CanadasBest Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 Like everyone else here i'm pretty upset with the situation that we now are facing. My thought on the team itself is that we have alot of talented players, but are definitely missing some key people, esepcially a midfield general of some sorts. Personally I think our problems lie behind the scenes. We all know about the need for a true domestic league. We all know that Canada needs to develop more players and play more games. My question to all of you is twofold 1) Can any of this blame be placed on Yallop? 2) Can any of this blame be placed on the CSA? To answer my own questions, although I am not a fan of Yallop as coach of our national team, I do beleive he deserves another crack. I do however beleive it is time for a shake up of things with the CSA. The Costa Rican home game is going to be the last chance for a long time for a demonstration of sorts against the CSA and Kevin Pipe. If we lose our next away game, I think the voyageurs should be very pro-active in calling for the resignation of the key heads of the CSA. I feel that if we don't demand changes now, we may as well write-off 2010 as well. That's my 2 cents, what do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoyleG Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 Yallop can't take much of the blame since he arrived late on the scene. As for the CSA, the only way changes would be made is if the player take a stand and actually demand change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 I'm very disappointed as well, but let's face it, most of us (myself included) wanted the CSA to pick Yallop as coach. While I think he's made a couple of mistakes (reliance on certain players who are either too old like Watson or too inexperienced like Peters and Simpson), he was thrust into a pretty bad situation with no real time to either undo the damage or have any margin for error. Yallop coudn't make the Canadian defenders better players overnight, or prevent them from getting injured. I say give Yallop the next WC campaign. Let him build the program as he sees fit. I think this needs to include more games from the WC team somehow. The Barbados friendly in January was a good idea to bring young players into the fold, as was the B team games in Vancouver. I think the club needs to do more of this, and also needs to form for a couple weeks each summer. It worked wonders for Guatamala. If they can't get everyone they want, that's okay. But get the team together, have them play 3 or 4 friendlies in various Canadian cities, and get them used to playing at this level and with each other while reminding Canadians we have a men's club. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 1) Can any of this blame be placed on Yallop? 2) Can any of this blame be placed on the CSA? Tough to say. But like usual, there are many different culprits that you can attribute the results to. Yallop ignored some decent players in favour of promising but untested and inexperienced ones. Players like Klukowski are doing very well in a respectable professional environment and is drawing interest from bigger clubs. Instead, Yallop selected players who are unattached, who haven't even played a professional game yet and/or playing in the a-league. Another thing that I don't like is that fact that on a number of occasions, he will sub on a player only to sub him off later. The CSA afterall is reposonsible for hiring Yallop and organizing friendlies. So they have a very important role to play in the area of preparation. So they have a share of the blame. But there are other culprits too. Lets not forget the players and the fans. Ultimately, the game is played on the pitch. I watched on tape last night the entire game in edmonton. What I came to realize ( and had forgotten about) was the number of quality chances that the Hondurans had in the first half. Including that sure goal that rang off the cross bar. We evened it out with some good chances that were missed by Imhof and a couple from Hume in the second half. However, despite the fact that we were robbed by the ref, we didn't exactly play a full 90 mins in control of the situation. Afterall that was two home games where we collected only one out of six points. There is little that the CSA can do about that. Then there are the fans who equally have to be blamed. We don't get sufficient numbers out in order to create an hostile environment that allows Canada to get those questionable 50-50 calls going our way. I have noted that, unlike other places around, we don't get home side officiating from the refs. Part of it may be the venues that are small but I am not so sure that the demand for tickets is there to justify larger venues than what we currently have. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many foreign supporters at the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Free kick 1) Can any of this blame be placed on Yallop? 2) Can any of this blame be placed on the CSA? Tough to say. But like usual, there are many different culprits that you can attribute the results to. Yallop ignored some decent players in favour of promising but untested and inexperienced ones. Players like Klukowski are doing very well in a respectable professional environment and is drawing interest from bigger clubs. Instead, Yallop selected players who are unattached, who haven't even played a professional game yet and/or playing in the a-league. Another thing that I don't like is that fact that on a number of occasions, he will sub on a player only to sub him off later. The CSA afterall is reposonsible for hiring Yallop and organizing friendlies. So they have a very important role to play in the area of preparation. So they have a share of the blame. But there are other culprits too. Lets not forget the players and the fans. Ultimately, the game is played on the pitch. I watched on tape last night the entire game in edmonton. What I came to realize ( and had forgotten about) was the number of quality chances that the Hondurans had in the first half. Including that sure goal that rang off the cross bar. We evened it out with some good chances that were missed by Imhof and a couple from Hume in the second half. However, despite the fact that we were robbed by the ref, we didn't exactly play a full 90 mins in control of the situation. Afterall that was two home games where we collected only one out of six points. There is little that the CSA can do about that. Then there are the fans who equally have to be blamed. We don't get sufficient numbers out in order to create an hostile environment that allows Canada to get those questionable 50-50 calls going our way. I have noted that, unlike other places around, we don't get home side officiating from the refs. Part of it may be the venues that are small but I am not so sure that the demand for tickets is there to justify larger venues than what we currently have. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many foreign supporters at the games. I agree 100% of what you say. What we need is to transform ourselves from the blame game to the next steps towards the ultimate goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadasBest Posted September 10, 2004 Author Share Posted September 10, 2004 I disagree with you there. I don't think the fans are to blame. You look at the women's side. 50,000 people at Commonwealth! The woman's game is a marketable game. The CSA has done very little to make our National Men's Team marketable. Hell we never played a game in Canada for what? 4 years before the Guatemala game?? That is not the fans' fault, but the fault of a beaurocratic Canadian Soccer Association. In my opinion it's time for change at the top levels of the CSA, and if we are mathematically eliminated by October 13th; The Costa Rica game is going to be the ONLY game where we can form a protest and call for changes. How long will it be after that before we get another home game? If history repeats, it will be in 2008! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canso Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Yallop IMO failed to select the best players and got his tactics all wrong and doesn't really seem to be able to motivate them. The CSA should be blamed for the lack of prep time, the poor facilities, insulting travel arrangements, not promoting the games, for scheduling the Edmonton game to conflict with hockey and for that all white away kit that makes our guys look like sacrificial lambs being led to slaughter. The whole thing makes me wanna puke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
way2goeh Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I totally agree. It´s time to take action signed, O.J. Simpson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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