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FT US 4, Honduras 0

HT St.Kitts & Nevis 0, Northern Ireland 0

Outside of the US, the only Concacaf successes recently are coming against Northern Ireland. Our 1-0 loss to Wales is starting to make us look like world-beaters in the region in comparison to some of our rivals for the 3rd & 4th spot. Here's to a non-demoralizing result against San Jose next week!

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quote:Originally posted by Jarrek

FT Trinidad & Tobago 0 - 3 Northern Ireland

T&T gets their asses whipped good by Northern Ireland. T&T looks really weak this time around.

And yet they will probably get the Hex easily with this flawed format we are stuck with.

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quote:Originally posted by Gian-Luca

And yet they will probably get the Hex easily with this flawed format we are stuck with.

How does that make the system flawed?? Tough groups and weak groups are part of most competitions in almost every sport! At least T&T somewhat deserved their lucky draw.

The reason the system is flawed is because the second-round results (against the country advancing with you) do NOT carry-over to the HEX. Hence, two games by each team in the HEX are redundant and many games in the second-round are completely meaningless!

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IMHO, the reason why the system is flawed (at least it was better than CONCACAF's original proposal until they changed it last October) is because:

o n e , there should be more elimination rounds for the lowest seeds, and CR, Mexico and the US should have a bye to the semi-Groups; and

t w o , the semi Groups should be seeded on four levels.

I don't like the concept of carrying points with the advancing team from the semis to the hex, because that is a different level of competition. There are possibilities and sureties of all kinds of anomalies with such a situation. There are differnent tactical situations in approaching a match with a potential hex opponent (and one would not know who that opponent would be until possibly the last match), as the goal is to get ahead of two or three teams on the basis of total points (which may make palying for a draw advantageous) or goal differential. It is an open invitation to chaos. It used to be the system in Olympic and World Championship Hockey, and often really screwed the competitions up bigtime.

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quote:Originally posted by amacpher

How does that make the system flawed?? Tough groups and weak groups are part of most competitions in almost every sport!

Not like this they aren't. And it could so easily be avoided. If they are so concerned about how the teams did 4 years ago in the semi's (which seems like ancient history now) all they had to do was ensure that two-bottom placed teams in the semi-final groups couldn't be "randomly" drawn into the same semi-final group this time, which is exactly what happened.. It's too late now of course.

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