Massive Attack Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Fiore: Camoranesi should go Another row has broken out in the Azzurri camp after Stefano Fiore criticised Mauro Camoranesi’s decision to play for Italy. “In my opinion,” said the Lazio midfielder, “a player should think only of wearing the jersey of his own country. Italy has enough stars to cover every role and we have no need to look elsewhere.” This is not the first time that Fiore has come out to condemn Camoranesi’s decision to play for Italy, even though he was born in Argentina. The Juventus man qualifies for Giovanni Trapattoni’s squad due to Italian great grandparents and only made the choice after Argentina failed to call him for international duty. Fiore has a vested interest in this situation, as he has been pushed out of the starting eleven by Camoranesi. He was also far from impressed with suggestions Trap will give everyone a chance to shine by making massive changes for the third and final qualifying game against Bulgaria. “To play the third match when we’re already qualified,” sniped Fiore, “would be nothing short of humiliating. I am nobody’s reserve. I don’t ask for explanations, so all I can do is try to change Trapattoni’s mind.” The 29-year-old has impressed at Lazio this season, but Trap has chosen to stick with Camoranesi for tactical reasons. “I didn’t come to Portugal for a holiday,” he continued. “If I’m on the bench then I’ll be disappointed, as until I see the official team sheet I will maintain hope of being in there.” http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jun12j.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbin Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 This is actually a reverse of the Hargreaves situation in many ways. The problem here is that players resent a non-Italian starting on their team -- not that the players resent an Argentinian playing for a country that's not his own. A major difference between OH and Camoranesi is that Argentina never called Camoranesi. This reveals more about the mild European xenophobia than it does about FIFA rules. Needless to say, I don't see a starting spot on a national team as anyone's birthright. (Which makes it all the more disgraceful when a player refuses his own country's call!) Allez les Rouges, M@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettermirror Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 luis figo is saying the same thing about Deco. (he is brazilian and should not be playing for portugal. we have more than enough talent and should never field anyone who wasn't born in portugal) personally i love this rule. play for the country you were born or raised in. so in this philosophy radz would still be eligible as he moved here when he was 10. i think some 4-6 french first teamers would be ineligible in this way of thinking. lizarazu, and zidane are from algeria and henry is from martinique - there are other martinique players...desailly i believe. yes canada would be weaker, but so would a lot of other countries. usa has played a lot of foreign born players. another exception would be if you are a citizen of that country...meaning you've lived there for 5 years and succesfully applied for citizenship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachesl Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Apart from the issues, Fiore is an unprofessional jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 quote:Originally posted by bettermirror luis figo is saying the same thing about Deco. (he is brazilian and should not be playing for portugal. we have more than enough talent and should never field anyone who wasn't born in portugal) personally i love this rule. play for the country you were born or raised in. so in this philosophy radz would still be eligible as he moved here when he was 10. i think some 4-6 french first teamers would be ineligible in this way of thinking. lizarazu, and zidane are from algeria and henry is from martinique - there are other martinique players...desailly i believe. yes canada would be weaker, but so would a lot of other countries. usa has played a lot of foreign born players. another exception would be if you are a citizen of that country...meaning you've lived there for 5 years and succesfully applied for citizenship. Martinique would be stacked!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditty Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 quote:Originally posted by bettermirror luis figo is saying the same thing about Deco. (he is brazilian and should not be playing for portugal. we have more than enough talent and should never field anyone who wasn't born in portugal) personally i love this rule. play for the country you were born or raised in. so in this philosophy radz would still be eligible as he moved here when he was 10. i think some 4-6 french first teamers would be ineligible in this way of thinking. lizarazu, and zidane are from algeria and henry is from martinique - there are other martinique players...desailly i believe. yes canada would be weaker, but so would a lot of other countries. usa has played a lot of foreign born players. another exception would be if you are a citizen of that country...meaning you've lived there for 5 years and succesfully applied for citizenship. I believe Zidane is born and raised in Marseille. His father is Algerian and his mother French. Other examples on France would be Desailly, born and raised part of his life in Ghana. Thuram is also from Africa I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoInferno Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Thuram and Dacourt were both born on the caribbean island of Guadaloupe...Henry is from Martinique (or of Martiniquais heritage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadiankick97 Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Vieri was born in Australia. His brother is capped for the Australian youth team or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayWay Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 That's interesting, I had no idea Vieri was a born Australian. At what age did he move to France? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 quote:Originally posted by JayWay That's interesting, I had no idea Vieri was a born Australian. At what age did he move to France? Do you mean Italy or are you confusing Vieri and Vieira? canadiankick97 is talking about Christian Vieri. But he's wrong about him being born in Australia. Christian was born in Bologna, moved to Australia when he was three (his father went there at the end of his career to play and eventually coach soccer), then moved back to Italy as a teen to play soccer. Christian's brother is Max Vieri. He was born in Australia and was first capped a few weeks ago against Turkey in a friendly and officially in WCQ against New Zealand. Patrick Vieira was born in Senegal and moved to France when he was seven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayWay Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Ya, sorry. I often confuse the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devioustrevor Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 quote:Originally posted by CanadianSoccerFan Martinique would be stacked!!!!! ...and Martinique is a CONCACAF nation too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadiankick97 Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 quote:Originally posted by DJT Do you mean Italy or are you confusing Vieri and Vieira? canadiankick97 is talking about Christian Vieri. But he's wrong about him being born in Australia. Christian was born in Bologna, moved to Australia when he was three (his father went there at the end of his career to play and eventually coach soccer), then moved back to Italy as a teen to play soccer. Christian's brother is Max Vieri. He was born in Australia and was first capped a few weeks ago against Turkey in a friendly and officially in WCQ against New Zealand. Patrick Vieira was born in Senegal and moved to France when he was seven. My bad on that. Thanks for correcting that up DJT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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