red card Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 for those of you who get OMNI1, they just showed part 1 of 2 series outlining history of the soccer in North America. And unlike other things that purport to talk about North America but only mention the US, this program includes Canada. Has interviews with Colin Jose, George Gross and Bobby Iarusci. This program started from the beginning to the end of NASL. So, next Sunday's show should cover from then to now. The main theme of the program was that the downfall of soccer in North America is its perception of being an ethnic sport even though its being around since the inception of both countries. But this problem largely lies with the way soccer was organized - from the days of the early 1900s when factory soccer teams were aligned with ethnic groups to Toronto Metro Crotia winning Soccer Bowl 76 (to the embarrasment of the NASL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 This is the same program that originally aired in Italian back in May. I wrote to them and they said there would be an English broadcast at some point, but I forgot to check their Web site occasionally. Thanks for the heads-up. This is a really good program, definitely worth taping. It was made in Canada, that's why they actually have Canadian content. There will surely be a repeat of the first part during the coming week, but I don't see it listed on their site. I'll check Rogers' onscreen guide and report back later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrek Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 They should release it on DVD ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amacpher Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 They could have made this show alot better, IMO. A good 25%-30% of part 1 involved showing WWI or WWII battles for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivaldo Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Part 2 of "Soccer In The New World" in English is on OMNN1 Sunday @ 9 pm ET. I wish I'd caught part 1. I don't agree with the thesis about it being an ethnic sport, but I'll keep an open mind. I hope they re-run it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runner Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I saw part one last night. What an eye opener, I never knew soccer history was so deep in the US. It really was an ethnic sport becase the factories mills were run along ethnic lines, Italians in one mill/factory and poles, Irish in another etc etc. WW I seemed to scupper the whole deal because the league never recovered after the war, whereas Baseball flourished. Ayway a really good documentary, looking forward to part 2..wonder how many Americans watched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABuffalo786 Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 quote:Originally posted by runner What an eye opener, I never knew soccer history was so deep in the US. Oh yeah, before the depression, soccer got more attention and coverage than what was then the NFL. Fall River Marksmen, Bethlehem Steel, used to be big clubs. The depression and the "soccer war"(a conflict between two rival American leagues that helped cripple the sport for decades) really did a number on us. It's depressing to think what might've been. [] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadienfan Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 quote:Originally posted by SABuffalo786 Oh yeah, before the depression, soccer got more attention and coverage than what was then the NFL. There wasn't an NFL back then was there? Must have been an equalivent league for the time though. Also were black americans playing soccer in those leagues back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABuffalo786 Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Not completely sure, but there was a pro football league. Blacks? Not so sure. I'll say no just on the fact that no blacks were playing in intergrated leagues in other sports back then. Although I know our best player of that era was a Latin American, Billy Gonsalvez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Damn it! There won't be a repeat of the first part. I thought that OMNI is available only in southern Ontario. Rivaldo, do you get it in Saskatoon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Champ Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 If this show ever pops up on 'non-fancy lad' TV someone should give a shout! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Actually, OMNI is not fancy at all. It's an over-the-air channel, not even cable is required. However, I thought it was only available in southern Ontario, until Rivaldo showed up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivaldo Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 quote:Originally posted by DJT I thought that OMNI is available only in southern Ontario. Rivaldo, do you get it in Saskatoon? Yup. OMNI is on StarChoice satellite, probably ExpressVu too. It's not on my local cable system, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABuffalo786 Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 http://www.sover.net/~spectrum/ Very indepth archive of American soccer history, if anyone is interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Jarrek They should release it on DVD ... OMNI have just informed me that, as of June 4, 2005, it is available on DVD. http://www.omnitv.ca/harbourfront/dvd.shtml It's $29.90 including taxes and shipping. You can't order online, instead you have to print out an order form and send it in along with a cheque or money order. I have to say, OMNI's communication has been excellent. When I inquired about this a year ago they were very prompt in replying, and now they "remembered" to let me know about the DVD a year later. BTW, Rogers bashers: OMNI is owned by Rogers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desigol Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 quote:Originally posted by SABuffalo786 http://www.sover.net/~spectrum/ Very indepth archive of American soccer history, if anyone is interested. Seen it before. [] They Guy who made it is a Bear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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