cdr9999 Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 If any of you in this forum know of elite teams in the Ontario region that are interested in joining a new pro league or of teams wishing to form and belong to such a league please give me names and contact numbers..I have been approached by two different groups wishing to form a league with the team I am putting together in Wny..The CPSL is not the way to go. this league would be a grass roots operation with paid players making approx. the same as CPSL players but without the B.S. that seems prevelent we would love to start 2004 with at least 6-8 teams. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydog2006 Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 If you could please contact me @ adirondacklacrosse@hotmail.com i know a group who is very interested in your league thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettermirror Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 hmmmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 so your starting a new league??? Do you plain on have all the teams in Canada or both US and Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdr9999 Posted November 30, 2003 Author Share Posted November 30, 2003 Yes a new pro league---US and Canada--right now I have solid interest in one team from Canada and another from the US along with my team here in the Buffalo area--it would be like I stated above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.T. Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 Why do soccer people always fracture instead of consolidate? Why don't you join the CPSL, PDL or PSL and drive change from within? How do soccer people expect to get support (ie. fans, corporate sponsorship) if there are new leagues and teams popping up left and right? We need one plan & one vision. Until then 'professional' soccer teams will remain little toys for owners with some disposable income, playing in front of friends and family and getting by on microscopic sponsorship deals with Joe's Garage and Mama's Pizza. end of rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdr9999 Posted November 30, 2003 Author Share Posted November 30, 2003 Thank you for your reply--I will quickly answer that. The CPsl charges terribly high franchise fees for their product (the legue we are starting franchise fees would be a fraction of CPSL)-the USL even higher--we want to start a true pro league that has a salary cap, minimum field standards, sponsorship plans, reduced travel costs etc.-a league working together for the common good. After what i have seen the last couple years the CPSL is far from that! USL division of lower soccer (3rd and pdl) is just ridiculous in there approach-thats why so many teams fold--we want solid , build from the ground up pro teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 Why dont you try to change the CPSL before you try to start ANOTHER semi-pro league. L.T is right. Before you do anything talk with the poeple at the CPSL to see what you could do with them. Also who is the team in Canada that you have talk to?? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdr9999 Posted November 30, 2003 Author Share Posted November 30, 2003 As I stated above the CPSL wants a very hefty expansionn fee--that league has many, problems from what I have learned in the past week or so. A groupp of successful business men from Niaga Falls Ontario are the Canadian entry as of now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 have you thought of making a web site to let investors know what they are getting. before you do anything you should get a soild group of investors and sponsors. You also have to get players. Who would be the head of the league?? do you have any names in mined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdr9999 Posted November 30, 2003 Author Share Posted November 30, 2003 Web site will be up in a matter of 2-3 weeks, and league is owned operated by the three founding teams with All teams receving % of expansion monies and equal voting rights by all. In other words league charter guarantees no one club has any more power than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 do you have to get permission from the CSA and the US soccer before you start the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdr9999 Posted November 30, 2003 Author Share Posted November 30, 2003 I don't belive PERMISSION is what the league has to get, but they would need to register in respective countries and pay the right fees. As is with all leagues pro or am anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 cdr9999 if you do get this league start where do you want the teams to be around? also would there ever be Expansion farther into Canada or the US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdr9999 Posted November 30, 2003 Author Share Posted November 30, 2003 AS of now we would look at Onrario , Quebec, NY, Pennsylvania, ohio , Michigan and any other neighboring states--we would want trips to be less than 8 hours or so for ant team to the other. For instance THe Niagara Falls ontario team would only take 4 hours to get to Cleveland and so on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 how are you going to find investors for the other teams?? who is going to be in the head office for this league? got any names in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdr9999 Posted December 1, 2003 Author Share Posted December 1, 2003 I will post web site address here in a week or so and all you quwstions will be answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 thanks alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.T. Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 oh please - you are no better than the CPSL. Are we supposed to believe you came on here Nov 28,realized the CPSL expansion fee was too much and within 3 days contacted investors and starting planning a new league, complete with website? You obviously never contacted the CPSL and are making financial decisions based on the comments of anonymous posters on this site - real smart. If you knew anything about the CPSL you would realize that they are using the same basic model that you are - league ownership to founding members. That is one of their biggest problems and you're going down the same path. Oh, if you're looking for investors, visit www.minorsoccer.com. He's a stand-up guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettermirror Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 again,hmmmmm. (sounds like this is similar to the national lacrosse league) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdr9999 Posted December 1, 2003 Author Share Posted December 1, 2003 L.T.-I have ben working for months getting a team incorporated and delaying makiing a decision on joining the U.S.L-actually disscusions with them started almost a year ago--when myself and my investors made the step of NOT going into the USL we decided to look else where. I then started asking questions about the CPSL while all along knowing if it was not right for us that are plan was to start our own league for 2004 or 2005. Its called natural progression--it would be much easier to join a league but we are not going to join one that has the CPSL problems it seems to have/ So we have known for months that the fall back would have to be start our own leaguand that is what we have to do.--It will be a USSF Division 3 league and we have to have 8 teams to be sanctioned-we have 3 now looking for 5 more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettermirror Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 if you can say...are these 3 teams you have joined already part of a current league, or would they be brand new clubs? ussf? personally, i've never heard of it. i will research it. can you shed any light on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdr9999 Posted December 1, 2003 Author Share Posted December 1, 2003 Thats right (unites states soccer federation)--The three existing teams are new teams...to be sanctioned and allowed to play at a Division 3 level you need at least 8 teams, have a budget of more than $100,000 as well as having marketing plans in place etc...it is quite a list but it is things you should have in place and its not difficult to get in place. There are also requirements with your stadium, insurance etc...but like I stated earlier-it is all what you would want anyway..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 have you decide on a name for the league? Just to tell you Guelpg Ontario would be a great place for a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdr9999 Posted December 2, 2003 Author Share Posted December 2, 2003 Americas Soccer League------------A.S.L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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