soccerbeast Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Fire Frank Yallop now he has no idea how to coach a football side. the pathetic play by canada is disgusting. Bye Bye Germany. voice your concerns to the CSA they hired this man[)].He must be let go if this sinking ship can be saved. Give Bruce wilson the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankiboy Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Hey Beast. I'm a Yank, so my opinion really doesn't count for anything but it seems like you are being too hard on Yallop. It's the first, seriously contested qualifier (no disrespect to Belize). Give the man a chance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante79 Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 quote:Originally posted by soccerbeast Fire Frank Yallop now he has no idea how to coach a football side. the pathetic play by canada is disgusting. Bye Bye Germany. voice your concerns to the CSA they hired this man[)].He must be let go if this sinking ship can be saved. Give Bruce wilson the job. The only thing I agree with is "bye bye Germany 2006" but Yallop should stay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballboy Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 We didn't play a good game, no doubt. But Frankie should be given the chance to right the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante79 Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Yallop is a great coach! the problem is the players who just didsnt show up tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccerbeast Posted August 19, 2004 Author Share Posted August 19, 2004 quote:Originally posted by yankiboy Hey Beast. I'm a Yank, so my opinion really doesn't count for anything but it seems like you are being too hard on Yallop. It's the first, seriously contested qualifier (no disrespect to Belize). Give the man a chance... Good to hear from a yank, but my opinion still goes, he has no major coaching experience, sorry the MLS does not count,to me anyway, we had a great manager with Holsiek, but now he's gone along with the chance we had for german 2006:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footy Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 quote:we had a great manager with Holsiek, but now he's gone along with the chance we had for german 2006 Holsiek is a old school fool nobody wants him not even his beloved Germany .... well then again there is laways FIFA they need more rejects running the mother ship ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Concacaf Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 What's so great about Osieck? that he was from Europe? that was the only thing he had going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Georgio Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 The coach deserves as much blame as the players. They were not prepared and Yallop had better wake up and demand more from his players, regardless of possible club conflict. Clubs look out for themselves and Yallop looks out for Canada, and the player makes a choice. One thing Yallop is right about is we need to keep some of these players on this side of the pond within the MLS or we will never be trully cohesive and prepared for any of our future WCQ. We will always be just doing the best with what limited time and available players we can work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 He jackassh, Germany HIRED Osieck again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokanne Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 You don't fire Yallop now especially since this is hardly his fault, you can't help if some of your best players don't show up, and the other top players play like crap. Radz, Devos that hurt, but Simpson, Pesch, Stalteri, Imhof, Jazic, weren't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 quote:Originally posted by soccerbeast Fire Frank Yallop now he has no idea how to coach a football side. the pathetic play by canada is disgusting. Bye Bye Germany. voice your concerns to the CSA they hired this man[)].He must be let go if this sinking ship can be saved. Give Bruce wilson the job. Bring back Tony Waiters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have Flag-will travel Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Osieck might be good technically and European etc...but one thing he would never do is what Frank did tonight-bring in some young guys and call up some young stars. A 17 year old hitting the field for Canada? Unheard of during Osieck's time. OK for England to put 18 year olds on the pitch, but to play for Holger you have to be over 23?? Would he have had Hargreaves on the bench because he was TOO YOUNG? And let's face it, Osieck's best accomplishment was the Gold Cup run, Craig Forrest won the Gold Cup for us not Osieck. I think he turned down Germany's offer to be Klinnsmann's assistant though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 I like Yallop's style of coaching, and I think that his attack-first philosophy is a refreshing change from what Osieck brought to the table. One loss does not a firing make: I'm standing by our coach for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcl_19 Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 I think yallop should stay.This was a terrible game, but we had injuries, and lots of them. Im not trying to make an excuse....but we can't say "fire him" under these conditions. Yea it's gonna be a hell of a tough ride ofr thr rest of the way, but we can still do it.....next game hopefully devos is all healed. imho, him and brennen were the 2 players of all the 6 or 7 injuries/suspensions we missed the most. Hume will be nice to have back but those 2 guys r key...especially when we found out that simpson just isnt ready yet. The news about peters is very promising. Somehow we need to get rid of watson.....and if deguz is hurt for the next one, replace him with stalteri. DeRo IS frustrating but i think that when radz isnt there, him and occean should pair up front. We still have 2 more home games to pick up 6 points....now, if the nats pull something out of their collective asses for 1 or 2 of the away games, we'll be good to go.....I sitll have faith.....but now im even more nervous than b 4....Just Keep on truckin'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 I agree Osieck would be the one to take the team to 2006 and Canada made a terrible mistake not keeping him. I think that there was more to it then money or contract however, now Canada rackings will drop further with Frank Yallop, he does not have the experinece, nor the players to take the team anywhere in 2006. I am almost certain after last night disgrace and performance of the coach and the players they will be out of the 2006 after Honduras no mater the line up. As far as Im concern what I saw last night was Two Mls team playing not futbul the way it shoould be played! Wake up CANADA this is WORLD CUP SOCCER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Didn't agree with Holger's firing. For whatever the reasons the timing was just horrible. Had Yallop been in right from the go he'd have had more time at this international footie thing and three more matchs under his belt to add to his learning curve. But he wasn't. We got Miller as interm. as Frankie waited for the MLS season to end. Had Frankie more time would things have been different last night? I don't know but I'll guess they might have been. Did the Guats have two real scoring chances? They got two goals anyway. Canada had two real scoring chances as I saw it and we got squat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dave Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Never mind Yallop, he is not the problem. It's time to fire Kevan Pipe. Someone's head has to roll at the CSA for scheduling this game at 3 AM London time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 The Guats had 3 real good scoring chances - they missed an easy chance to make it 3-0, though of course we also missed an empty net of our own. We clearly didn't deserve to win this game. The amount of times the team did not move into space to provide someone for the player on the ball to pass to was astounding, not to mention the amount of times we just stood around waiting to see what a player was going to do. That all comes down to lack of time together & poor preparation, and I am somewhat disturbed that Yallop sounded confident & upbeat heading into this match and this is what we got. Yallop has one more match to fix what has happened before the great myth of his "genius" becomes pernamently obliterated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Georgio Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 If Yallop continues to play Watson (who is playing in a crucial position), then yes Yallop is the problem. That was Watson's best game of any that I have seen him play in the last year and he still was not good enough to be there simply because of his lack of pace and he did not control the backfield. Craig Forrest would do better to question that decision rather then pick away at Jazic who was our best fullback last night, I think that has to do with the fact that Forrest played with Jazic very little, but he did with Watson a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Georgio Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 If Yallop continues to play Watson (who is playing in a crucial position), then yes Yallop is the problem. That was Watson's best game of any that I have seen him play in the last year and he still was not good enough to be there simply because of his lack of pace and he did not control the backfield. Craig Forrest would do better to question that decision rather then pick away at Jazic who was our best fullback last night, I think that has to do with the fact that Forrest played with Jazic very little, but he did with Watson a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natesta Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 There was nothing wrong with how Watson played, the problem was with Stalteri and Pezz. And Brennan should have been there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Georgio Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Hutch is better and Gervais would have been better too, IMO. It's the decision by the coach to continually play Watson, not necessarily Watson's play last night which was below international standard even though it was his best game for us this year (which still ain't sayin much). He is no where near able to keep up with the opposition at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natesta Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 I am no Watson fan, but he played better than the other 4 back there. Why not scream for them to be dropped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis_Rancagua Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Not only fire Yallop now, but also Kevan Pipe, and Andy Sharpe. By the way Kevan and Andy, where is the pro-league and the open cup. We need these things right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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