beachesl Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Revised as of August 18 --------------------------------------------------------------------- SCHEDULE Group A Team GP W D L GF GA + / - Pts Mali 3 1 2 0 5 3 2 5 Korea Republic 3 1 2 0 6 5 1 5 Mexico 3 1 1 1 3 3 0 4 Greece 3 0 1 2 4 7 -3 1 # Date Venue Match Result 3 11 Aug 04 20:30 Thessaloniki GRE - KOR 2:2 (0:1) 4 11 Aug 04 20:30 Volos MLI - MEX 0:0 9 14 Aug 04 20:30 Athens KOR - MEX 1:0 (1:0) 12 14 Aug 04 20:30 Thessaloniki GRE - MLI 0:2 (0:2) 19 17 Aug 04 20:30 Thessaloniki KOR - MLI 3:3 (0:2) 20 17 Aug 04 20:30 Volos GRE - MEX 2:3 (0:0) Group B Team GP W D L GF GA + / - Pts Paraguay 3 2 0 1 6 5 1 6 Italy 3 1 1 1 5 5 0 4 Ghana 3 1 1 1 4 4 0 4 Japan 3 1 0 2 6 7 -1 3 # Date Venue Match Result 7 12 Aug 04 20:30 Thessaloniki PAR - JPN 4:3 (3:1) 8 12 Aug 04 20:30 Volos GHA - ITA 2:2 (2:0) 15 15 Aug 04 20:30 Thessaloniki PAR - GHA 1:2 (0:0) 16 15 Aug 04 20:30 Volos JPN - ITA 2:3 (1:3) 21 18 Aug 04 20:30 Athens PAR - ITA 1:0 (1:0) 24 18 Aug 04 20:30 Volos JPN - GHA 1:0 (1:0) Group C Team GP W D L GF GA + / - Pts Argentina 3 3 0 0 9 0 9 9 Australia 3 1 1 1 6 3 3 4 Tunisia 3 1 1 1 4 5 -1 4 Serbia and Montenegro 3 0 0 3 3 14 -11 0 # Date Venue Match Result 1 11 Aug 04 20:30 Heraklio TUN - AUS 1:1 (0:1) 2 11 Aug 04 20:30 Patras ARG - SCG 6:0 (4:0) 10 14 Aug 04 20:30 Heraklio SCG - AUS 1:5 (0:2) 11 14 Aug 04 20:30 Patras ARG - TUN 2:0 (1:0) 17 17 Aug 04 20:30 Athens ARG - AUS 1:0 (1:0) 18 17 Aug 04 20:30 Patras SCG - TUN 2:3 (0:1) Group D Team GP W D L GF GA + / - Pts Iraq 3 2 0 1 7 4 3 6 Costa Rica 3 1 1 1 4 4 0 4 Morocco 3 1 1 1 3 3 0 4 Portugal 3 1 0 2 6 9 -3 3 # Date Venue Match Result 5 12 Aug 04 20:30 Heraklio CRC - MAR 0:0 6 12 Aug 04 20:30 Patras IRQ - POR 4:2 (2:2) 13 15 Aug 04 20:30 Athens CRC - IRQ 0:2 (0:0) 14 15 Aug 04 20:30 Heraklio MAR - POR 1:2 (0:1) 22 18 Aug 04 20:30 Heraklio CRC - POR 4:2 (0:1) 23 18 Aug 04 20:30 Patras MAR - IRQ 2:1 (0:0) Quarterfinals # Date Venue Match Result 25 21 Aug 04 18:00 Athens MALI - ITALY - 26 21 Aug 04 18:00 Heraklio IRAQ - AUSTRALIA - 27 21 Aug 04 21:00 Patras ARGENTINA - COSTA RICA - 28 21 Aug 04 21:00 Thessaloniki PARAGUAY-SOUTH KOREA Semifinals # Date Venue Match Result 29 24 Aug 04 18:00 Athens W25-W27 - MALI/ITALY -ARGENTINA/CRA 30 24 Aug 04 21:00 Thessaloniki W26-W28 -IRAQ/AUSTRALIA - PARAGUAY/SOUTHKOREA Bronze Medal Match # Date Venue Match Result 31 27 Aug 04 20:30 Thessaloniki L29-L30 - Gold Medal Match # Date Venue Match Result 32 28 Aug 04 10:00 Athens W29-W30 - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachesl Posted July 20, 2004 Author Share Posted July 20, 2004 RULES The Regulations for the Olympic tournaments (Mens and Womens) http://www.fifa.com/documents/tourn...c/Olympia_e.pdf My highlights: 1. For Mens, 18-Player Rosters for entire tournament in Greece. Three of these may be overagers (born before Jan 1 / 1981), who were not allowed to compete in the qualifiers. A minumum of two of these must be goalkeepers. All of the roster may sit on the bench and be substitutes (3 per match allowed). the rosters must be submitted to FIFA by July 21. 2. The women have similiar roster rules, but no age limits at all. 3. The teams may also name 4 Alternate Players, who are not to be on the bench. They may only be activated for the roster upon proof of incapacitating injury or force majeure (deaths, serious reasons permitting absences, etc.), and after a hearing in which all parties may make submissions. 4. Tiebreakers for End of Group Stages: 1. Total Group Match Points 2. Total Group Goal Difference 3. Total Group Goals Scored 4. If still equal, then Match Points between tied teams 5. Goal Difference Between Tied Teams 6. goals scored between tied teams 7. Fair play quotient (yellow and red card acculmulation) 8. If still equal, and the tied teams play in the final match of Group play together, after regulation time, the tie shall be determined by Penalty Kicks at the end of that match 9. Lots 5. Acculmulation of Cards The Competition Regualtions are silent on this, so the FIFA Disciplinary Code applies: The cards do not carry-over from the qualifying matches to Greece (Art. 36), because they are separate cpmpetitions. However, the cards from the Group stages in Greece will carry over to the playoff rounds, unless the Disciplinary committee for the tournament makes a decision otherwise ( I am not aware of whether they have). 6. Extra Time Extra time is the new FIFA standard of a full 30 minutes, followed by penalty kicks if still tied after 30 minutes. Therefore, no more "goldens goals". The only exception is the women's bronze medal match, which will only be penalty kicks after regulation time because of scheduling (it is played just before the women's final as a apart of a doubleheader). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachesl Posted July 20, 2004 Author Share Posted July 20, 2004 Italy's Men's olympic Squad Announced Here are the 18 players + 4 alternates. Overage players labelled with a * Marco Amelia (Livorno) - goalkeeper Andrea Barzagli (Chievo) Daniele Bonera (Parma) Cesare Bovo (Roma) Giorgio Chiellini (Juventus) Daniele De Rossi (Roma) Simone Del Nero (Brescia) Marco Donadel (Sampdoria) *Matteo Ferrari (Parma) Andrea Gasbarroni (Palermo) Alberto Gilardino (Parma) Giandomenico Mesto (Reggina) Emiliano Moretti (Parma) Angelo Palombo (Sampdoria) *Ivan Pelizzoli (Roma) - goalkeeper Giampiero Pinzi (Udinese) *Andrea Pirlo (Milan) Giuseppe Sculli (Brescia) Alternates: Agliardi (Brescia) - goalkeeper Aquilani (Roma) Bianchi (Cagliari) Potenza (Inter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachesl Posted July 20, 2004 Author Share Posted July 20, 2004 Mexican Players named for Olympic camp (alternates not set off yet) (note that they are all from Mexican League) José de Jesús Corona Rodríguez Portero Atlas Cirilo Saucedo Nájera Portero León Francisco Guillermo Ochoa Magaña Portero América Francisco Javier Rodríguez Pinedo Defensa Guadalajara Aarón Galindo Rubio Defensa Cruz Azul Ismael de Jesús Rodríguez Vega Defensa Monterrey Mario Pérez Zúñiga Defensa Necaxa Jaime Durán Gómez Defensa Atlas Hugo Sánchez Guerrero Defensa Tigres Diego Alfonso Martínez Balderas </B>Defensa</B> Necaxa Gonzalo Pineda Reyes Defensa UNAM Joel Adrián Huiqui Andrade Defensa Pachuca Israel López Hernández Medio Toluca Luis Ernesto Pérez Gómez Medio Monterrey Antonio Naelson Matías Medio Toluca Ismael Iñiguez González Medio UNAM Gerardo Espinoza Ahumada Delantero Atlas Sergio Amaury Ponce Villegas Delantero Toluca Juan Pablo García Contreras Delantero Atlas Rafael Márquez Lugo Delantero Morelia Omar Bravo Tordecillas Delantero Guadalajara Alberto Medina Briceño Delantero Guadalajara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yob Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 CBC isn't showing any soccer: http://www.cbc.ca/olympics/schedules/CBCOlympicSchedule04.pdf TSN is showing soccer starting at the quarterfianals: http://www.tsn.ca/olympics/feature.asp?fid=9770 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and White Army Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Wow, why so many crap countries? Surely Canada would have felt at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachesl Posted July 22, 2004 Author Share Posted July 22, 2004 Squads have been sent in, but I haven't seen many announcemnts. Latest rumours on Forums: Craig Moore, Tim Cahill and John Aloisi Cristiano Ronaldo from ManU has been announced as one pf Portugal's U-23 players. I'd like to see the colour of Fregusons face now:D! Portugal's list: Boavista: Frechaut Belenenses: Lourenço F.C. Porto: Bosingwa, Bruno Alves, Bruno Vale, Hélder Postiga, Raul Meireles, Ricardo Costa Fulham: Boa Morte Gil Vicente: Jorge Ribeiro Manchester United: Cristiano Ronaldo Benfica: Moreira Chelsea: Tiago Sporting: Hugo Viana, Carlos Martins, Danny e Mário Sérgio Estugarda: Fernando Meira Players over 23: Boa Morte, Fernando Meira e Frechaut Reserves: Beto II, Custódio, João Paulo e Hugo Almeida ================================================================== ZURICH, Switzerland (AP) -- Manchester United's Cristiano Ronaldo will lead Portugal in the Olympic soccer tournament, along with three other players who helped the Portuguese reach the European Championship final earlier this month. The deadline to submit rosters to FIFA headquarters for both the men's and women's tournaments was Wednesday. The Olympic men's tournament is for under-23 teams, but each team is allowed three exceptions. Some senior national team players fit the age requirement, meaning several teams will feature more than three national team players. The women's competition, which will include the United States, is for the senior national teams. The U.S. men's team failed to qualify for Athens after losing to Mexico in a regional qualifying match in February. Portugal, which lost to Greece 1-0 in the Euro 2004 final, and Italy will be two of the favorites in Athens. Besides Ronaldo, Portugal will have new Chelsea midfielder Tiago Mendes, FC Porto striker Helder Postiga and Benfica goalkeeper Jose Moreira on its squad. Italy, which won the under-21 European Championship for the fifth time last month, will use AC Milan playmaker Andrea Pirlo of Italy, Parma striker Alberto Gilardino, Parma defender Matteo Ferrari and AS Roma goalkeeper Ivan Pelizzoli. Other top players include Feyenoord midfielder Shinji Ono of Japan; Valencia defender Roberto Ayala and FC Barcelona forward Javier Saviola of Argentina; and new FC Porto defender Giourkas Seitaridis of Greece. By playing in the Olympics, some European-based players will miss competitive matches with their clubs, including the opening of the English Premier League season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachesl Posted July 22, 2004 Author Share Posted July 22, 2004 Squads have been sent in, but I haven't seen many announcemnts. Latest rumours on Forums: Craig Moore, Tim Cahill and John Aloisi Cristiano Ronaldo from ManU has been announced as one pf Portugal's U-23 players. I'd like to see the colour of Fregusons face now:D! Portugal's list: Boavista: Frechaut Belenenses: Lourenço F.C. Porto: Bosingwa, Bruno Alves, Bruno Vale, Hélder Postiga, Raul Meireles, Ricardo Costa Fulham: Boa Morte Gil Vicente: Jorge Ribeiro Manchester United: Cristiano Ronaldo Benfica: Moreira Chelsea: Tiago Sporting: Hugo Viana, Carlos Martins, Danny e Mário Sérgio Estugarda: Fernando Meira Players over 23: Boa Morte, Fernando Meira e Frechaut Reserves: Beto II, Custódio, João Paulo e Hugo Almeida ================================================================== ZURICH, Switzerland (AP) -- Manchester United's Cristiano Ronaldo will lead Portugal in the Olympic soccer tournament, along with three other players who helped the Portuguese reach the European Championship final earlier this month. The deadline to submit rosters to FIFA headquarters for both the men's and women's tournaments was Wednesday. The Olympic men's tournament is for under-23 teams, but each team is allowed three exceptions. Some senior national team players fit the age requirement, meaning several teams will feature more than three national team players. The women's competition, which will include the United States, is for the senior national teams. The U.S. men's team failed to qualify for Athens after losing to Mexico in a regional qualifying match in February. Portugal, which lost to Greece 1-0 in the Euro 2004 final, and Italy will be two of the favorites in Athens. Besides Ronaldo, Portugal will have new Chelsea midfielder Tiago Mendes, FC Porto striker Helder Postiga and Benfica goalkeeper Jose Moreira on its squad. Italy, which won the under-21 European Championship for the fifth time last month, will use AC Milan playmaker Andrea Pirlo of Italy, Parma striker Alberto Gilardino, Parma defender Matteo Ferrari and AS Roma goalkeeper Ivan Pelizzoli. Other top players include Feyenoord midfielder Shinji Ono of Japan; Valencia defender Roberto Ayala and FC Barcelona forward Javier Saviola of Argentina; and new FC Porto defender Giourkas Seitaridis of Greece. By playing in the Olympics, some European-based players will miss competitive matches with their clubs, including the opening of the English Premier League season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 No bloody way Saviola should have been called, and he should decline. He is missing the entire Barcelona pre-season, will end up being like two months with Argentina, and who's paying his salary? Saviola is well-liked here, but if he doesn't react to this one the tide could turn against him. Minimum committment to your club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachesl Posted July 22, 2004 Author Share Posted July 22, 2004 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/3918155.stm Ferguson fury over Olympics Olympics squads named Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson says Cristiano Ronaldo and Gabriel Heinze should not have to play for their countries at the Olympics. Ronaldo has been called up by Portugal and Heinze by Argentina for the August tournament in Greece. "We'd have to give Ronaldo two-months off when he returns so we wouldn't have him until November. It's ridiculous," Ferguson told BBC Radio Five Live. "We're trying to get their feelings on it because we are disappointed." Ferguson added: "I just don't even think they'd be that interested after playing in Euro 2004 (Ronaldo) and the Copa America (Heinze)." United chief executive David Gill added: "We signed Heinze from 1 July and will effectively see him from September if he plays in Athens. "We pay his salary for two months, he's going to be an integral part of the team and so you have to ask is that fair? It can't be." ---------------------------------------------------------------- Question: Don't all these genuises on these super-clubs figure all this out in the equation when they sit down and figure who they want and how much they have to pay them? International duty is a fact of life in the football business, just like injuries. I for one am glad to see the clubs having to be forced to be flexible and not having their money dictate the scene. It'll be good to have to use their reserves. Clubs are more than their 11 starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. No bloody way Saviola should have been called, and he should decline. He is missing the entire Barcelona pre-season, will end up being like two months with Argentina, and who's paying his salary? Saviola is well-liked here, but if he doesn't react to this one the tide could turn against him. Minimum committment to your club. Okay, but how is that any different from some of the other players? (Ayala, Heinze) Fans of clubs who have money and aren't selling everyone under the sun to stay afloat should be happy with what they've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 quote:Originally posted by DJT Okay, but how is that any different from some of the other players? (Ayala, Heinze) Fans of clubs who have money and aren't selling everyone under the sun to stay afloat should be happy with what they've got. First off all Barça has money because it has 120,000 club members who put the money in there, it is owned by the fans and democratic elections decide on the board. It also has money because it signs players who are attractive to tv, marketing, and Asian tours. Second, since many players decide to choose between tournaments to not put overt pressure on their clubs, I feel that Saviola should reconsider. Márquez has bowed out of the Olympics, and he did the right thing. Right now Barça just got rid of Kluivert and signed Larsson, but is it reasonable to go into the league with last year's starter not having played pre-season, not adjusting to new teammates? In the last three friendlies without Larsson (who just came in after holidays) we played a youth striker up front, from the B team. Not a way to build a squad for the upcoming campaign. All I am asking for is a bit of balance. The call-up of Saviola is abusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachesl Posted July 23, 2004 Author Share Posted July 23, 2004 Ferguson's Olympic ultimatum to Heinze July 23, 2004 LONDON (AFP) - Alex Ferguson has told Argentina defender Gabriel Heinze to skip next month's Athens Olympics or never play for Manchester United. Heinze, 26, has been called up to the Argentina Under-23 squad for Athens as an over-age player following his 6.9 million pound (12.5 million dollar) move to Old Trafford from Paris St Germain. And United will also be without Cristiano Ronaldo for the first month of the English Premiership after Portugal named the winger in their Olympic squad. But Ferguson warned Heinze: "This situation could deny Gabriel Heinze a career at Manchester United. "The left-back position was his. But at the start of the season I am going to have to have someone else in there if he is at the Olympics. "He could find it difficult to get into the team. In fact, he may never play a game for Manchester United. "He has an opportunity to start a career here but that has been taken from him. "It is a different situation to Ronaldo. We saw what he could do last season. He has started his career here. Gabriel has not." Ronaldo and Heinze will miss the season opener against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge on August 15 plus three other Premiership matches. Ferguson was reportedly trying to contact Heinze, who is preparing for Sunday's Copa America final against Brazil in Peru, to try to obtain his release. "These players are going to be exhausted," he said. Ferguson fears he may be without 19-year-old Ronaldo for two months. Ronaldo has been lined up for the Olympics and immediately after that for two internationals in September. "I would have no choice but to give him two months off," Ferguson said. However, United's chances of securing the players' release are slim. The Olympic tournament is a FIFA-recognised competition meaning that a club would face severe sanctions for withdrawing a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. Second, since many players decide to choose between tournaments to not put overt pressure on their clubs, I feel that Saviola should reconsider. Márquez has bowed out of the Olympics, and he did the right thing. Right now Barça just got rid of Kluivert and signed Larsson, but is it reasonable to go into the league with last year's starter not having played pre-season, not adjusting to new teammates? In the last three friendlies without Larsson (who just came in after holidays) we played a youth striker up front, from the B team. Not a way to build a squad for the upcoming campaign. All I am asking for is a bit of balance. The call-up of Saviola is abusive.I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you. I'm really just playing devil's advocate. You make good points, but they can also be made in the case of the other players. Hence, none of them should play in the Olympics? And in that case, what is the point of the Olympic tournament if there will be so many key absentees? Another question: what if we were talking about a Canadian player? Again, I'm just raising some questions. quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. First off all Barça has money because it has 120,000 club members who put the money in there, it is owned by the fans and democratic elections decide on the board. It also has money because it signs players who are attractive to tv, marketing, and Asian tours.I think you took me too seriously. I was just wallowing over Lazio. EDIT: Getting further off topic, but since no one else will care enough to warrant a new thread, I'll just squeeze this in here: I just read about a Barcelona vs. Lazio friendly being planned for Hampden Park, Glasgow on August 12 (also Barcelona vs. Parma at Millenium Stadium, Cardiff on August 14, prior to Barça's Far East trip (Lazio are in Japan right now, coincidentally)). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachesl Posted July 28, 2004 Author Share Posted July 28, 2004 Argentina's squad publically announced today: * Arqueros(GK): Wilfredo Caballero (Boca) Germán Lux (River). * Defensores(DF): Roberto Ayala (Valencia), Nicolás Burdisso (Inter, Italia), Fabricio Coloccini (Milan), Gabriel Heinze (Mascheter United), Clemente Rodríguez (CSK, Moscú. * Mediocampistas(MF): Javier Mascherano (River Plate), Carlos Tevez (Boca Juniors), Nicolás Medina (Sunderland, Inglaterra), Cristian González (Inter, Italia), Andrés D´Alessandro (Wolfsbourg, Alemania), Luis González (River Plate), Mariano Nicolás González (Palermo, Italia). * Delanteros(FW): Javier Saviola (Barcelona, España), César Delgado (Cruz Azul, México), Luciano Figueroa (Cruz Azul, México), Mauro Rosales (Newell´s Old Boys) ...basically the same squad at the Copa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 quote:Originally posted by beachesl ...basically the same squad at the Copa! Argentina appear to be taking the Olympics quite seriously, as are Italy (which is usually the case, even though they don't care so much about the U20 WC for some reason). Argentina have never won an Olympic gold medal in soccer, and Italy haven't won since 1936. There shouldn't be any Alex Ferguson- or Jeffrey-like complaints coming from Italy about players called to the Olympics, because the start of Serie A has been postponed to September 11/12. I sort of expected this, because in 2000 it was postponed all the way until October (although with 20 teams [xx(] in Serie A this year the schedule was already going to be tricky and now it will be worse (I figure they will go well into June)). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcl_19 Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 With argintina's squad mostly the same as theone that finished 2nd in the copa america......they should be considered favourites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Time to bump this up. First day's results: Australia 1 Tunisia 1 Argentina 6 Serbia & Montenegro 0 Greece 2 South Korea 2 Mali 0 Mexico 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devioustrevor Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 That scoreline has really got to be great for the job security of the Mexican coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canso Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Looks like some real thrillers today, Italy rallying to tie Ghana 2-2 Paraguay scoring late to hold off Japan 4-3 and Irag beating Portugal 4-2! Goals galore, but not a chance of catching a match live as far as I can tell. Shame because it's a great tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoInferno Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 I'm watching Italy versus Ghana via webstreaming...tape delay of course...thanks to CBC for forcing me into watching the game at the computer...If anyone has any other webstreaming sites that'll show the games post 'em! http://www.fastweb.it/streaming/raisport.asx you may have to enter it into WMP9 manually...it did't work for me if you click directly on the link.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante79 Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 I saw a few games so far on telemundo! am impressed that there isnt much peole in the stands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Results of the second set of matches: August 14 Greece 0 Mali 2 South Korea 1 Mexico 0 Argentina 2 Tunisia 0 Serbia & Montenegro 1 Australia 5 August 15 Japan 2 Italy 3 Paraguay 1 Ghana 2 Costa Rica 0 Iraq 2 Morocco 1 Portugal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Two losses means Japan is out already- look at Iraq...wow!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante79 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 quote:Originally posted by nolando Two losses means Japan is out already- look at Iraq...wow!!! Yea I watched the game this afternoon on TELEMUNDO they r playing great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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