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  • 01-28-2013, 07:03 PM
    J. Thomas Cooke
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Had a very poor start to the year, under Winter btw, so as much as it easy to thrown Mariner under the bus, Plata's underachievement was all on him.
    Duane please stop commenting on your site anonymously to defend Mariner. It's cowardly.
  • 01-25-2013, 10:17 PM
    Unregistered
    Quote Originally Posted by elmateo View Post
    My comment was directed more at the chaos of who was in control/who players had to listen to. Yes Winter had a lot to blame but with all the information we've had since, it is clear that there was significant management problems and that for a young foreign player with little english skills is going to be a very difficult situation to become a serious player.
    Language didn't seem to be a problem during the second half of his rookie season.

    I think he benefitted a lot from opposition teams doing more pressing at home and leaving gaps for him to exploit. The CCL match in Dallas in 2011 was a great example. But in 2012 he had much of his space closed down (particularly vs road MLS opponents) and he simply didn't adapt well to the much closer attention, not using his teammates effectively with passes in order to open up more space after receiving return service and then generating 1 v 1s. To me, this has much more to do with player as opposed to either Winter's tactics or Mariner's attitudes.
  • 01-25-2013, 12:13 PM
    Unregistered
    Duane,

    That is not the correct translation. The correct translation is, "JoaoPlata 10 is very close to Real Salt Lake, TODAY it is confirmed."
  • 01-25-2013, 07:45 AM
    elmateo
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Had a very poor start to the year, under Winter btw, so as much as it easy to thrown Mariner under the bus, Plata's underachievement was all on him.
    My comment was directed more at the chaos of who was in control/who players had to listen to. Yes Winter had a lot to blame but with all the information we've had since, it is clear that there was significant management problems and that for a young foreign player with little english skills is going to be a very difficult situation to become a serious player.
  • 01-25-2013, 05:58 AM
    Unregistered
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    He has one more MLS goal for Toronto than Andrew Weideman in 11 more apperences.

    Clearly worth the energy most clueless TFC fans put on him.

    He's little and (appears to) try hard though, which Toronto fans have always valued over actual talent.
    This makes absolutely no sense. He plays a totally different position bonehead.
  • 01-24-2013, 09:26 PM
    Unregistered
    Quote Originally Posted by elmateo View Post
    He was a young player that had more upsides that went under-utilized. Whether he would turn into a decent player or not is not really obvious however, but I don't think playing in Toronto with Mariner running around behind the scenes helped him develop his career. He obviously lost a work ethic from the first to the second year.
    Had a very poor start to the year, under Winter btw, so as much as it easy to thrown Mariner under the bus, Plata's underachievement was all on him.
  • 01-24-2013, 09:02 PM
    Unregistered
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Ok so if Plata is so overrated then why would such a well run and much more talented team than Toronto like Real Salt Lake want to pick him up? There is reason one the best teams over the past few years wants Joao Plata.
    So RSL has never made a bad signing?

    Plata is crap. sadly, when he finishes 2013 with 1 goal and 18 appearances before being shipped back to Ecuador you'll have long forgotten how misguided your opinion of him was.
  • 01-24-2013, 07:58 PM
    Unregistered
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    He has one more MLS goal for Toronto than Andrew Weideman in 11 more apperences.

    Clearly worth the energy most clueless TFC fans put on him.

    He's little and (appears to) try hard though, which Toronto fans have always valued over actual talent.
    Ok so if Plata is so overrated then why would such a well run and much more talented team than Toronto like Real Salt Lake want to pick him up? There is reason one the best teams over the past few years wants Joao Plata.
  • 01-24-2013, 07:23 PM
    Registrado
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    the RSL website says there is a major announcement at 2pm MDT!
    That's about their ownership change, nothing to do with Plata.
  • 01-24-2013, 06:54 PM
    Unregistered
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    If he is so bad then why would such a well run and much more talented team than Toronto want to pick him up?
    He has one more MLS goal for Toronto than Andrew Weideman in 11 more apperences.

    Clearly worth the energy most clueless TFC fans put on him.

    He's little and (appears to) try hard though, which Toronto fans have always valued over actual talent.
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