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    • You're attempting to re-word my stance. I'm 100% on board for change. I want ali over oso, crepeau over borjan.   However, my main point is how can you say vitoria contributed 0 when he played 90 minutes. Obviously he contributed something. - a header, organization, a pass, a block. He contributed. He showed he can be on the field against a top end opponent and we can win for the first time in 30 years.  To take away every single ounce of credit towards him is just incorrect. It shows bias. If ZMG put in the exact same performance as vitoria did (which is plausible due to lack of pace), you wouldnt say he contributed 0.  At no point did I say I want to stick with vitoria. -youre manipulating my argument again which is nonsense. I will restate my point. It is astronomically incorrect to say vitoria contibuted nothing against jamaica. Give credit where credit is due, give criticism where criticism is due. (sure you can be reasonably harsh or positive but youre assesment is not just harsh, its blinded by bias). Again, if you said vitorias very beneficial for his heading and organization, but hes so slow that its time to replace him, then I would stand with you..... but be reasonable towards a guy whos given everything to our team. 
    • One side has religious, dogmatic fervour on this, mate, and it's you when your ridiculous "facts" about the Championship get challenged.  Try arguing the point you made, not calling people who disagree with you "apes" and engaging in that pulpit-style rhetoric that is really silly on a football forum.
    • Basketball is definitely still a contact sport.  Not in the way hockey or football is, but there is a lot of contact in the paint.  My tall skinny kid tried to play centre against a lot of generally big bulky dudes and they def get to use the body to gain and hold position etc.    and it isn’t gentle.   I think that permitted degree of contact, in a port that doesn’t allow outright hitting, is what leads to the subjectivity. And for the record I definitely still see players getting in the face of refs to pressure them into calls.  Maybe not the Barca mob anymore but it is still very much present.      
    • It's funny you mention contact because I see basketball as a non-contact sport (it's not my fathers basketball anymore). I feel like you're overstating the surrounding of the referees. Gone are the days when a team like Barca would surround the referees on every decision and intimidate and influence the refs to make a decision...I think we only see it now when a VAR decision is to be made, and at that point it's pretty much out of the head refs hands as they are being influenced by VAR officials.  If I'm not mistaken majority of the top professional leagues has rules against the surrounding of referees. 
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