canasoccer6 Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Although the Lynx haven't had the best of years they did compete against most teams....with alot of new young players they do have a future if those players decide to stay....where im getting at is already the Lynx have sent a couple players over seas or other teams... Adrian Serioux-Millwall John Barry Nusum-U.K.(3 possible teams) Darren Baxter-MLS bound Andres Arango-Colombia Tyler Hughes-U.K.-MLS who do you think will be missed most or would have been a great future for the Lynx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontosupport Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 quote:Originally posted by canasoccer6 Although the Lynx haven't had the best of years they did compete against most teams....with alot of new young players they do have a future if those players decide to stay....where im getting at is already the Lynx have sent a couple players over seas or other teams... Adrian Serioux-Millwall John Barry Nusum-U.K.(3 possible teams) Darren Baxter-MLS bound Andres Arango-Colombia Tyler Hughes-U.K.-MLS who do you think will be missed most or would have been a great future for the Lynx Where's this info from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanKeay Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 I also would like to know where this info comes from... AND why Ali isnt on that list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Don't forget though, even Ryan Useless (aka Ryan Mucus) got UK trials. Not surprised about Baxter, though Hughes is somewhat intriguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Keay Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 quote:Originally posted by canasoccer6 Although the Lynx haven't had the best of years they did compete against most teams....with alot of new young players they do have a future if those players decide to stay....where im getting at is already the Lynx have sent a couple players over seas or other teams... Adrian Serioux-Millwall John Barry Nusum-U.K.(3 possible teams) Darren Baxter-MLS bound Andres Arango-Colombia Tyler Hughes-U.K.-MLS Ouch, sounds like a complete gutting of the squad.. well, Serioux was known about and we had the depth to survive. Losing Nusum isnt the end of the world, although he was really coming on near the end of the season. Arango stings a bit, Hughes is a surprise to me personally... not bad, but not a star either. If Baxter leaves though, thats a huge kick in the nuts, him and Ali are the stars of the team and he would be very hard to replace. I hoped he would fly under the radar for a season just cause his stats aren't standoutish. I can see him doing really well there, and I believe he'd qualify as a transitional international still. Gut instinct tells me that Salt Lake City will be where he winds up, a building block for an expansion side. Then again, fingers crossed that this poster is full of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 The team can't make the playoffs with the players they have, so what if the team is gutted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Keay Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead The team can't make the playoffs with the players they have, so what if the team is gutted. Yeah, trimming the top players from a roster is really the best way to improve a club. Losing 2 of the only 3 competent defenders at the club, our best midfielder (ever in my opinion), and a quality striker on top of the Serioux loss is good for the team. Of course though, you are totally on the pulse of the Lynx situaton though, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 The Lynx don't make the playoffs year after year, thats the only pulse of the Lynx situation I need to check. Relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Keay Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead The Lynx don't make the playoffs year after year, thats the only pulse of the Lynx situation I need to check. Relax. I must say, I expected more. You really can't do better than that? I mean, usually trash talk like that is accompanied with hideous spelling and the caps lock on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 It's hardly trash talk pointing out that Toronto fails to make the playoffs year after year with the players they have. So big deal if they lose a bunch of players. Your really can't do worse than constantly missing the playoffs with a group of players that are apparently good enough to move on in their careers. Perhaps the Lynx should go the Vancouver route. Have a bunch of players underachieve so that no one is dominant and not one player scores more that 6 goals a year, play your back up keeper most of the season, have nobody interested in any of your players, but still make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanKeay Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Or we could just play in the west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontosupport Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 quote:Originally posted by SeanKeay Or we could just play in the west Or get a stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 quote:Originally posted by SeanKeay Or we could just play in the west Yeah sure. Lots of extra travel and you'd get a harder game against Calgary and Edmonton than you'd get against Puerto Rico. You guys picked up 3 wins against PR did you not? Take a look at the standings. Bottom 3 teams in the East are far worse than the bottom 3 in the west. 47 losses combined in the east, 42 losses combined in the west. Or if you want to take the bottom 4 teams it's 60 losses for the bottom 4 teams in the east and 51 losses for the bottom 4 teams in the west. Only 3 teams in the west with a minus goals differential, 4 (including Rochester) in the east. Really there's not much difference in the difficulty of the divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canasoccer6 Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 this info is coming from sources on the team....... i really think we will need the likes of Andres Arango for the future but i want to see him progress in futbol else where and hopefully he can help the national team ...tyler hughes also has great potential Baxter should find a club in higher competition but his height will come back to haunt him as for Nusum he didnt contribute to much to the team from what i saw and like someone said trials in UK dont signify he will sign.......who is attending the game on thursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Most everyone I think. Visit us up in the south-west corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polish_LYNX_Fan Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 I'll be there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big fan Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 quote:Originally posted by canasoccer6 this info is coming from sources on the team....... i really think we will need the likes of Andres Arango for the future but i want to see him progress in futbol else where and hopefully he can help the national team ...tyler hughes also has great potential Baxter should find a club in higher competition but his height will come back to haunt him as for Nusum he didnt contribute to much to the team from what i saw I would also like to know who is giving you this info. As for the players on the team, it's obvious that some of you have never played the game at a high level. Some of you guys just go on stats. If you compare Ali and Nusum's stats you'd say that Ali had an awesome season and Nusum stunk the joint. Nusum did struggle at times but he was always giving a 100% and was always doing the little things. If you watched the games you would notice how many clear chances Ali missed throughout the season. Yeah, he does create chances for himself at times but credit needs to be given to the players who set him up. I guy like David D. is not a big stat man but if you ask any of the players how valuable he is to the team they would tell you. You have guys here that just watch who puts the ball in the net, try watching the whole game and see who sets up the plays, who swings in good ball from the wing, who defends and tackles well, and who keeps the ball out of the net. There are a number of quality players on the Lynx and I wish the one's who move on success. Some players use the Lynx as a stepping stone and that's what they should be used for at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canasoccer6 Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 I agree with you BIGFAN Nusum gave the Lynx 100% everygame and to me created most of Ali's chances... I remembered games where he would run across the field 45 yards to cut off the defender and tackle him now that is heart but as a forward his job is to score he has also had opportunities to put the ball away but just couldnt do it breakaways in edmonton open headers shots sailing way way over the bar.... but i cant complain about his determination.... and there are definitely players who deserve better recognition as was mentioned Diplacido when he did play was outstanding dont know why Wilde did not start him for the beginning of season... well this was another disappointing season for the lynx but there were saome real close games OT losses...last minute losses... player mistake losses...and the ball would just not go into the net must be very frustrating for the players could this be the Lynx Jynx....or maybe its not meant to be for Toronto...who knows maybe next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccerbeast Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Toronto needs a better management team, one willing to build a winner and put players on the national side. Of course a new stadium is needed in Toronto, the sooner the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadiankick97 Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 The Lynx just helped to put Serioux on the national side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rood Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Now with Serioux gone and four other Lynx possibly on the move. Is there any word of new players coming in, players being watched or on a wish list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayWay Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 quote:Originally posted by soccerbeast Toronto needs a better management team, one willing to build a winner and put players on the national side. Of course a new stadium is needed in Toronto, the sooner the better. Paul Stalteri, Dwayne DeRosario, Adrian Serioux, Pat Onstad. All of these players featured in the match against Guatemala. All of these players at one point played for the Toronto Lynx. The Lynx organization has been roasted for many things over the years; their team's contribution to the national cause is not one of them. Other than that, I agree. A change is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Ryan Keay [ Losing Nusum isnt the end of the world, although he was really coming on near the end of the season. Arango stings a bit, Hughes is a surprise to me personally... not bad, but not a star either. From my vantage point, I thought Nusum was one of better players who stood out this year. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that he moves to a higher level. As for Arrango, well we all want him to succeed especially considering his play against Spain in the U20 WC. But he was injured in the early part of the season and missed some games and lets not forget that the Lynx conceded the second most goals in the A-league this year ( Only Calgary conceded more). Arrango was on that defense and although the GK'ing was very average (maybe a little generous) I did not see anything from Arrango to suggest that he ready for bigger and better things at this time. Thats not to say that he was poor and maybe that will change with more playing time and maturity. But I cannot say that another season in the a-league would be bad for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Keay Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Free kick From my vantage point, I thought Nusum was one of better players who stood out this year. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that he moves to a higher level. As for Arrango, well we all want him to succeed especially considering his play against Spain in the U20 WC. But he was injured in the early part of the season and missed some games and lets not forget that the Lynx conceded the second most goals in the A-league this year ( Only Calgary conceded more). Arrango was on that defense and although the GK'ing was very average (maybe a little generous) I did not see anything from Arrango to suggest that he ready for bigger and better things at this time. Thats not to say that he was poor and maybe that will change with more playing time and maturity. But I cannot say that another season in the a-league would be bad for him. Perhaps I was a little too understated and flippant in what I said about Nusum. I definitely rate him, and think he was a big reason for Ali scoring so many goals this season. His work and link play were vital for that. Still his finishing does leave something to be desired. I'd love for him to come back, but he isn't irreplacable. Agreed that this defense needs a lot of changes.. the problem is Arango and Hughes are far from my first choices to jettison. It is going to be hard enough to fill that many defensive holes. The last thing we need is 2 additional ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 quote:Originally posted by big fan [brAs for the players on the team, it's obvious that some of you have never played the game at a high level. Some of you guys just go on stats. If you compare Ali and Nusum's stats you'd say that Ali had an awesome season and Nusum stunk the joint. Nusum did struggle at times but he was always giving a 100% and was always doing the little things. If you watched the games you would notice how many clear chances Ali missed throughout the season. Yeah, he does create chances for himself at times but credit needs to be given to the players who set him up. I guy like David D. is not a big stat man but if you ask any of the players how valuable he is to the team they would tell you. You have guys here that just watch who puts the ball in the net, try watching the whole game and see who sets up the plays, who swings in good ball from the wing, who defends and tackles well, and who keeps the ball out of the net. There are a number of quality players on the Lynx and I wish the one's who move on success. Some players use the Lynx as a stepping stone and that's what they should be used for at this time. You raise some interesting points. Unlike watching other sports like hockey wherby we watch all of the game on TV, those who follow the a-league don't see it on TV but rather on live at the stadium. I have notice that with soccer you get quite a different perspective when you watch the game on TV versus live. Watching a game live with a bunch of supporters is the funnest way to follow the game but I am not so sure anymore that it is the best way to judge individual talent and performance. furthermore, I think these things are better appreciated when your Vantage point is higher up than what we are afforded at Centennial stadium (where we are only approximately 18-25 feet higher than the pitch) and when you are not off into a corner of the stands. I am beginning to realize this recently. Look at how different players assessments are from fans who watch a certain game on the tube compared to what the fans in the stadium see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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