, but they would probably start a riot for overcharging for their games. Premium price for a less-than-premium side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktci Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Although there was one stop in between, the closest example I can think of is Roger Clemens signing with the Yankees. He was, to paraphrase the Sports Guy, on his way to becoming one of the pantheon of Boston sports legends (Orr, Bird, Yaz, etc). He then joined the hated Yankees and basically called out Boston in Fenway Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Harry Redknapp=judas and then some....... A hated figure is an understatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Why make this sound unique to UK fans? It's a global thing in soccer. Remember Luis Figo? As for coaches, a recent example in Italy is Fabio Capello leaving Roma for Juventus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amacpher Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 quote:Originally posted by marktci Although there was one stop in between, the closest example I can think of is Roger Clemens signing with the Yankees. He was, to paraphrase the Sports Guy, on his way to becoming one of the pantheon of Boston sports legends (Orr, Bird, Yaz, etc). He then joined the hated Yankees and basically called out Boston in Fenway Park. Yeah, but how much hatred has he stirred-up in Boston since leaving? Not much, and i think that is "runner" 's point. It's certainly nothing compared to Barcelona's hatred towards Luis Figo. Remember when Clemens received a standing ovation when he played for T.O. and shut-down the Red Sox one day at Fenway Park? That's comparable to Henry going to Chelsea and then Arsenal fans giving him a standing-ovation after he gets a hat-trick against Arsenal. Not likely to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayWay Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 quote:Originally posted by HamiltonSteelers If the Maple Leafs were a British football club, not only would the fans be pissed that with all this money they've made over the last 10 years and not a single hint of success, but they would probably start a riot for overcharging for their games. Premium price for a less-than-premium side. And you don't think Leaf are pissed off? Part of the problem (if you want to call it that), at least in Hockey, is that rivarlies aren't based so much on historical ties and fueds as they are on short-term grudges based on individual events. Whereas in Europe rivalries usually flow from the fans and are adopted by the players on the pitch, in Hockey, rivalries typically start due to a conflict between the players, and then it's the fans who pick up on it; case in point, Detroit and Colorodo. Because of this there's not as much opportunity for these types of "treacherous" moves to take place. I figure there's still the formula for it between Montreal and Boston and Toronto and Ottawa. Those two rivalries are two of the few remaining that actually flow from the fans. Toronto and Montreal has become an afterthought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 quote:Originally posted by JayWay I figure there's still the formula for it between Montreal and Boston and Toronto and Ottawa. Those two rivalries are two of the few remaining that actually flow from the fans. Toronto and Montreal has become an afterthought. In Montréal, we hate the Leafs, we always beat the Bruins and kinda like the Senators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadiankick97 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Toronto and Ottawa has become a big one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Who the hell lets their coach leave in the middle of the season if they aren't firing him for poor performance? That's just retarded. This is unheard of anywhere else in the world (in any sport). Sometimes they do things the most f.cked up way in England (league naming being another example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaku_bert Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack Who the hell lets their coach leave in the middle of the season if they aren't firing him for poor performance? That's just retarded. This is unheard of anywhere else in the world (in any sport). Sometimes they do things the most f.cked up way in England (league naming being another example). I think Harry got ticked at Pompey because they brought a director of football in partway through the year. Would seem like a bit of a demotion to Redknapp so he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runner Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 Fairy tale stuff, Pompey draw Southhampton next round of the FA Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 quote:Originally posted by HamiltonSteelers If the Maple Leafs were a British football club, ........ Premium price for a less-than-premium side. That applies to the entire NHL in my opinion. I will shed no tears if the NHL never returns as it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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